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Post by blackaces13 on Jan 26, 2016 19:24:46 GMT -5
I think you've got the 3i and LW reversed for the headwind. The 3i gets hit much more by the headwind in terms of absolute yards.
Fwiw I suck at cross and quartering winds too. If the quartering wind is strong enough I'll just work the ball into it and play it like a headwind.
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 26, 2016 19:42:40 GMT -5
I think you've got the 3i and LW reversed for the headwind. The 3i gets hit much more by the headwind in terms of absolute yards. Fwiw I suck at cross and quartering winds too. If the quartering wind is strong enough I'll just work the ball into it and play it like a headwind. LW would be affected more as its in the air longer. I've found a headwind that 200% for wedges works and towards the lower end 150%. What gets is say for example a 95 yard shot with 15mph headwind. Using 200% you'd get an extra 30 yards. However when adding that to 95 to make 125y you're hitting a much bigger club. Therefore in the air less and not affected as much. So you'd over shoot the green hugely. |
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 26, 2016 19:44:08 GMT -5
I think it's something I simply need to keep playing. As currently im only getting my 4 rounds a week in, which is my TGC Tourney.
Need to get playing more and more rounds to experiment I guess.
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Post by blackaces13 on Jan 26, 2016 19:49:04 GMT -5
LW is definitely not affected more and although it's counterintuitive, I don't think it's in the air longer either.
If you add 200% with the lob, or sand wedge, you will be DEEP. Trust me.
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 9:19:18 GMT -5
LW is definitely not affected more and although it's counterintuitive, I don't think it's in the air longer either. If you add 200% with the lob, or sand wedge, you will be DEEP. Trust me. I've been playing around with 200% and finding I'm getting pin high much more. I was using 150% for most shots and it might not seem much but say for instance a 10mph headwind adding 150% would be 15y as opposed to 20y. It'll still hit the green but I've always been a player to come short and any hole outs would trickle in. Thinking about it every time I've got an hole in one or holed out it tends to be the, 'oh god I've over hit it'. So for me 200% on all seems to work. Then I've noticed left to right is affected more on driver. One box around 14y as opposed to 7-wedges one box is 10y. I read this from another thread. Side wind I'm happy at 1mph for 1y Just need to get 45 degree winds both head and tail down. I've found headwind 45degree adding 150% was working last night. Just not sure how much side wind. Say 10mph 45 degree headwind. I was adding 15y on distance but sideways not too sure. Half or 3/4? Also besides all of this I've found hitting straight is vital, the straightness of backswing must make a difference too, as in real golf, out to in and in to it swing paths. How do you ensure you're straight back and through? Mark the pad, watch the pad? |
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Post by HeMan1202 on Jan 28, 2016 10:13:20 GMT -5
Your ball is not in the air longer with a LW vs. a 3 IR. (Higher does not equal longer)
If you are hitting a 3I, you are probably 210 yards or so out. If you are using a LW, you are 75 yards out. Your ball is in the air longer from 210 yards out, thus the wind affects the ball more with lower lofted clubs.
But hey, whatever works for you.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jan 28, 2016 11:25:05 GMT -5
For a Quarter-wind I take the square root of the headwind adjustment and multiply it by the wind strength. For example, a 10-MPH 45-degree quarter-wind playing left-to-right and against me: (between 4 and 5 o'clock) with a 5I from the fairway:
For Distance
5I = 181 yd
Wind: 10 MPH, 4:30 (betw 4 and 5 o'clock)
Headwind Factor: 1.8 (this varies by club)
SQRT(1.8) * 10 = 1.34 * 10 = 13.4 yd.
My 5I will carry 167.6 yards.
For Direction
1 Box DRAW + 13 MPH left-to-right wind = 0 Yds (L-R)
Wind: 10 MPH, 4:30 (betw 4 and 5 o'clock)
(10/13) / SQRT(2) = 10/13 / 1.4 = 55% of 1 box LEFT
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 12:34:23 GMT -5
Your ball is not in the air longer with a LW vs. a 3 IR. (Higher does not equal longer) If you are hitting a 3I, you are probably 210 yards or so out. If you are using a LW, you are 75 yards out. Your ball is in the air longer from 210 yards out, thus the wind affects the ball more with lower lofted clubs. But hey, whatever works for you. I mixed myself up, having being a real life golfer I should of got my wording right. I meant LW has a higher trajectory therefore gets hit by wind more. All in all the more complicated I think the harder the game becomes. I think much is down to ensuring you hit straight and pull back straight on the controller. As bring just off centre can make you miss hit by x amount of yards. Beauty of the game I guess. |
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Post by blackaces13 on Jan 28, 2016 12:41:32 GMT -5
I find it very hard to believe you are getting good results using 200% with LW or SW. I've been playing this game a while and I've simply not found this to be the case.
You are saying if you are 75 yards out, no elevation, into a 10 MPH headwind you are making a full swing with the SW (95 yard) club? That will be deep every time barring some massive backspin situation.
Can you show some clips of the wind x 2 formula working with the smallest clubs? If you'd like, I can post some clips where I use 100% (i.e. 85 yards on the aforementioned shot) and it works for me.
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 12:53:32 GMT -5
I find it very hard to believe you are getting good results using 200% with LW or SW. I've been playing this game a while and I've simply not found this to be the case. You are saying if you are 75 yards out, no elevation, into a 10 MPH headwind you are making a full swing with the SW (95 yard) club? That will be deep every time barring some massive backspin situation. Can you show some clips of the wind x 2 formula working with the smallest clubs? If you'd like, I can post some clips where I use 100% (i.e. 85 yards on the aforementioned shot) and it works for me. I've used 150% a lot of the time and only just last night went with 200%. This was in a wind of max say 5mph and pretty slow greens so the ball was pitching and stopping quickly. When I first started the game o played 100% as I've done that for a long time on the PGA games from a young age. Just I want to progress from CC-B and thought the top guys must have some rule of thumb they stick by. If you truly think 100% is the way then I'll play with that. Maybe a sliding percent? 200% at driver-3i professing to 100% at wedges I can't record any clips at the moment as my Xbox live is out. It lets me record but not share anything to my one drive |
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 12:53:44 GMT -5
I find it very hard to believe you are getting good results using 200% with LW or SW. I've been playing this game a while and I've simply not found this to be the case. You are saying if you are 75 yards out, no elevation, into a 10 MPH headwind you are making a full swing with the SW (95 yard) club? That will be deep every time barring some massive backspin situation. Can you show some clips of the wind x 2 formula working with the smallest clubs? If you'd like, I can post some clips where I use 100% (i.e. 85 yards on the aforementioned shot) and it works for me. I've used 150% a lot of the time and only just last night went with 200%. This was in a wind of max say 5mph and pretty slow greens so the ball was pitching and stopping quickly. When I first started the game o played 100% as I've done that for a long time on the PGA games from a young age. Just I want to progress from CC-B and thought the top guys must have some rule of thumb they stick by. If you truly think 100% is the way then I'll play with that. Maybe a sliding percent? 200% at driver-3i professing to 100% at wedges I can't record any clips at the moment as my Xbox live is out. It lets me record but not share anything to my one drive |
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 12:58:41 GMT -5
For a Quarter-wind I take the square root of the headwind adjustment and multiply it by the wind strength. For example, a 10-MPH 45-degree quarter-wind playing left-to-right and against me: (between 4 and 5 o'clock) with a 5I from the fairway: For Distance5I = 181 yd Wind: 10 MPH, 4:30 (betw 4 and 5 o'clock) Headwind Factor: 1.8 (this varies by club) SQRT(1.8) * 10 = 1.34 * 10 = 13.4 yd. My 5I will carry 167.6 yards. For Direction1 Box DRAW + 13 MPH left-to-right wind = 0 Yds (L-R) Wind: 10 MPH, 4:30 (betw 4 and 5 o'clock) (10/13) / SQRT(2) = 10/13 / 1.4 = 55% of 1 box LEFT Will have to have a go of this |
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Post by blackaces13 on Jan 28, 2016 13:09:22 GMT -5
I'm giving away the store a bit here, but yeah I use about 175% for the 3 or 4 iron, up to 200% with uploft on those clubs. Then I'm right around 150% with 5-9 iron. With PW, SW, LW I go with 100% for full swings (pitches are significantly less than even this). This is for headwinds, tailwinds are different.
For a long time I used 150% for the wedges. For instance, 96 out, flat, 12 MPH headwind, I would hit a PW going for 114 assuming no roll out. This would usually land past the hole and leave me a 15 footer. If you add 24 yards to that and try to hit the PW the full 120, in my experience that would be way long, off the green in many cases.
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Post by martkal44 on Jan 28, 2016 13:47:24 GMT -5
I'm giving away the store a bit here, but yeah I use about 175% for the 3 or 4 iron, up to 200% with uploft on those clubs. Then I'm right around 150% with 5-9 iron. With PW, SW, LW I go with 100% for full swings (pitches are significantly less than even this). This is for headwinds, tailwinds are different. For a long time I used 150% for the wedges. For instance, 96 out, flat, 12 MPH headwind, I would hit a PW going for 114 assuming no roll out. This would usually land past the hole and leave me a 15 footer. If you add 24 yards to that and try to hit the PW the full 120, in my experience that would be way long, off the green in many cases. Thank you for the help. Delete the comment if you don't want others to see  I see you're 20th in the world and it's nice to have somebody say how they play the game. Wind behind I'm generally fine with 75-100%. Side wind is something I think I'll learn by practicing more rounds. |
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Post by naldy89 on Jan 28, 2016 15:57:20 GMT -5
I think you've got the 3i and LW reversed for the headwind. The 3i gets hit much more by the headwind in terms of absolute yards. Fwiw I suck at cross and quartering winds too. If the quartering wind is strong enough I'll just work the ball into it and play it like a headwind. LW would be affected more as its in the air longer. I've found a headwind that 200% for wedges works and towards the lower end 150%. What gets is say for example a 95 yard shot with 15mph headwind. Using 200% you'd get an extra 30 yards. However when adding that to 95 to make 125y you're hitting a much bigger club. Therefore in the air less and not affected as much. So you'd over shoot the green hugely. The lob wedge is definitely not in the air longer than a 3i, wether you are talking about this game or in real life. |
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I see you're 20th in the world and it's nice to have somebody say how they play the game. Wind behind I'm generally fine with 75-100%. 