Straight Shooter Policy (white line) - TGCT Official Stance

[minerproblem]

Agreed. Didn't mean to offend you DLW, and I'm glad you'll be using a stock controller. Good luck in the tournaments!

[onhobobobohno]

I don't think the golf cart analogy is a good one, but let's use the anchored putter analogy. Anchored putting is by no means cheating, but the PGA tour has taken a stance that using a putter anchored to your body gives the golfer an "unfair advantage". Not sure what year, but anchored putters will be banned on the PGA Tour, they took a stance, just like TGCT took a stance on third party controllers. Just like in real life, pro golfers aren't going to stop playing golf on the tour because they can't use their belly putters, they are going to adapt and use the putters everyone on tour is required to use. So for TGCT, if people using third party controllers want to play on the tour, they will adapt and use stock XBO and PS4 like everyone else. Two Cents over.

[jwfickett]

Nov 3, 2014 20:53:23 GMT -5 onhobobobohno said:

I don't think the golf cart analogy is a good one, but let's use the anchored putter analogy. Anchored putting is by no means cheating, but the PGA tour has taken a stance that using a putter anchored to your body gives the golfer an "unfair advantage". Not sure what year, but anchored putters will be banned on the PGA Tour, they took a stance, just like TGCT took a stance on third party controllers. Just like in real life, pro golfers aren't going to stop playing golf on the tour because they can't use their belly putters, they are going to adapt and use the putters everyone on tour is required to use. So for TGCT, if people using third party controllers want to play on the tour, they will adapt and use stock XBO and PS4 like everyone else. Two Cents over.

I wish we had rep on this site. I would rep you big time for this one. Best post and /thread.

[Tim]

Agreed.. much better analogy. Thanks for posting. Nailed it.

[jarednich]

Way better than my analogy about magical drivers that never hit it crooked.

[skrec]

here's my only question and its just for clarification.. what is considered a "stock controller" for pc players? cause from my knowledge most of them are 3rd party

[clayg3]

to me a stock controller is the controller that comes with your xb1 or ps4

those are the only ones you should be using.

[Doyley]

Nov 3, 2014 22:05:07 GMT -5 skrec said:

here's my only question and its just for clarification.. what is considered a "stock controller" for pc players? cause from my knowledge most of them are 3rd party

Any controller is fine to use as long as it doesn't shoot an undisclosed number of shots perfectly straight.

[dlw1964]

This is the problem every 3rd party controller I've played with was easier to use than a stock.
I have a problem with pc players allowed to use 3rd party controllers as long as they don't hit too many straight.
What's too many??
The lines are starting to get blurring.
The anchor putting analogy is great but at least there everybody can see what putter everyone is using.
I can't see what controllers players are using to play this game.
Bottom line I don't trust online players.
Let alone any computer program hacks that may be available for pc players.

[dlw1964]

Plus your only going to police top scores.
What about someone that might be using one and finishes in the middle of the pack?
He just might have knock a legit player off the pga tour.

[colinmafia]

Good points on both sides, but we had all these arguments on TW13 & 14 I personally play for fun, I'm pants on a first round on a new course, then when I get to know it scores drop considerably, I played my Ladybank fife, yesterday sored -14 just missing the course record -15, but if I play a unreal course I can't get the adrenaline flowing to put the effort in and do the math on the loft, but I'm good enough to go for a Tour card so i'll be happy, in the end you still have to play the wind and take that shot a Hori can't play your shot for you and you could say a Xbox1 handset should not be used on a PC but HB recommended it from the start, so I would say who cares, best player wins on skill putting the hours in on practice pays off for all, this is not EA cheat infested game its pure Skill Respect to all low scorers.

[jimgem]

Tbh the hori just isn't a normal 3rd party controller,It dosn't just have stiffer sticks or less sensitive sticks.It has been specifically designed to reduce the sensitivity of the X-Axis.As you can see in the pic it actualy has a dial that reduces the sensitivity of the analogue sticks.To me that is much more than just a small advantage.That can mean the difference of a 15ft putt and a 5ft putt.Thats a big advantage.

Then comes the human interaction, on the 18th tee a tight fairway level scoring with the leader and you are thinking to yourself,Ok just need to hit this straight.Then boom the nerves, adrenaline call it what you will but you are in the sh%$(bunker,Rough,Trees) you won't have that with this controller its just tee it up,loft it up and boom it down the middle.Tbh thats the saddest part of all, you won't get that nervousness or that bit of adrenaline,and thats what this game should give you when you are fighting for a top spot.

[dlw1964]

Nov 4, 2014 8:43:08 GMT -5 jimgem said:

Tbh the hori just isn't a normal 3rd party controller,It dosn't just have stiffer sticks or less sensitive sticks.It has been specifically designed to reduce the sensitivity of the X-Axis.As you can see in the pic it actualy has a dial that reduces the sensitivity of the analogue sticks.To me that is much more than just a small advantage.That can mean the difference of a 15ft putt and a 5ft putt.Thats a big advantage.

Then comes the human interaction, on the 18th tee a tight fairway level scoring with the leader and you are thinking to yourself,Ok just need to hit this straight.Then boom the nerves, adrenaline call it what you will but you are in the sh%$(bunker,Rough,Trees) you won't have that with this controller its just tee it up,loft it up and boom it down the middle.Tbh thats the saddest part of all, you won't get that nervousness or that bit of adrenaline,and thats what this game should give you when you are fighting for a top spot.

Yes the hori has a dial.
I've found no difference between playing on 1 or 10.
The ps3 hori had a switch
You could adjust from 1 to 3
Some players said 1 was better
Others said 3 and then some just play on 2. I found no difference on that controller.
Also the ps3 version was overall straighter than this ps4 version. IMO
I have more off hits with the ps4 hori.
Now the part about the 18 hole is true. Lol
but there is still pressure to make putts.
And no I'm not putting from close range all the time. The mechanics are a lot better in this game compare to tw that game I was almost always close.
The straight line over the squiggly line isn't as big as a difference that you think it is.

[jarednich]

Nov 4, 2014 8:43:08 GMT -5 jimgem said:

Tbh the hori just isn't a normal 3rd party controller,It dosn't just have stiffer sticks or less sensitive sticks.It has been specifically designed to reduce the sensitivity of the X-Axis.As you can see in the pic it actualy has a dial that reduces the sensitivity of the analogue sticks.To me that is much more than just a small advantage.That can mean the difference of a 15ft putt and a 5ft putt.Thats a big advantage.

Then comes the human interaction, on the 18th tee a tight fairway level scoring with the leader and you are thinking to yourself,Ok just need to hit this straight.Then boom the nerves, adrenaline call it what you will but you are in the sh%$(bunker,Rough,Trees) you won't have that with this controller its just tee it up,loft it up and boom it down the middle.Tbh thats the saddest part of all, you won't get that nervousness or that bit of adrenaline,and thats what this game should give you when you are fighting for a top spot.

The real shame is that the CHampion golfErs who Are Trying thEiR beSt (this is my name for the Hori users) can most likely adjust that dial on the fly. That will make it harder to detect unless you work for HB and get that data.

[bentfivewood]

Nov 4, 2014 9:44:08 GMT -5 dlw1964 said:

Nov 4, 2014 8:43:08 GMT -5 jimgem said:

Tbh the hori just isn't a normal 3rd party controller,It dosn't just have stiffer sticks or less sensitive sticks.It has been specifically designed to reduce the sensitivity of the X-Axis.As you can see in the pic it actualy has a dial that reduces the sensitivity of the analogue sticks.To me that is much more than just a small advantage.That can mean the difference of a 15ft putt and a 5ft putt.Thats a big advantage.

Then comes the human interaction, on the 18th tee a tight fairway level scoring with the leader and you are thinking to yourself,Ok just need to hit this straight.Then boom the nerves, adrenaline call it what you will but you are in the sh%$(bunker,Rough,Trees) you won't have that with this controller its just tee it up,loft it up and boom it down the middle.Tbh thats the saddest part of all, you won't get that nervousness or that bit of adrenaline,and thats what this game should give you when you are fighting for a top spot.

In NASCAR, there is a range within which all specifications need to lie and that has been set by NASCAR. I'm sure there are some that may seem unfair or are "up for debate." However, they are what they are if you want to compete in a NASCAR event.

Same at TGCT.

Stock controllers and 3rd party controllers that don't allow people to adjust the axis sensitivity = stock car
PS3 Hori = Open-wheel Lamborghini.

The line has to be drawn somewhere.