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Post by Orion on Aug 26, 2015 21:22:11 GMT -5
Thanks Jordan for the support. Kind of a scary thing to do to put this out here like this and not really knowing how some will respond to it. I have always been for some sort of "division" separation for the finals. I also know that the Staff has so much to do with all of the other tours to deal with and still find time for their own families, work and other personal times. But I also see how many different events are coming together for the other tours and just makes me curious as to why there isn't a little slot for the lower groups to have something to call their own event, something to have within the bottom levels. Maybe "The Best of the Worst" kind of event.(LOL) Anyway, thanks again for the kind words.
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Maybe 3 separate championships.. One for A-B, C-D, and E-Z. I completely agree with a lot of lower tier people not really having anything to play for in regards to a championship event.
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Post by jeff on Aug 26, 2015 23:47:39 GMT -5
Ahww, Yes, The CC Championship Tournament. A wonderful event to be sure, but in name only I fear. This event is really for the top guys in the CC-A and B levels. Now, do not get me wrong here, we need to have our own Big Year ending event. This being the inaugural year of the TGCT, and all of the growing pain adjustments that had to be made to correct and adjust the ranks to accommodate the growth, this Championship is really an unobtainable event for the lower levels. Some would say that anyone has just as good of a chance to make it to the victory circle as anyone else would. Not really, the chances of getting there are about as good as earning an exemption to play up one level. The new system is working fine now, it does allow for only the best players to rise up the ranks and it keeps the lesser skilled guys from obtaining a spot that is better suited for the better skilled players. It is working to keep all of the skill sets in their proper places, it isolates and insulates as per design specs.
Now, this is not sour grapes or anything like that. It is really more about maybe putting out some sort of "Carrot" or "Hope" of maybe one day the lower level guys having something to look forward to with respect to a "Championship event" that is really more attainable for those of us who are not as gifted within this game. Maybe something can be considered for the upcoming year that will allow some of the bottom dwellers an event where they will have more of an even chance to win a notable title of achievement. I'm sure that there are more guys out there who share this view and would agree that this up coming event is one that they will enter, put in their 4 rounds or however it is to be structured, then will just sit back and watch to see how low it will go to produce the ultimate winner's name from the upper levels. This is the way it is today, but maybe tomorrow will have something more realistic for us. Maybe 3 separate championships.. One for A-B, C-D, and E-Z. I completely agree with a lot of lower tier people not really having anything to play for in regards to a championship event. I like this idea also; maybe it a win could even come with a promotion to the next flight up or something along those lines.
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Post by dh-nufc on Aug 27, 2015 2:18:20 GMT -5
I'm sure it's possible to have one championship tournament which will still give people the chance for promotion and glory but at the same time use the results to create sub-tables for the different levels, maybe as Jordan suggested.(Who I now hate by the way after he put too much pressure on me when going for promotion) It's exactly what they do now with the CC tour and all of it's flights.
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Post by bogeyman on Aug 27, 2015 3:28:15 GMT -5
Ahww, Yes, The CC Championship Tournament. A wonderful event to be sure, but in name only I fear. This event is really for the top guys in the CC-A and B levels. Now, do not get me wrong here, we need to have our own Big Year ending event. This being the inaugural year of the TGCT, and all of the growing pain adjustments that had to be made to correct and adjust the ranks to accommodate the growth, this Championship is really an unobtainable event for the lower levels. Some would say that anyone has just as good of a chance to make it to the victory circle as anyone else would. Not really, the chances of getting there are about as good as earning an exemption to play up one level. The new system is working fine now, it does allow for only the best players to rise up the ranks and it keeps the lesser skilled guys from obtaining a spot that is better suited for the better skilled players. It is working to keep all of the skill sets in their proper places, it isolates and insulates as per design specs.
Now, this is not sour grapes or anything like that. It is really more about maybe putting out some sort of "Carrot" or "Hope" of maybe one day the lower level guys having something to look forward to with respect to a "Championship event" that is really more attainable for those of us who are not as gifted within this game. Maybe something can be considered for the upcoming year that will allow some of the bottom dwellers an event where they will have more of an even chance to win a notable title of achievement. I'm sure that there are more guys out there who share this view and would agree that this up coming event is one that they will enter, put in their 4 rounds or however it is to be structured, then will just sit back and watch to see how low it will go to produce the ultimate winner's name from the upper levels. This is the way it is today, but maybe tomorrow will have something more realistic for us. Orion I pretty much agree with everything you said. There is, however, a positive side. Doyley said there could be up to 100 Web tour cards available. If 100 of the top guys in A & B win cards and move up surely that gives us lower guys at least a realistic chance of getting ourselves promoted to a higher tier in the new season.
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Post by Orion on Aug 27, 2015 4:33:35 GMT -5
Thanks Bogeyman, and you are right about the positive aspects of things. I'm sure that there are some other possible positive things that could result from the end of the year events. Just remember also that there will probably be a lot of guys coming down to the lower ranks from the Web tour also. For me, it is not all that important about moving up into the Web tour, am a realistic kind of old school guy and I accept the fact that I will never shoot like the Big Dogs, not consistently anyway. The Staff have really a lot on their plates with the scheduled multitude of events for the PGA, Euro and Web Championships, plus all of the after events that have been announced. These guys have to be able to live their lives, so not to much can be given to the lower tours time wise. Ultimately it is my hope and desire that somehow we get the chances to have some special events geared towards our skill levels and get the moral up like it was in the very beginning of the TGCT. I could go on and on about this Bogeyman, but I won't . I just think that a large group of players would like to be able to reach out and touch some sort of event and say, "Hey, I really do think I have a very good chance at winning this" or something to that effect. I guess what I am trying to say is give us some hope, something that is well within our skill set that anyone has that real chance of performing well enough to be the winner. It will not be this year, but hopefully next year this can be addressed and some restructuring can occur to offer that hope. Even if it is not next year, hopefully someone will see that the less skilled guys are still players and like the Big Dogs, have a great thirst for a real chance at a victory.
Orion I pretty much agree with everything you said. There is, however, a positive side. Doyley said there could be up to 100 Web tour cards available. If 100 of the top guys in A & B win cards and move up surely that gives us lower guys at least a realistic chance of getting ourselves promoted to a higher tier in the new season.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Sept 1, 2015 5:16:14 GMT -5
Question.
If 100 cards are handed out top 100 on the masterboard purely hypothetically say 50 are CCA 50 are CCB would this result in each tour be shuffled about due to the chasm that will be left my these mass promotions otherwise CCA & CCB, could be fielding 70/80 players as the lowers would have 150+.
In basic english will the players outside the web.com card bracket (top100) shuffle up tours to keep all the CC's to a nice and even size.
All numbers are plucked from the sky obviously but just curious.
Thank you.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Sept 1, 2015 6:31:25 GMT -5
This is Doak Valley ? I know for a fact that the combination of the wind and some very narrow fairways and landing areas will mean i have absolutely zero chance. That doesn't mean i wont be trying though
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Post by mikenym84 on Sept 1, 2015 15:19:35 GMT -5
This should be fun! I'm only starting my second tourney today but Im hooked on these even if Im average at best. Also Im playing on xbox1 EST so if anyone wants to play send me a message on here or a PM on xbox GT EhF Ohh17
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Post by canthitstraight on Sept 6, 2015 18:26:31 GMT -5
This is Doak Valley ? I know for a fact that the combination of the wind and some very narrow fairways and landing areas will mean i have absolutely zero chance. That doesn't mean i wont be trying though Yes, Doak Valley. Bottom of the list: tgctours.com/Tour/Tournaments?tourId=11&season=2015
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Post by canthitstraight on Sept 6, 2015 18:27:38 GMT -5
Question. If 100 cards are handed out top 100 on the masterboard purely hypothetically say 50 are CCA 50 are CCB would this result in each tour be shuffled about due to the chasm that will be left my these mass promotions otherwise CCA & CCB, could be fielding 70/80 players as the lowers would have 150+. In basic english will the players outside the web.com card bracket (top100) shuffle up tours to keep all the CC's to a nice and even size. All numbers are plucked from the sky obviously but just curious. Thank you. It would be my guess that if half the field of CC-A and CC-B went to the web that everyone would just get reshuffled up so that the CC's would all be approximately an equal number to begin next season.
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Sept 7, 2015 2:35:38 GMT -5
This is Doak Valley ? I know for a fact that the combination of the wind and some very narrow fairways and landing areas will mean i have absolutely zero chance. That doesn't mean i wont be trying though Yes, Doak Valley. Bottom of the list: tgctours.com/Tour/Tournaments?tourId=11&season=2015Thanks for that.
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Post by dh-nufc on Sept 24, 2015 3:12:11 GMT -5
It really depends on how depleted the Web.com is after their Finals - but I wouldn't be surprised to see upwards of 100 cards It looks like there's around 130 going up from web but am I right in saying inactive players from PGA and Euro will go down to Web? If they are inactive now I guess they are likely to stay inactive but will still take up space, is that right?
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Post by Doyley on Sept 24, 2015 7:58:37 GMT -5
It really depends on how depleted the Web.com is after their Finals - but I wouldn't be surprised to see upwards of 100 cards It looks like there's around 130 going up from web but am I right in saying inactive players from PGA and Euro will go down to Web? If they are inactive now I guess they are likely to stay inactive but will still take up space, is that right? Inactive players don't count towards the tour card quota. Looking to keep around 140-160 active players in the top 3 tours
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Post by dh-nufc on Sept 24, 2015 10:49:45 GMT -5
It looks like there's around 130 going up from web but am I right in saying inactive players from PGA and Euro will go down to Web? If they are inactive now I guess they are likely to stay inactive but will still take up space, is that right? Inactive players don't count towards the tour card quota. Looking to keep around 140-160 active players in the top 3 tours Cheers Doyley, so we should be looking at a very high number of cards available. I best get practicing for that!
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Post by remlap on Sept 25, 2015 11:34:23 GMT -5
Inactive players don't count towards the tour card quota. Looking to keep around 140-160 active players in the top 3 tours Cheers Doyley, so we should be looking at a very high number of cards available. I best get practicing for that! Awesome! Lots up for grabs. I might burn through this last week of CC so I have extra time to practice for the championship.
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