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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 20, 2016 19:59:19 GMT -5
Lowenberger,
You're giving up a lot if you're flopping 5-13 yarders routinely; especially when they are relatively flat, or even better, uphill.
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Post by disturbed932 on Feb 20, 2016 20:18:12 GMT -5
Disturbed, I'm assuming no backspin, right? Just a stock LW flop and then the analog thumb guess-o-meter? Correct. Again, it's all based on the first bounce and spin/roll out (for firm greens) on a flat green and no wind. Practice round is key to this. The tendency is to go long on the in between shots. My toughest shot is when it's 76-84% heavy rough with firm greens like The Dunes Setup E, front pin green running away. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 20:33:12 GMT -5
I will chip anything 10 yards and in if there isn't much slope at all.
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Post by Lowenberger on Feb 21, 2016 1:04:12 GMT -5
Lowenberger, You're giving up a lot if you're flopping 5-13 yarders routinely; especially when they are relatively flat, or even better, uphill. Yeah I might have been a bit too hasty in saying I always flop. I think it's more the last few pga events I haven't seen too many flat chips and the flop I can usually get within a couple feet and make about the same amount that I do chipping. Probably just need to practice chipping in the firm fast greens but I seem to always miss chips by a inch and end up with a 5-6 foot tricky putt. |
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Post by Harry Hates Golf on Feb 25, 2016 15:14:15 GMT -5
I've watch some of the better players in this game relentlessly. I find the difference between their game and mine is their ability to stop ANY SHOT right at the pin. I mean you couldn't throw a dart closer..on any green..any speed...any club... any distance. Almost to the point where it's sickening. How do you stop..lets say... a 20yd flop from spinning back off the green?...I don't get how they can do it. EVERY TIME. What am I missing? Or the ability to chip in over 90% of chips....what's the key?? My method if fairly simple. I do a shot of Jack Daniels, make the swing, and then start screaming at the ball to stop. Sometimes it seems to work.
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Post by Echo127 on Mar 11, 2016 16:15:32 GMT -5
I'll throw in my two cents...
I used to struggle a lot with rollout distance of different shots. There's of course the elevation/wind/club-selection factors, but the one very important factor that I wasn't putting enough emphasis on is the slope that your shot first lands on.
Basically, a chip shot that lands on a down-slope will go much, much, farther than one that lands flat or an up-slope--even if the net elevation change is all the same. Similarly for flop shots; if a flop lands on a green that's sloped back toward you, there's a good chance that that's right where the ball will end up. If it lands on a flat or downhill slope, you'll probably be OK.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Mar 12, 2016 7:34:42 GMT -5
I'll throw in my two cents... I used to struggle a lot with rollout distance of different shots. There's of course the elevation/wind/club-selection factors, but the one very important factor that I wasn't putting enough emphasis on is the slope that your shot first lands on. Basically, a chip shot that lands on a down-slope will go much, much, farther than one that lands flat or an up-slope--even if the net elevation change is all the same. Similarly for flop shots; if a flop lands on a green that's sloped back toward you, there's a good chance that that's right where the ball will end up. If it lands on a flat or downhill slope, you'll probably be OK. Flopping without lofting largely prevents a ball rolling back to your feet (if flopping on a slope towards the player) The big danger is just adjusting the loft and hitting 100% = way too much spin. |
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Post by andybarrell on Nov 6, 2016 3:45:54 GMT -5
i am pretty successful at pitching any shot that is 4 yds and up, very rarely do i flop anything and i never chip
i have practiced a load of hours and now pitch a flop wedge around the greens with distances varying from 4yds to 23 yds, these shots bounce bounce and stop, saves me at least 10 strokes each tourney.
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Post by KenTremendous on Nov 6, 2016 5:55:39 GMT -5
Just through practice I've gotten very clinical at any chip within 12 yards or so, ideally 10 yards or less thanks to the 9 iron chip. As long as the breaks between me and the pin aren't crazy i can hole out a good portion of the time and put it within a foot or two 99% of the rest.
As people say, its about practice.
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