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Post by waggy on Apr 24, 2023 10:39:27 GMT -5
Well, you can't make this stuff up. I play an entire round and every shot behaves exactly as I expect it to. In fact, I dialed in a 172 iron off the fairway that ended up 5 feet from the pin. Unbelievable.
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Post by M.Bel_Trame on Apr 24, 2023 11:42:47 GMT -5
if the shot is almost perfect, ball in rough, tall grass...less backspin and more roll, like in real life Except I'm not talking about the rollout. I understand that. I'm talking about hitting a 70% lie percentage with a 200 yard club that goes 220 yards on the fly. It just shouldn't do that. Not when most of my shots off the tee go 10 yards short of the max club distance. There is an illogical inconsistency that I really don't understand. It makes it impossible to plan your shots. the only explanation is that the ball starts with a "flier", due to too much grass between the iron face and the ball... |
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Post by Blade on Apr 24, 2023 17:35:35 GMT -5
Obviously I understand that an uphill lie the ball won't go as far. But I'm talking about a relatively flat lie in the rough, no wind, a perfect or just slightly fast swing, and the ball goes 20 yards farther on the fly than it should according to the lie range. That's what I don't get. Maybe I'll video a round or do an instant replay of one of these shots and post it here. The last instance of this was off the tee. Driver, 275 yards. The water is 325 yards away. I should be able to land the ball on the fairway and come nowhere near the water in front. So what happens? The ball goes 325 yards on the fly into the water just making it in. My driver distance on my fittings is 66. So how the bell does that happen? How do you plan for that? I don't want to go down to a 3 wood and hurt my chances of making the green in 2. And the worst thing is, there is no consistency to this. There is no way for me to predict it happening. As for my game itself, my long game (tee, long irons) is killing my scores. I can't hit the ball straight off the tee consistently. Irons are all over the place. I might as well close my eyes and pick one. Short game is excellent. It's the only thing keeping me from shooting over 100 every game. Average game is between 88 and 92. Occasionally, I'll shoot in the upper 70s when the long game comes together for a round. Once I've actually broken par but that was a fluke. In the meantime, I just finished my 2nd week of Q-School. Monday I'll be starting week 3 of Q-School. I'm going to have to have one of those fluke rounds to ever get out of Q-School. I'm usually pretty close to last each week. In spite of my struggles, I'm actually having a blast playing this game. I can see hints of progress and the potential to have a good round. And of course scrambling for fittings to improve my chances is a crap ton of fun. A little frustrating those rounds where they give me golf balls but whatever. My goal is to make CC-L. If I can do that, I'll be content, win or lose, come in last, next to last or whatever. Anyway, from the answers above it seems my problem isn't an uncommon one. Misery loves company. LOL Another thought not yet mentioned is your skills. If you have skills set so it boosts distance for clubs, then you have added distance that you might not notice. For instance, you get a driver boost and you know your driver is 275, but the game has changed it to 288 (for example) because of the skill boost being activated. But since you knew the driver goes 275, you didn't look at what was showing on the driver carry distance. I don't know what the driver skill boost gives you, but it might be at least a partial explanation.
Seeing video will be key, or maybe playing a few rounds with someone with the capability of chatting with each other. Optimal would be for you to stream the round on Twitch, so we could see exactly what you are seeing (watching someone else's round while you play them you don't see the shot feedback, yardage information, lie angle, etc). You could also capture the rounds on Twitch and post them. It is free, but it did take me a bit to figure out. I now sometimes play rounds and post to Twitch. Then after I review the round to see the "strange" shots again. Almost always there was something I missed and the shot wasn't that strange after all.
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Post by bubbadave on Apr 25, 2023 12:00:48 GMT -5
Another thought not yet mentioned is your skills. If you have skills set so it boosts distance for clubs, then you have added distance that you might not notice. For instance, you get a driver boost and you know your driver is 275, but the game has changed it to 288 (for example) because of the skill boost being activated. But since you knew the driver goes 275, you didn't look at what was showing on the driver carry distance. I don't know what the driver skill boost gives you, but it might be at least a partial explanation. Those are figured into your club yardage as they appear. My normal distance with the sand wedge is 113, but it can boost up to about 116 under the right conditions. I've played a single sleeve of Common AV1 aviators which added 2 yards to every club as well. So feasibly during that playtest, my sand wedge might start at 118. All of this shows up on club distance, so unless waggy is not looking at his club distances, it likely wouldn't surprise him on those distances. |
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Post by waggy on Apr 25, 2023 13:14:48 GMT -5
Another thought not yet mentioned is your skills. If you have skills set so it boosts distance for clubs, then you have added distance that you might not notice. For instance, you get a driver boost and you know your driver is 275, but the game has changed it to 288 (for example) because of the skill boost being activated. But since you knew the driver goes 275, you didn't look at what was showing on the driver carry distance. I don't know what the driver skill boost gives you, but it might be at least a partial explanation. Those are figured into your club yardage as they appear. My normal distance with the sand wedge is 113, but it can boost up to about 116 under the right conditions. I've played a single sleeve of Common AV1 aviators which added 2 yards to every club as well. So feasibly during that playtest, my sand wedge might start at 118. All of this shows up on club distance, so unless waggy is not looking at his club distances, it likely wouldn't surprise him on those distances. Thanks. Yes, I absolutely look at my club distances when I play. My driver ranges from 271 all the way up to 288. But the driver is the least of my problems anyway. The bigger problems come from my long irons. A 210 3 iron our of the heavy rough with lie percentage between 63 and 73% will sometimes go 220 to 230 on the fly. No joke. And that's with no wind. I don't know how this is even possible. But it does make it close to impossible to plan your shot. Sometimes I just have to hope for the best. |
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Post by Blade on Apr 25, 2023 13:17:04 GMT -5
Another thought not yet mentioned is your skills. If you have skills set so it boosts distance for clubs, then you have added distance that you might not notice. For instance, you get a driver boost and you know your driver is 275, but the game has changed it to 288 (for example) because of the skill boost being activated. But since you knew the driver goes 275, you didn't look at what was showing on the driver carry distance. I don't know what the driver skill boost gives you, but it might be at least a partial explanation. Those are figured into your club yardage as they appear. My normal distance with the sand wedge is 113, but it can boost up to about 116 under the right conditions. I've played a single sleeve of Common AV1 aviators which added 2 yards to every club as well. So feasibly during that playtest, my sand wedge might start at 118. All of this shows up on club distance, so unless waggy is not looking at his club distances, it likely wouldn't surprise him on those distances. I don't look at my club carry distances anymore as I know what they are, but if I had a skill activated and didn't notice, the ball will go farther than anticipated. Waggy mentioned "he knew" his driver went 275 - suggests he might not be looking. Also, it is easy to get in the habit of just assuming the ball is going to land where the marker is and then adjust for wind, etc. Then you don't have to look at your club's carry distance in the corner. Just now it is a driver, so it is likely to roll out around 20 yards or so. Of course we are all speculating here, who knows! Hopefully we get to see an example on video and can answer this mystery.
Edited to add I just read Waggy's latest post - so he does look. So that is not the issue!
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Post by waggy on Apr 25, 2023 13:31:41 GMT -5
Those are figured into your club yardage as they appear. My normal distance with the sand wedge is 113, but it can boost up to about 116 under the right conditions. I've played a single sleeve of Common AV1 aviators which added 2 yards to every club as well. So feasibly during that playtest, my sand wedge might start at 118. All of this shows up on club distance, so unless waggy is not looking at his club distances, it likely wouldn't surprise him on those distances. I don't look at my club carry distances anymore as I know what they are, but if I had a skill activated and didn't notice, the ball will go farther than anticipated. Waggy mentioned "he knew" his driver went 275 - suggests he might not be looking. Also, it is easy to get in the habit of just assuming the ball is going to land where the marker is and then adjust for wind, etc. Then you don't have to look at your club's carry distance in the corner. Just now it is a driver, so it is likely to roll out around 20 yards or so. Of course we are all speculating here, who knows! Hopefully we get to see an example on video and can answer this mystery.
Edited to add I just read Waggy's latest post - so he does look. So that is not the issue!
I'm still waiting to play a round where this happens again. So far, it hasn't, which has me stumped. Also, my game has improved immensely. I really think I'll have my CC-L card before the summer. We'll see. |
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