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Post by meunier33 on Aug 29, 2024 14:54:37 GMT -5
When I have played real golf or mini golf and I putt the ball on the hole, what happens? The majority of correctly hit putts grab the plastic or metal liner of the cup and spins the ball in like one of those things that collects coins in the mall. That is what the programmers of this game fail to model correctly IMO.
I see this as the game programmers problem and not my problem. Before you send me clips of Tiger lipping out short putts, this does not apply to a computer game. You can't have yips or cross grips touching one stick on a controller. The putting touch will be the same every time except for the force applied as far as I understand it.
Another thing is that I have no downswing when I putt. I rely on momentum of a hard backswing to carry the putt or chip forward without me pushing the stick forward. I don't understand why you would use a full swing when you can avoid it. I think the less you touch the less you can screw up. That was the same reason I started this game years ago never taking full regular swings. I think you play this game with your controller, not your body. I think it is more important how you don't touch the controller than your actual inputs to the controller.
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Post by Bear on Aug 30, 2024 5:00:28 GMT -5
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Post by prowse00 on Aug 30, 2024 5:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by trevormendez on Aug 30, 2024 15:33:11 GMT -5
When I have played real golf or mini golf and I putt the ball on the hole, what happens? The majority of correctly hit putts grab the plastic or metal liner of the cup and spins the ball in like one of those things that collects coins in the mall. That is what the programmers of this game fail to model correctly IMO. I see this as the game programmers problem and not my problem. Before you send me clips of Tiger lipping out short putts, this does not apply to a computer game. You can't have yips or cross grips touching one stick on a controller. The putting touch will be the same every time except for the force applied as far as I understand it. Another thing is that I have no downswing when I putt. I rely on momentum of a hard backswing to carry the putt or chip forward without me pushing the stick forward. I don't understand why you would use a full swing when you can avoid it. I think the less you touch the less you can screw up. That was the same reason I started this game years ago never taking full regular swings. I think you play this game with your controller, not your body. I think it is more important how you don't touch the controller than your actual inputs to the controller. I remember some time ago, you mentioned side-bite putting. At the time I wanted to ask why...... This is why. Hitting the ball in the side of the cup is not a correctly hit putt... The ball should fall in the hole.. Not have to grab the cup liner and spiral in.... That is all I have to say on the matter. Good luck. |
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Post by meunier33 on Aug 31, 2024 0:23:17 GMT -5
"Hitting the ball in the side of the cup is not a correctly hit putt..." I putt like this in real life and it works in real life. This is why I keep trying it in the game over and over. What throws me off in the game with this technique is any kind of delay in the controller. If there is 1/4 second delay in between when I move the stick back and when the putter moves back, this will make me overhit and miss putts.
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Post by ARH Semsi on Aug 31, 2024 9:55:11 GMT -5
Using the side of the cup is risky. A ball traveling at a higher speed on the edge of the cup will slingshot around the hole instead of gravity pulling it into the cup. Whereas a ball traveling at a higher speed in the middle of the cup will result in more shots dropping than bouncing over.
The issue is not in the game, it's in you hitting the ball too hard to allow gravity to take effect.
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Post by Bear on Aug 31, 2024 10:07:03 GMT -5
Using the side of the cup is risky. A ball traveling at a higher speed on the edge of the cup will slingshot around the hole instead of gravity pulling it into the cup. Whereas a ball traveling at a higher speed in the middle of the cup will result in more shots dropping than bouncing over. The issue is not in the game, it's in you hitting the ball too hard to allow gravity to take effect. Mate, there's no point telling someone who won't be told. No professional golfers -- or any golfers anywhere for that matter -- aim for the side of the hole. This guy just wants the game to obey his absurd theories. |
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Post by sandgroper on Aug 31, 2024 11:42:38 GMT -5
I find a putt that hits the bottom of the cup is a lot better than one that skips past the lip.
How about you join the rest of the golfing universe that aims to hit the bottom of the hole.
That way you’ll have a better score.
Apparently that’s the aim of the game.
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Post by meunier33 on Aug 31, 2024 12:27:08 GMT -5
Using the side of the cup is risky. A ball traveling at a higher speed on the edge of the cup will slingshot around the hole instead of gravity pulling it into the cup. Whereas a ball traveling at a higher speed in the middle of the cup will result in more shots dropping than bouncing over. The issue is not in the game, it's in you hitting the ball too hard to allow gravity to take effect. Mate, there's no point telling someone who won't be told. No professional golfers -- or any golfers anywhere for that matter -- aim for the side of the hole. This guy just wants the game to obey his absurd theories. I'm not into absurd theories, it is because I have something that is like Asperger's syndrome and this gives me some eye tracking problems. I can't visually define where the center of the hole is. I can pick up the edges but the hole has no rear when I look at it. It looks kind of like "IUI" when I look at the hole. I'm pretty sure I have mentioned this before here. |
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Post by sandgroper on Sept 1, 2024 0:48:03 GMT -5
Aim for the middle U then…
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Sept 1, 2024 12:52:44 GMT -5
Mate, there's no point telling someone who won't be told. No professional golfers -- or any golfers anywhere for that matter -- aim for the side of the hole. This guy just wants the game to obey his absurd theories. I'm not into absurd theories, it is because I have something that is like Asperger's syndrome and this gives me some eye tracking problems. I can't visually define where the center of the hole is. I can pick up the edges but the hole has no rear when I look at it. It looks kind of like "IUI" when I look at the hole. I'm pretty sure I have mentioned this before here. If you can see the edges why not just try going halfway between them? |
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Post by bubbadave on Sept 2, 2024 11:54:11 GMT -5
Using the side of the cup is risky. A ball traveling at a higher speed on the edge of the cup will slingshot around the hole instead of gravity pulling it into the cup. Whereas a ball traveling at a higher speed in the middle of the cup will result in more shots dropping than bouncing over. The issue is not in the game, it's in you hitting the ball too hard to allow gravity to take effect. Indeed. Saw it twice on Sunday, once by Morikawa when he was moving on Scheffler. |
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Post by Demonondalinks on Sept 3, 2024 9:57:43 GMT -5
I've had plenty of balls drop on left edge or right edge and 99.99999$% from the front edge. If you hit the edge and the ball rolls by the hole by 6 feet the answer to your problem is obvious.
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Post by meunier33 on Sept 3, 2024 11:49:48 GMT -5
Using the side of the cup is risky. A ball traveling at a higher speed on the edge of the cup will slingshot around the hole instead of gravity pulling it into the cup. Whereas a ball traveling at a higher speed in the middle of the cup will result in more shots dropping than bouncing over. The issue is not in the game, it's in you hitting the ball too hard to allow gravity to take effect. Indeed. Saw it twice on Sunday, once by Morikawa when he was moving on Scheffler. I don't fully use force to putt. I use the power from the backswing and let this momentum carry the putter forward. I have been missing some two foot putts lately because the momentum is carrying too hard. My controller goes in and out of calibration with momentum. I have no control over this gain and loss of calibration. All I can do when the controller is off track is to wait for the putter to start responding correctly again. This way is how I learned to putt in the original game that had swing timing, because it was a good glitch. |
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Post by Demonondalinks on Sept 3, 2024 12:46:08 GMT -5
Some good advice from a master putter.
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