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Post by bogeyman on Jan 30, 2016 8:32:15 GMT -5
But think about if you could always birdie every par 5 how much better your scoring will be. In a 4 round tourney with 4 par 5's, that's already -16!! Love this part of the post! Blatantly obvious but you don't realise it until it's placed in front of you! |
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Post by bassman70 on Jan 30, 2016 16:37:23 GMT -5
I used to be the guy going for it in two ALL the time...but then i started thinking like I do when I'm playing in real life...started scoring MUCH better.
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Post by Lowenberger on Jan 30, 2016 17:59:38 GMT -5
I used to be the guy going for it in two ALL the time...but then i started thinking like I do when I'm playing in real life...started scoring MUCH better. Wish I had your willpower. Usually in real life my score is shot by the time I reach a par 5 so I always just say eff it I'm going for it. Not that much different in the golf club either |
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Post by bassman70 on Jan 31, 2016 8:32:57 GMT -5
LOL! I used to do that too in real life golf, THEN I started using course management and instead of shooting 87-92, I staretd shooting MUCH better, usually 80-85, even shot a 77, and 79 twice. Same thing in this game. I remember last year my four round totals were in the -27 to -32 on PGA, middle of the pack...this year I think I've had 4 or 5 top 25's and 1 top 10 and I shoot much better. Unfortunately, everyone else is getting better too, just kidding I think it's great people are getting better. Will I ever catch the TOP guys??? I don't know? It's hard to shoot flawless golf on TGC for me, but I'll take -10 rounds every time.
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Post by digsb on Feb 1, 2016 13:46:52 GMT -5
The best responses here are the ones that mention course management...here's why...this was mentioned above as well. I play the courses on the PGA once before a tourney...just to get an idea of how scoring will be, and see if there are any risk reward holes, and check the firmness, and I also play them as fast as I can, not caring too much about score. First off the par 5's...you have to birdie ALL of them! This means stop going for the green in two!! Unless you can see you'll have a REASONABLE eagle putt from about 20-30 feet no more and with no crazy breaks. If you can't do that, then you LAY UP!!!! The magic spot is around 45 yds...WHY you ask? Because you can now pitch it and stop the ball next to the pin and ALWAYS have a birdie putt from inside 4 feet, and as you get better with that shot and really learn it, you'll be inside 1-2 feet every time...trust me! Also, on tougher courses, know when a par is a good score. Not every hole is a birdie hole. Yes, yo do have to learn how to chip and also learn how the ball reacts coming a out of a plugged lie in a bunker for example...out of a plugged bunker shot the ball will ROLL!!! A LOT!!! If you don't know these things it will hurt your score quite a bit. Again, course management is really key and you have to be able to look at the greens and what surrounds them and know where the safe spots are and learn the BAD spots you don't want to be. This isn't Tiger Woods golf, this is much more realistic. I hope this helps a bit. But think about if you could always birdie every par 5 how much better your scoring will be. In a 4 round tourney with 4 par 5's, that's already -16!! Thank you, credit where credit is due. This is one of of the best pieces of advice I have read on here. Now, if I don't get exemption this week..... |
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Post by bassman70 on Feb 2, 2016 14:39:33 GMT -5
Your welcome! I just wish I could hit the ball straight more often and make my putts that I should be making. You'll see when you start shooting -10, the TOP guys are shooting -14 or better. Doesn't seem that different, but in four rounds that's a 16 shot advantage for them. One day I'll put it all together and get a win nad hopefully you will too! Good luck out there!
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Post by disturbed932 on Feb 20, 2016 17:35:16 GMT -5
I'll chime in here. Being in the top 5 WGR for a while now, I can honestly admit I still get the yips on a 18-22 yard flop shot from the fairway.
All the tips said here are perfectly valid, but I'll add one that I personally use on practice rounds.
First bounce roll out on a flat green. Once you know how far, soft the ball reaction is, I base all the rest of my shots around the green on that neutral shot in practice
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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 20, 2016 18:02:34 GMT -5
I'll chime in here. Being in the top 5 WGR for a while now, I can honestly admit I still get the yips on a 18-22 yard flop shot from the fairway. What about the 14-17 yard flop? IMO these are the worst distances, especially if there is a tier in front of the hole preventing you from chipping. What's your standard play on the dreaded 15 yard flop? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 18:04:05 GMT -5
I use certain parts of the body to get certain distances all the way from 8-9 yards to 20ish yards. It has helped tremendously.
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Post by Lowenberger on Feb 20, 2016 18:08:46 GMT -5
I use certain parts of the body to get certain distances all the way from 8-9 yards to 20ish yards. It has helped tremendously. Yup that is what I do as well. I pretty much only do flops now and never chip. I think it was mark custard that gave me that tip in one of the spoiler threads, so I spent like an hour figuring out distances and I think the next tourney was actually the one I won! Once you get it down it really takes 2 putts out of play |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 18:11:06 GMT -5
I use certain parts of the body to get certain distances all the way from 8-9 yards to 20ish yards. It has helped tremendously. Yup that is what I do as well. I pretty much only do flops now and never chip. I think it was mark custard that gave me that tip in one of the spoiler threads, so I spent like an hour figuring out distances and I think the next tourney was actually the one I won! Once you get it down it really takes 2 putts out of play It is such a help when trying to eliminate mistakes around the greens. I have also holed way more shots from off the green by doing it. |
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Post by disturbed932 on Feb 20, 2016 18:18:54 GMT -5
I'll chime in here. Being in the top 5 WGR for a while now, I can honestly admit I still get the yips on a 18-22 yard flop shot from the fairway. What about the 14-17 yard flop? IMO these are the worst distances, especially if there is a tier in front of the hole preventing you from chipping. What's your standard play on the dreaded 15 yard flop? The backswing guess o meter. But I've gotten to the point where I've played enough rounds over and over, that I know the visual "spots" on where to stop my backswing for a 11, 13, 15, 17, etc. flop. It usually takes me 3-4 "waggles" to dial it in and I let it go. You really need to have precision with your thumb on that analog stick, and fortunately I've been able to get quite good at it in the 18 months of TGC. The 10-25 yard flops, and 60-65 yard pitch shots are a couple areas where the men are separated from the boys IMO. |
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Post by Lowenberger on Feb 20, 2016 18:20:42 GMT -5
Yup that is what I do as well. I pretty much only do flops now and never chip. I think it was mark custard that gave me that tip in one of the spoiler threads, so I spent like an hour figuring out distances and I think the next tourney was actually the one I won! Once you get it down it really takes 2 putts out of play It is such a help when trying to eliminate mistakes around the greens. I have also holed way more shots from off the green by doing it. Definitely. I'd rather have a 15 yard flop now than a 22 or 24 due to the backspin |
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Post by clayg3 on Feb 20, 2016 18:25:18 GMT -5
on any where from 12 to 16 yard flop shots I use the sand wedge 30 to 35 yard
shot move my joy stick as fast as I can back and forth it does pretty well. I don't think you can stop a chip shot like a flop shot don't go high enough. |
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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 20, 2016 19:58:13 GMT -5
Disturbed,
I'm assuming no backspin, right? Just a stock LW flop and then the analog thumb guess-o-meter?
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