Week 20 - Pinehurst #2

[theclv24]

Hey all,

Weekly feedback time. I don't have a course vote to offer, but I thought I would analyze the last few tournaments to see where we are at from a difficulty perspective and where we are headed in the future. Keep in mind that future changes to the format of the Tours is coming, and this should clear up some of the issues between Web A and Web C playing the same course. I want the Web C players to enjoy the competition without getting too frustrated, and I want the Web A players to have a challenge that will keep them interested.

So I went back 4 weeks to get a feel for how the 2 courses I have picked so far measure up to the previous courses:

Week 16 - Gewella

Web A winner: -51
Web A cut: -13

Web B winner: -56
Web B cut: -11

Web C winner: -43
Web C cut: -5


Week 17 - Castleberry

Web A winner: -36
Web A cut: -8

Web B winner: -36
Web B cut: -2

Web C winner: -31
Web C cut: +1


Week 18 - Atherstone

Web A winner: -50
Web A cut: -11

Web B winner: -43
Web B cut: -8

Web C winner: -38
Web C cut: -2


Week 19 - Soggy Bottom

Web A winner: -45
Web A cut: -11

Web B winner: -42
Web B cut: -7

Web C winner: -37
Web C cut: -2


So in analysis, I would say that Atherstone was maybe a little easier than I thought it would be. Soggy Bottom proved to be a slight increase in difficulty. The biggest question I would have, then, is how did everyone feel about Castleberry? Do you like that kind of challenge every week, or just once in awhile is good?

Thanks, as always, for the feedback!

[Deleted]

I didn't play Gewella so this post will ignore that course. I believe Atherstone would have looked differently without wind waiting. It was a great course choice. Castleberry had too many bunkers forcing the difficulty in my view but was still a good course. Soggy Bottom was the easiest due to easy greens but again, with winds played to a good difficulty due to tight fairways. You hit the nail on the head in regards to these courses in my view.

As for this weeks debate, Blue Tees or US Open? The Blue Tees is definitely an easy course (ironically I'm gonna miss the cut after having my worst round in weeks) I understand why Blues were used as we're not the top tour but it was a tad easy. Fun course though no doubt.

My idea of toughness is this...

Centennial Oak (East/North) - Champs Tour
Centennial Oak (Championship) - Web
Centennial Oak (Tour) - PGA/Euro

We played the East/North on web. That was too easy.

[mnguy12000]

I think that is pretty inline with us. Blues are ok. I wouldn't change it. They guys that can putt should win. And that is what is happening. I think once the wind fix gets released it would be better as everyone has the same basic wind and should tighten up the scores, whether they actually go DOWN is to be seen, just think the top 10 will be closer to the 1st place then it is now.

[lessangster]

I think with this weeks course on web A you have to make your score pretty much in the first nine as the second nine is harder, missed the cut last week due to playing in high winds in the first round second round was easier and I scored accordingly but not low enough to hit the qualifying score.

[Deleted]

As a side note myself and another web-b player set up a 4 course tour against each other from next weeks through to Bunyip. My Thoughts?

Next weeks fast greens should be interesting, nice course, good web course as would be too easy for level above. We both shot -5. 8/10

Oakmere is just simply outstanding. Slower greens but some really memorable holes. Whole lot of fun will be has here. I shot -4, he shot -3. 10/10

Pennsylvania. An absolute favourite of mine now I've played it. I've played The Field Club by the same designer and it irks me how little good rural themed courses there are. Lovely fast/slick greens, could cause difficulty in adapting from the previous two weeks countryside theme. I personally love it. Shot -7. Friend shot +2. 9/10.

Bunyip. Poor course in my opinion. Small greens that aren't receptive due to the firmness. A lot of forced carries aswell which is a poor cocktail with the firmness. Just don't like it, played it 3 or 4 times to see what the fuss is about. Still don't understand it. Shot Evs. Friend shot -2. 6/10.

[theclv24]

May 18, 2015 20:16:28 GMT -5 oswinner said:

Bunyip. Poor course in my opinion. Small greens that aren't receptive due to the firmness. A lot of forced carries aswell which is a poor cocktail with the firmness. Just don't like it, played it 3 or 4 times to see what the fuss is about. Still don't understand it. Shot Evs. Friend shot -2. 6/10.

Thanks for the feedback oswinner.

I know that different courses appeal to different people, so I certainly respect your opinion. This one was shocking to me though. You are literally the first person I've seen to not like Bunyip out of dozens. I think it's a good test and a change of pace with it being a short course.

Still, 3 out of 4 isn't too bad in my mind... although I'll always shoot for 4.

[jtrippuk]

Pinehurst (blue), I enjoyed this course. you have to be accurate on the greens as most tend to slope away if you are too far away. putting seems to be downhill on most holes & a tap is usually all that is needed.

only problem is hole 5 where it stutters, (due to loads of pine trees around the tee) but I didn't have any problems with 92% shots.

played the us open version after bill said in another thread, & prefer blue tees, mainly due to you can't hit a driver on blue tees every long hole.