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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 11:05:45 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but I have been having trouble with the Flop shot lately, particularly in the 10-14 yard range when chipping isn't an option. My swing tends to be either very short, mid range, or 100%, and something in the 3/4 range needed for this distance is badly needed. What do you recommend?
Also, on longer flop shots 28-40 yards, how do you reduce the spin? The pitch for this distance also seems to spin too much.
Thanks all!
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Post by gfoss1986 on Sept 26, 2015 11:19:50 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but I have been having trouble with the Flop shot lately, particularly in the 10-14 yard range when chipping isn't an option. My swing tends to be either very short, mid range, or 100%, and something in the 3/4 range needed for this distance is badly needed. What do you recommend? Also, on longer flop shots 28-40 yards, how do you reduce the spin? The pitch for this distance also seems to spin too much. Thanks all! Someone call for flop shot assistance? I know a guy i seem to get none or very little spin when left with a 100% swing anywhere between 30-40yds as for anything between 10 and 25 yards is all down to feel for me, I will never add loft to the flop shot for fear of the dreaded backspin, I tend to just quarter swing half swing or rarely 3/4 swing, I guess I've just practised it that much it's become second nature to know when is hard enough youll get there Dave I have absolutely no doubt, practise practise practise
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 11:27:32 GMT -5
Thanks Gary! Wow....I knew you were good at the flop, but now I'm even more impressed! Played your ghost today in the web tour and about a half dozen times I flopped from the same area as you and my ball came zipping back off the green while yours settled softly by the hole....(and a few of yours of course went in!) I'll give this a go. See you on the links!
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Post by bentfivewood on Sept 26, 2015 21:27:05 GMT -5
For the 10-15 yd range, I much prefer to go with a lw pitch at about 1/4 swing. I seem to have much better feel for those shots because it's a shorter back swing and thus less room for error. I also don't get much in the way of backspin with that shot.
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Post by jtcurrent on Oct 7, 2015 22:11:27 GMT -5
Remember to take wind, lie and your landing spot into account. Depending on variables you may get no spin even on a 30 yd flop. Look to flop to flat areas or well past the pin to account for backspin. Don't give up...it's a deadly shot. As for 15 yds it's about feel...and watch your lie. Also practice a full backswing and watch it...don't hit the ball. Now do 75%. Get the feel...just like real golf.
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Post by canthitstraight on Oct 9, 2015 1:03:09 GMT -5
What's frustrating about the flop shot is that even if you go for a 3/4 swing and get exactly 75%, it never translates directly to 75% of the 30 yard distance (22.5 yards). Probably more like 17 or 18 yards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 1:42:41 GMT -5
What's frustrating about the flop shot is that even if you go for a 3/4 swing and get exactly 75%, it never translates directly to 75% of the 30 yard distance (22.5 yards). Probably more like 17 or 18 yards. It's more like flop shot % squared = actual percentage of the full shot or something in that area. It's not a perfect science. I have gone away from lofting flop shot when its under 20 yards and just going for a % with the regular LW flop. Plugged lies and/or flop shots significantly uphill throw equations out of the window and are a lot of feel just on the math part, let alone the feel part of the actual shot if you are not going for 100%.
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Post by canthitstraight on Oct 9, 2015 1:52:52 GMT -5
What's frustrating about the flop shot is that even if you go for a 3/4 swing and get exactly 75%, it never translates directly to 75% of the 30 yard distance (22.5 yards). Probably more like 17 or 18 yards. It's more like flop shot % squared = actual percentage of the full shot or something in that area. It's not a perfect science. I have gone away from lofting flop shot when its under 20 yards and just going for a % with the regular LW flop. Plugged lies and/or flop shots significantly uphill throw equations out of the window and are a lot of feel just on the math part, let alone the feel part of the actual shot if you are not going for 100%. flop shot % squared... I like that. I'll give it a shot next time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 2:31:57 GMT -5
It's more like flop shot % squared = actual percentage of the full shot or something in that area. It's not a perfect science. I have gone away from lofting flop shot when its under 20 yards and just going for a % with the regular LW flop. Plugged lies and/or flop shots significantly uphill throw equations out of the window and are a lot of feel just on the math part, let alone the feel part of the actual shot if you are not going for 100%. flop shot % squared... I like that. I'll give it a shot next time. It's still not perfect, but it's a lot closer than going for actual %.
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Post by popojay6903 on Nov 21, 2015 15:04:22 GMT -5
Remember to take wind, lie and your landing spot into account. Depending on variables you may get no spin even on a 30 yd flop. Look to flop to flat areas or well past the pin to account for backspin. Don't give up...it's a deadly shot. As for 15 yds it's about feel...and watch your lie. Also practice a full backswing and watch it...don't hit the ball. Now do 75%. Get the feel...just like real golf. Practice swing? How the hell is this done on PS4? I didn't think it was possible and have wished for that feature since I bought the game...
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Post by popojay6903 on Nov 21, 2015 15:05:39 GMT -5
Ohhhh...you mean just practice the backswing only, no follow through....I get it now.
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Post by jtcurrent on Nov 21, 2015 15:33:01 GMT -5
Ohhhh...you mean just practice the backswing only, no follow through....I get it now. Yep...you've got it.
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Post by popojay6903 on Nov 23, 2015 1:33:33 GMT -5
I was thinking about this thread as I was playing around with the Distance/Club Calculator during my practice rounds. When it came to flopping, I tried all sorts of methods in that thread. No matter what I did, I was consistently more accurate by using feel and timing when under 30 yards. I almost always stop < 5ft from the hole and cannot even count how many times I've hit the pin. Best part of my game....cause I've practiced so much since I'm usually not on the green in regulation
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Post by inflames47 on Jan 15, 2016 3:21:24 GMT -5
My short range shots are flopped. Back swing to the golfers knees is about 5 yards, mid stomach about 10 yds, shoulder around 15. if you play with that method you can determine what back swing needed for what distance to get you close or in the cup. Works for me.
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