Post by noelww on Dec 6, 2014 22:36:22 GMT -5
As requested by TGCTours, I sent an email.
Dear Sir,
As requested, here is my email.
Please provide us all with relevant and undeniable proof that "devices" are being used to attain "zero axis" shots.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you are unable to provide such proof and as such, the disqualification of players you deem guilty is based on pure conjecture.
The fact is that even HB Studios cannot tell such things so just what makes you think that you can ?
Reinstate eliminated players or I will make it my mission to see your site fail due to your insistence to rule out players based on your own ill educated judgement. Unless, of course, you can provide irrefutable proof of "devices" being used to gain advantage.
This is what I got in reply.....
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
commmish@tgctours.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain tgctours.com by aspmx.l.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::1b].
The error that the other server returned was:
550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try
550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
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Subject: Devices...
From: Noel Whinyates <nwhin1@gmail.com>
To: commmish@tgctours.com
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These people have no interest in making a sound reply to a perfectly acceptable question.
Also, this previous message also proves that they have no intention of answering this question in public.....
Noel,
With all do respect, you've handled this entirely as we would hope to avoid. We have our policies, which have been publicly posted. We have our procedures to verify those policies and when we find a player that has violated our policies that player is contacted via email prior to being disqualified. You were told that if you want further explanation, to contact us via email. We ask that because we do not wish to rehash this issue publicly, call out people publicly. Not because we're trying to hide anything, but because we are trying to maintain a decorum in the forums. It has been discussed ad nauseum and our policies are final. We do not force anyone to participate, but we do ask everyone that does participate accept our policies.
Now, because we locked one thread and you just started another, I'm going to lock this one, and give you a little time off from the forum to cool down. Please email if you'd like to discuss further.
Jeff
I am still waiting to find out why TGC are arbitrarily eliminating players for reasons that they are unable to prove.
I ask the question, if TGC are so resolute about this then explaining to us all, in a public forum, should be no problem.
I am waiting........
Dear Sir,
As requested, here is my email.
Please provide us all with relevant and undeniable proof that "devices" are being used to attain "zero axis" shots.
I have no doubt whatsoever that you are unable to provide such proof and as such, the disqualification of players you deem guilty is based on pure conjecture.
The fact is that even HB Studios cannot tell such things so just what makes you think that you can ?
Reinstate eliminated players or I will make it my mission to see your site fail due to your insistence to rule out players based on your own ill educated judgement. Unless, of course, you can provide irrefutable proof of "devices" being used to gain advantage.
This is what I got in reply.....
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
commmish@tgctours.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain tgctours.com by aspmx.l.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::1b].
The error that the other server returned was:
550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try
550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
550 5.1.1 support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6596 e8si39654202qas.10 - gsmtp
----- Original message -----
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keyg==
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Message-ID: <CABz3kguiMPQr78Q8dPDvquCJocoCWsuNCyk11zHjWc2y6RWXoA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Devices...
From: Noel Whinyates <nwhin1@gmail.com>
To: commmish@tgctours.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133df08469a2d050997b7f1
These people have no interest in making a sound reply to a perfectly acceptable question.
Also, this previous message also proves that they have no intention of answering this question in public.....
Noel,
With all do respect, you've handled this entirely as we would hope to avoid. We have our policies, which have been publicly posted. We have our procedures to verify those policies and when we find a player that has violated our policies that player is contacted via email prior to being disqualified. You were told that if you want further explanation, to contact us via email. We ask that because we do not wish to rehash this issue publicly, call out people publicly. Not because we're trying to hide anything, but because we are trying to maintain a decorum in the forums. It has been discussed ad nauseum and our policies are final. We do not force anyone to participate, but we do ask everyone that does participate accept our policies.
Now, because we locked one thread and you just started another, I'm going to lock this one, and give you a little time off from the forum to cool down. Please email if you'd like to discuss further.
Jeff
I am still waiting to find out why TGC are arbitrarily eliminating players for reasons that they are unable to prove.
I ask the question, if TGC are so resolute about this then explaining to us all, in a public forum, should be no problem.
I am waiting........