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Post by phoenixjay on Apr 28, 2016 18:31:58 GMT -5
Hi, ive been working on Baltusrol for a while now and the course is looking good but as its getting made on ps4, getting pictures will be hard. Ive not said lower or upper in the title because it will be both, 36 holes created. The upper is basically ready for sculpting the bunkers and greens, i just need the hole markers to help but at the mo those 18 are set up for the lower course which i have all mapped out and have 5 holes sculpted ready for play. A thing I would like to ask those visiting this post is, what kind of greens would you prefer on a course that can host a major like the PGA? would you like the everyday type of green with no red slopes and it all blended in so you can hardly see the tiers and slopes that are part of the course or red slopes but not massive that make the green look like the description and make you want to try to hit into it and see if you can be accurate to beat the slopes? Ive seen comments on various places that some dont mind and others that might prefer the more tamer type. If i can get some time together to get sculpting, i can have the lower done in a few weeks and the upper after that by another week or so, and if i get a good idea about which type of green you would like then maybe sooner.
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Apr 28, 2016 19:24:44 GMT -5
I like a combination of aggressive slopes away from the pin locations with a chance around the pins
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Post by Royce on Apr 28, 2016 20:22:35 GMT -5
I vote real greens, make them to accurate to spec and then "soften" any which are unplayable due to TGC physics.
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Apr 28, 2016 20:26:44 GMT -5
I vote real greens, make them to accurate to spec and then "soften" any which are unplayable due to TGC physics. Agree 110%
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Post by rod81simo on Apr 28, 2016 20:55:05 GMT -5
Good luck with the remake Phoenix, as far as the greens and sculpting goes, as it's an RCR you really should try to find some detailed info on the actual courses green and try your best to translate that in game, taking liberties on the greens in an RCR isn't really the right way to go about things, an RCR should replicate the real deal, it's more than the layout makes a great RCR in game it's the way it plays, feels and translates in game that is key and the greens are a huge part of that, it's been said before that some famous holes would play totally opposite of the greensites aren't replicated, example, hole 13 at Augusta, the green cambers from left to right IRL, if CLV had taken liberties for the sake of difficulty he could have cambered it from right to left which would bring Rae's Creek into play more on the approach which in turn would be yo the difficulty but then that hole wouldn't be a rendition it would be inspired by the real thing so to speak, catch my drift? I'd say try get the greens as close as you can to the real thing if you have the info and then if your not sure if it's difficult enough or what have you then you could maybe take the liberty of exaggerating a slope here or there maybe?? I think RCRs should mimic their real life counterpart as best they can, good luck Phoenix and looking forward to it very much! mcbogga are you'd still progressing on your Baltusrol rendition?
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Post by phoenixjay on Apr 28, 2016 21:19:43 GMT -5
Good luck with the remake Phoenix, as far as the greens and sculpting goes, as it's an RCR you really should try to find some detailed info on the actual courses green and try your best to translate that in game, taking liberties on the greens in an RCR isn't really the right way to go about things, an RCR should replicate the real deal, it's more than the layout makes a great RCR in game it's the way it plays, feels and translates in game that is key and the greens are a huge part of that, it's been said before that some famous holes would play totally opposite of the greensites aren't replicated, example, hole 13 at Augusta, the green cambers from left to right IRL, if CLV had taken liberties for the sake of difficulty he could have cambered it from right to left which would bring Rae's Creek into play more on the approach which in turn would be yo the difficulty but then that hole wouldn't be a rendition it would be inspired by the real thing so to speak, catch my drift? I'd say try get the greens as close as you can to the real thing if you have the info and then if your not sure if it's difficult enough or what have you then you could maybe take the liberty of exaggerating a slope here or there maybe?? I think RCRs should mimic their real life counterpart as best they can, good luck Phoenix and looking forward to it very much! mcbogga are you'd still progressing on your Baltusrol rendition? Its ok, im not taking liberties and making the greens totally different from what they are. Theres not much info to be honest about the greens but from what i see from pictures, the pin postions from 2005 and a flyover and description which gives the direction the greens run ie right to left and back to front, and so on, im making them to those descriptions and to match what they are like in the pictures. The question about red slopes was mainly because of the descriptions mentioning that the slopes are fast in places so trying to put that in but in a way that experts like you will enjoy it and so will the newer players and not screw it up and no one able to hold a green. Ive seen rcr's that some greens have been a bit more exagerated than in real life and didnt enjoy those but it seemed you got the pga west nicely done, tough but fair and can easily look like it came from the course.
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Post by phoenixjay on May 25, 2016 8:56:02 GMT -5
I have finally after 2 or 3 months work, got baltusrol made. The Lower course is complete and fully sculpted but the upper is basically sculpted with just bunkers, greens and minor sculpting to do then that too will be ready but that will be at a later date lol.
Feel free to try it and let me know what you think of the course and the other things thats on the course.
Its called Baltusrol Beta
It was created so that TGCTours can play the PGA on Baltusrol, if those that select courses like it, let me know and i will change the beta into the thurs pin and make the other 3 for you to use.
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Post by phoenixjay on May 26, 2016 16:36:50 GMT -5
please let me know what you think
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Post by welikeitroughnc on May 26, 2016 18:43:15 GMT -5
Thinkers course for sure obvious way to the pins isnt at the flag thats for sure
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Post by phoenixjay on May 26, 2016 19:15:25 GMT -5
Thinkers course for sure obvious way to the pins isnt at the flag thats for sure yes i suppose it is the pins are as near to the spots that are indicated from the 2005 pga. I play tested these over and over from different angles and long and short shots and if you play it right, you will do well, if you are wayward or too heavy handed, prepare to be punished. though will say that the short game will be important from what i saw in testing it and making sure its playable. Im not a top player but I manged to get round it in -1 with a few bogeys, sub 100% shots will kill you lol. tillinghast and those that tweaked it afterwards have made a nice course there Just wondering, did you enjoy playing it?
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Post by nevadaballin on May 26, 2016 19:16:38 GMT -5
I have finally after 2 or 3 months work, got baltusrol made. The Lower course is complete and fully sculpted but the upper is basically sculpted with just bunkers, greens and minor sculpting to do then that too will be ready but that will be at a later date lol. Feel free to try it and let me know what you think of the course and the other things thats on the course. Its called Baltusrol Beta It was created so that TGCTours can play the PGA on Baltusrol, if those that select courses like it, let me know and i will change the beta into the thurs pin and make the other 3 for you to use. Excellent work bud, i played it last night, scored a -5 with scarpacci ghost ball (i think he was drunk as hell lol)
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Post by scarpacci on May 26, 2016 19:23:08 GMT -5
I have finally after 2 or 3 months work, got baltusrol made. The Lower course is complete and fully sculpted but the upper is basically sculpted with just bunkers, greens and minor sculpting to do then that too will be ready but that will be at a later date lol. Feel free to try it and let me know what you think of the course and the other things thats on the course. Its called Baltusrol Beta It was created so that TGCTours can play the PGA on Baltusrol, if those that select courses like it, let me know and i will change the beta into the thurs pin and make the other 3 for you to use. Excellent work bud, i played it last night, scored a -5 with scarpacci ghost ball (i think he was drunk as hell lol) LOL! I was experimenting with the hard driver setting and all aids off with the exception of green grids. Best way to play the game imo.
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Post by scarpacci on May 26, 2016 19:30:03 GMT -5
As for the course itself, I have no idea how far along you are and am not familiar with the actual course IRL so I choose not to comment. I will say I enjoyed my round! Pretty sure I streamed it too, if your into that sort of thing: link
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Post by phoenixjay on May 26, 2016 20:28:28 GMT -5
I have finally after 2 or 3 months work, got baltusrol made. The Lower course is complete and fully sculpted but the upper is basically sculpted with just bunkers, greens and minor sculpting to do then that too will be ready but that will be at a later date lol. Feel free to try it and let me know what you think of the course and the other things thats on the course. Its called Baltusrol Beta It was created so that TGCTours can play the PGA on Baltusrol, if those that select courses like it, let me know and i will change the beta into the thurs pin and make the other 3 for you to use. Excellent work bud, i played it last night, scored a -5 with scarpacci ghost ball (i think he was drunk as hell lol) Thanks nevada, its been a long road on this one lol, my first full on rcr with as much detail as i could put into it as the game would allow. Did you look around and see the clubhouse area and beyond? You have the Lower course complete and the upper with greens and bunkers to sculpt (will be done at a later date, as i was at it for months, need a break from it lol) and the clubhouse/practice areas/driving range area as well lol. I will admit i also added an extra bit thats not on the course but to give it something special, in front of the first tee you drive over the baltusrol symbol, the red golfball with wings made in flowers lol. -5 is good
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Post by phoenixjay on May 26, 2016 20:34:06 GMT -5
As for the course itself, I have no idea how far along you are and am not familiar with the actual course IRL so I choose not to comment. I will say I enjoyed my round! Pretty sure I streamed it too, if your into that sort of thing: linkThe course is basically ready, i just have this beta published to let people play and get feedback to see if its ready to be given its main name: Baltusrol Lower Thurs and sent for TGCTours acceptance lol. The course is actually like that, used the arial view to get the basic layout as close as i could on the ps4 lol then used every pic i could find to show me the bumps, bunkers etc so I could try and get it as close as i could. Glad you enjoyed it scar
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