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Post by dh-nufc on Jul 2, 2015 3:37:16 GMT -5
I played a round yesterday and had what I think is an almost impossible shot. I was wondering how people would have played it. The numbers might be slightly off but hopefully you will have an idea.
2nd shot into a par 4 with a 7MPH head wind. It's around 207 yards to the pin and the pin is about 5 yards onto the green.
The best I could think of was to use a 3 iron be de-loft it, allowing less effect by the wind. If I leave the loft or add loft it'll be short in the bunker.
I managed to land the ball just in the rough short of the green but due to course conditions and the fact I de-lofted, the ball ran off the back of the green.
My only other thought was a 5 wood but even if I added full loft (and managed to get my shot in the cone) then the ball would have landed at the back or over the green.
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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 2, 2015 4:02:34 GMT -5
I would have went full 4I. 195 yards and good to go..But you didn't mention if bunkers were in front or if their was a hill (where you go short and the ball bounces back). If the bunker was directly in front, I'd just go to the bigger part of the green (safe shot).
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Post by dh-nufc on Jul 2, 2015 5:01:11 GMT -5
Bunkers were in front with a couple of yards of rough after them and the green was slightly more elevated than the bunkers.
Head wind was 7MPH, the 4 iron would surely be way short. There was also no real safe part of the green as multiple bunkers protected it from my angle.
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Post by poobley on Jul 2, 2015 5:32:09 GMT -5
Depends If there was any fairway in front of the green to run onto the green but you said if short there is a bunker.
If there was room to come in from any angle I may go for that shot. i.e. using draw or fade.
Were the greens firm/soft and fast/slow?
without seeing the shot it is hard to say, but would say if the greens were firm and had any pace to them it is a poor pin placement. Even with no wind you would have went a bit longer with the initial drive, so maybe a 5 iron to get to the green, and that would have run off with firm fast conditions.
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Post by dh-nufc on Jul 2, 2015 6:09:24 GMT -5
No room before the green and only a small amount at the side. I'll try to get more details or even a video. I would say medium/firm and fast greens.
If I was further left on the fairway I would have more of a chance to fade it onto the green.
That would indicate that more thought should have gone into the drive to allow for that shot.
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Post by poobley on Jul 2, 2015 6:18:40 GMT -5
Its a tricky shot, I will grant you that. have no idea if I would be able to hold.
I would probably lay up short and try pitching flopping for birdie and if no birdie take the likely par
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jul 2, 2015 6:19:56 GMT -5
I'd have probably played the shot you played. Sometimes a hole and a certain wind direction just don't match and you have to take your par and get out of there.
At least when the wind fix happens every player will be in the same situation.
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Post by edi_vedder on Jul 2, 2015 19:25:33 GMT -5
Its a tricky shot, I will grant you that. have no idea if I would be able to hold. I would probably lay up short and try pitching flopping for birdie and if no birdie take the likely par +1 We don't have to make birdie on ANY hole... as simple as that. |
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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 2, 2015 19:32:14 GMT -5
Depends If there was any fairway in front of the green to run onto the green but you said if short there is a bunker. If there was room to come in from any angle I may go for that shot. i.e. using draw or fade. Were the greens firm/soft and fast/slow? without seeing the shot it is hard to say, but would say if the greens were firm and had any pace to them it is a poor pin placement. Even with no wind you would have went a bit longer with the initial drive, so maybe a 5 iron to get to the green, and that would have run off with firm fast conditions. 195 - 4I, 7MPH head wind, and I'm hitting it 203-204. Perfect shot. |
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Post by blackaces13 on Jul 2, 2015 20:42:57 GMT -5
Headwind means into you. You are thinking of a tailwind.
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Post by Mitchblue on Jul 2, 2015 23:57:03 GMT -5
Headwind means into you. You are thinking of a tailwind. You're right, me sew dum. |
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Post by t2theb2 on Jul 23, 2015 15:17:04 GMT -5
Play for the rough around the green. Hopefully chip in.
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Post by kireishoujo on Jul 23, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -5
5 wood lofted down.
Should give me about 218yds, into 7mph headwind and slightly up hill would knock it down to about 210 I'd guess.
Surely long still.
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Post by wvridgerunner on Jul 23, 2015 18:12:54 GMT -5
As someone else said, you don't HAVE to shoot for a green in regulation on every hole. On very difficult long par 4's, where a pin is inaccessible, sometimes the best bet is to play it safe and layup. In this instance, the safe play sounds like it would be 40-50 yds short of the green; however, you'd still be left with a tough chip.
I myself like to play fairly aggressive. That shot should've been fairly easy to pull with a full 3 iron and a couple clicks of deloft (if there wasn't any elevation change). With a 100% swing, that should land just on the front of the green with some roll out. Then, just lag your long putt or chip close and tap in for par.
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Post by hazebronso47 on Aug 1, 2015 23:38:57 GMT -5
There's a couple of bits of info that you're leaving out - green speed and elevation.
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