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Post by petandi on Mar 6, 2016 11:45:11 GMT -5
Hi to All
I want to say something that bothered me while I played the Q-School of March 2016.
Not only in that tournament, but generally a problem in most of the so called hard and hardest courses.
I see a hard, Hardest course as struggling to get to the green to score birdies and eagles. Planning your shots to make it to the green with 1 shot spare.
That's my view of a Hard course.
Very high % of hard and hardest courses in game are nothing of that working to get a low score. What I get so far are reaching some par 5 with 2 shots, par 4 with your 2nd shot on the green. Just looking at distance and no worries to get to the green. Once on the green you get unrealistic slopes that prevent anyone for a good score. Check out my replays on some of the greens I recorded and safe. Chipping to the pin 1 ft to spare, then the ball roll back to where you stand. Putt a 5 ft put, missed the cup and the ball rolled for 85 ft. down the green. Then a tee shot that landed a few meters from the pin. Then the ball begin rolling to the side right off the green and over the fringe.
Now that is unrealistic.
So the courses in our game are marked Hard and Hardest because of unrealistic greens.
What I want to ask or suggest, please you guys, make us Hard and Hardest courses that let you work and think for your low totals. Not sloped greens that are unreal in Golf.
I finished my Q-School because I had to, other wise I would have bailed out on the courses like I did in most Hard courses.
I hope our admin never put me in charge to check courses, I will delete more than 50% that are loaded as Hard just for sloped greens.
Thank you for reading and check my replays if you want under (Petandi)
Bye
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Post by edi_vedder on Mar 6, 2016 19:34:43 GMT -5
So the courses in our game are marked Hard and Hardest because of unrealistic greens. As I think you're talking about the difficulty that is stated on the Course Overview page (in-game), let me tell you that this "rating" actually doesn't really tell ANYTHING about the difficulty of a course. This rating comes from what you basically set it to in the Greg Norman Course Designer, but it is not a real/viable indicator. |
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Post by petandi on Mar 7, 2016 0:56:12 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply.
What i'm trying to say. The courses are marked as Hard or Hardest, Why? it's easy to get to the green, so it's not a Hard course. It's a hard unrealistic green. That's not my idea of a hard course. But thank you for your come back, I won't get anywhere with this, I'll just avoid that unrealistic courses like I always do.
But I ask that if anyone design a course, please keep that in mind, A hard green does not make a Hard course. A hard to reach green makes it a Hard course.
Petandi
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Post by tastegw on Mar 7, 2016 3:03:15 GMT -5
There are no hard to reach greens in this game unless:
Par 3's over 250 yards
Par 4's over 530 yards
Par 5's over 700 yards
And 18 holes of that is, .... Well ....unrealistic
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Post by csugolfer60 on Mar 7, 2016 17:05:07 GMT -5
There are no hard to reach greens in this game unless: Par 3's over 250 yards Par 4's over 530 yards Par 5's over 700 yards And 18 holes of that is, .... Well ....unrealistic Challenge accepted.  jk |
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Post by Doyley on Mar 7, 2016 19:09:39 GMT -5
There are no hard to reach greens in this game unless: Par 3's over 250 yards Par 4's over 530 yards Par 5's over 700 yards And 18 holes of that is, .... Well ....unrealistic Challenge accepted. jk And in this corner, clocking in at 8743 yards, Challenge Club 2!! |
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Post by boomboom on Mar 8, 2016 18:00:57 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply. What i'm trying to say. The courses are marked as Hard or Hardest, Why? it's easy to get to the green, so it's not a Hard course. It's a hard unrealistic green. That's not my idea of a hard course. But thank you for your come back, I won't get anywhere with this, I'll just avoid that unrealistic courses like I always do. But I ask that if anyone design a course, please keep that in mind, A hard green does not make a Hard course. A hard to reach green makes it a Hard course. Petandi So let me see If I read this right, you would rather hit 3 wood into flatter greens then wedge into harder greens. |
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Post by petandi on Mar 9, 2016 9:11:33 GMT -5
That's not it.
I'm talking about the greens, no-where in the world you will get a green with so much slope that once you on the green you put a 5' put, now that's realy soft, and the ball roll for 85' after I missed the cup. What kind of slope is that.
Check out my replays on some of the greens I recorded and safe. Chipping to the pin 1 ft to spare after chip, then the ball roll back to where you stand. I Hit a shot that landed a few meters from the pin. After a second or 2 the ball begin rolling to the side right off the green and over the fringe.
So my question were, Why is it marked Hard or Hardest course. It is not a hard course, just a unrealistic green.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 9:36:49 GMT -5
That's not it. I'm talking about the greens, no-where in the world you will get a green with so much slope that once you on the green you put a 5' put, now that's realy soft, and the ball roll for 85' after I missed the cup. What kind of slope is that. Check out my replays on some of the greens I recorded and safe. Chipping to the pin 1 ft to spare after chip, then the ball roll back to where you stand. I Hit a shot that landed a few meters from the pin. After a second or 2 the ball begin rolling to the side right off the green and over the fringe. So my question were, Why is it marked Hard or Hardest course. It is not a hard course, just a unrealistic green. You are not putting correctly if you are hitting it 90 feet on a 5 foot putt or not playing proper TGCT approved courses. |
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Post by petandi on Mar 13, 2016 10:10:10 GMT -5
So you say I don't know the difference between a 5' putt and a 85' putt. lmao. You won't know the difference between a unrealistic green and a real green. So rather we end discussion. I'm also sure you didn't check any replay that I mentioned in my 1st comment. BTW it were the qualifying course of TGC tour I were playing. (if you have read my 1st post, you would have known.) The problem I mentioned were never under discussion, so why bother with any more conversations.
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Post by drivert on Mar 24, 2016 22:10:20 GMT -5
You are not right about that I play courses in real life that you can miss a four footer and end up off the green. This green for example is one that if you are on the back and miss the putt long down the hill and off the green you go.  |
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Post by boomboom on Apr 20, 2016 18:59:51 GMT -5
You cannot say a green is not realistic if you have never left your neighbourhood course, I have seen everything on a golf course.
-I have heard multi-tiered greens are not realistic, most certainly they are.
-I have heard deep bunkers are not realistic, I have seen them 40 feet deep.
-I have heard large greens, small greens are not realistic, I have seen greens all shapes and sizes.
-I have heard trees blocking is not realistic, I have seen holes where punch shot is the only play.
-I have seen trees on the green.
-I have seen needing a helicopter to the green and/or to the tee, a boat to the fairway.
-I have seen 100 yard rollouts and roll backs from greens.
-I have needed a 7 iron after missing a 4 foot putt.
People are better off saying they don't like hard, but please don't say it's not real because it's hard, because likely pretty much everything exists somewhere.
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