Swing Meter

[andy6467]

I have the swing meter shut off as I find it to be a huge distraction during my swing.  Then again, I find that all of my swings are >100%, which seems to be problematic, so I think I need to turn it back on?

Is it more common to use it or shut if off?

[up mup kupen nup]

Hi Andy,

I am slightly confused since you talk about the swing meter and then connect it with swinging above 100%

Well, the distance control meter (where you see if you hit >100%) is turned off anyway on the main tours, so I guess hardly anybody has turned it on at all. Moreover, hitting above 100% is, at least for me, not really an issue. I shoot 101-102% all the time without noticing any loss of ball control.

As for the swing meter (where it shows your swing path and timing), I'd say it is mostly personal preference. The purists will probably have turned it off for increased immersion. I have turned it on because I think it helps with evaluating my swing post shot in order to make corrections for the next one.

I hope this helps.

Cheers!

[JosiaDB]

Dec 1, 2022 2:08:24 GMT -5 up mup kupen nup said:

Hi Andy,

I am slightly confused since you talk about the swing meter and then connect it with swinging above 100%

Well, the distance control meter (where you see if you hit >100%) is turned off anyway on the main tours, so I guess hardly anybody has turned it on at all. Moreover, hitting above 100% is, at least for me, not really an issue. I shoot 101-102% all the time without noticing any loss of ball control.

As for the swing meter (where it shows your swing path and timing), I'd say it is mostly personal preference. The purists will probably have turned it off for increased immersion. I have turned it on because I think it helps with evaluating my swing post shot in order to make corrections for the next one.

I hope this helps.

Cheers!

Actually, this is something that also confuses me-  I have had the exact same thought/question as I believe andy6467 is trying to ask.

I have it shut off, because of the same reasons, its a huge distraction.  Plus, as you say, its turned off anyway in the main tours.

I think the question is, (at least for me),  I keep seeing posts about distance control, that refer to it.  

I have pretty much given up on trying to hit a percentage of any shot, because I can't see that distance meter.  I just figure on >100% for every club, unless its a chip shot or a putt, which I do by feel.   But I see posts that are referring to the transition stat, hitting your transition in that white area for distance, and also for putt weight, for the same thing.  If you don't have that meter on, then how do you see where that white area is for distance?

I think thats the actual question-  With all the posts we see referring to that, do most use it when not playing tours?  If they don't, then how do you gauge where that white area for distance is, that is referred to on a lot of the helpful posts?

[Blade]

Dec 2, 2022 8:40:48 GMT -5 JosiaDB said:

Dec 1, 2022 2:08:24 GMT -5 up mup kupen nup said:

Hi Andy,

I am slightly confused since you talk about the swing meter and then connect it with swinging above 100%

Well, the distance control meter (where you see if you hit >100%) is turned off anyway on the main tours, so I guess hardly anybody has turned it on at all. Moreover, hitting above 100% is, at least for me, not really an issue. I shoot 101-102% all the time without noticing any loss of ball control.

As for the swing meter (where it shows your swing path and timing), I'd say it is mostly personal preference. The purists will probably have turned it off for increased immersion. I have turned it on because I think it helps with evaluating my swing post shot in order to make corrections for the next one.

I hope this helps.

Cheers!

Actually, this is something that also confuses me-  I have had the exact same thought/question as I believe andy6467 is trying to ask.

I have it shut off, because of the same reasons, its a huge distraction.  Plus, as you say, its turned off anyway in the main tours.

I think the question is, (at least for me),  I keep seeing posts about distance control, that refer to it.  

I have pretty much given up on trying to hit a percentage of any shot, because I can't see that distance meter.  I just figure on >100% for every club, unless its a chip shot or a putt, which I do by feel.   But I see posts that are referring to the transition stat, hitting your transition in that white area for distance, and also for putt weight, for the same thing.  If you don't have that meter on, then how do you see where that white area is for distance?

I think thats the actual question-  With all the posts we see referring to that, do most use it when not playing tours?  If they don't, then how do you gauge where that white area for distance is, that is referred to on a lot of the helpful posts?

I intentionally don't hit 100% (or more) as it makes your swing outcome much worse (unless you have perfect swing plane and timing). My game has definitely improved in this game as a result (but I am still not good - I play about par golf now, but that didn't happen in 2K21). I have a tempo to my swing and it usually hits around 96%. On rare occasions I hit a 93% or a 101% (very rare to go over) but I am i the 95-98% most of the time. I give up a few yards on a drive but I am very consistently on the fairway. I plan for a few yards off the "perfect" distance for my approach shots and I am also consistently either on the green or just off.

You can see the white area by looking at your swing feedback. Below the swing plane is your percent swing. Because I under-swing I don't often see white on a full swing. On a partial shot, I do look to see if I was light gray or white. When I putt, I always look to see if I was white or light gray. Can't impact my current shot, but teaches me if I tend to over or under swing on partials (which includes putts). The one thing I wish I could easily know is what the white percent is. The putting chart helps, but there is no similar chart for the non-putt swings. So instead I take practice swings to get an idea of where the % target is.

I never use the meter when playing as I feel it teaches me bad habits (I can't stop looking at the meter when it is on) for when I am playing TGC rounds.  If I am practicing, I do sometimes turn it on to get a better feel for what a shot should do if I hit a certain percentage, etc.

[cseanny]

JosiaDB The Meta in 2K21 was 101% and the same holds true in 2K23. In fact, even with a very low, say 60 Transition skill stat (Distance Control in 2K21), it's very easy to hit 101% on the vast majority of your shots. No need to go overboard on Transition points!!  Keep in mind I'm at 30FPS on a PS4 so if we can get 101%, then anyone playing on 60FPS will have an easier time.

I also find the swing meter AND vibration to be a huge distraction and detrimental to my game. I've always used Avatar Positions with great accuracy for both full and putt swings.

[JosiaDB]

I find that I have a hard time with tempo, on a normal shot, if I don't do that slight little pause at the top.   But to do that, I have to go over 100%.   If I try not to do that pause, I get very fasts every single time.

Now on pitch, flop, and splash, I do not pause.  I get very slows on those, if I pause.  If I don't pause, I mostly have them downpat now.  But if I try to partials on them, I still will hit very fast.

Blade I know the percentage number you referred to on shot feedback.  I never realized or noticed it showed there as white or light grey!  I just read the number only.  LOL

[Blade]

Dec 2, 2022 10:50:10 GMT -5 JosiaDB said:

I find that I have a hard time with tempo, on a normal shot, if I don't do that slight little pause at the top.   But to do that, I have to go over 100%.   If I try not to do that pause, I get very fasts every single time.

Now on pitch, flop, and splash, I do not pause.  I get very slows on those, if I pause.  If I don't pause, I mostly have them downpat now.  But if I try to partials on them, I still will hit very fast.

Blade I know the percentage number you referred to on shot feedback.  I never realized or noticed it showed there as white or light grey!  I just read the number only.  LOL

I find I swing too fast when I am trying to hit a swing target. I guess I get excited I am hitting the target % and swing hard. I do struggle with the splash as the tempo feels super fast to me compared to the rest of my swings (which all feel the same to me if I am doing a full swing).

I sometimes struggle with "Is that dark or light gray?" which is funny since they are not really close. It is usually wishful thinking on my part.

[nevadaballin]

Nov 28, 2022 15:03:49 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

I have the swing meter shut off as I find it to be a huge distraction during my swing.  Then again, I find that all of my swings are >100%, which seems to be problematic, so I think I need to turn it back on?

Is it more common to use it or shut if off?

I was messing around with in-game settings the other day and I noticed that when I changed the Graphics from Quality to Performance, it seemed like my same swing was getting way more +100% results than under Quality. Including a few 110%'s

I have always had the meter off and I'm on a PlayStation.

Not sure if this is what you're referring to but I think it is.

[JosiaDB]

Dec 2, 2022 11:02:00 GMT -5 Blade said:

I find I swing too fast when I am trying to hit a swing target. I guess I get excited I am hitting the target % and swing hard. I do struggle with the splash as the tempo feels super fast to me compared to the rest of my swings (which all feel the same to me if I am doing a full swing).

They are!   What I do is I do a backswing, then let off.  I do that about 4-6 times in a row, with no pauses or stops.  Just backswing, let off, backswing, let off, then when I have that speed the animation is doing the backswing in my head, suddenly I hit the foreswing, matching that backswing speed as best I can.     has worked 90% of the time, on both splash and flop, for me.

[andy6467]

Dec 2, 2022 10:27:31 GMT -5 Blade said:

Dec 2, 2022 8:40:48 GMT -5 JosiaDB said:

Actually, this is something that also confuses me-  I have had the exact same thought/question as I believe andy6467 is trying to ask.

I have it shut off, because of the same reasons, its a huge distraction.  Plus, as you say, its turned off anyway in the main tours.

I think the question is, (at least for me),  I keep seeing posts about distance control, that refer to it.  

I have pretty much given up on trying to hit a percentage of any shot, because I can't see that distance meter.  I just figure on >100% for every club, unless its a chip shot or a putt, which I do by feel.   But I see posts that are referring to the transition stat, hitting your transition in that white area for distance, and also for putt weight, for the same thing.  If you don't have that meter on, then how do you see where that white area is for distance?

I think thats the actual question-  With all the posts we see referring to that, do most use it when not playing tours?  If they don't, then how do you gauge where that white area for distance is, that is referred to on a lot of the helpful posts?

I intentionally don't hit 100% (or more) as it makes your swing outcome much worse (unless you have perfect swing plane and timing). My game has definitely improved in this game as a result (but I am still not good - I play about par golf now, but that didn't happen in 2K21). I have a tempo to my swing and it usually hits around 96%. On rare occasions I hit a 93% or a 101% (very rare to go over) but I am i the 95-98% most of the time. I give up a few yards on a drive but I am very consistently on the fairway. I plan for a few yards off the "perfect" distance for my approach shots and I am also consistently either on the green or just off.

You can see the white area by looking at your swing feedback. Below the swing plane is your percent swing. Because I under-swing I don't often see white on a full swing. On a partial shot, I do look to see if I was light gray or white. When I putt, I always look to see if I was white or light gray. Can't impact my current shot, but teaches me if I tend to over or under swing on partials (which includes putts). The one thing I wish I could easily know is what the white percent is. The putting chart helps, but there is no similar chart for the non-putt swings. So instead I take practice swings to get an idea of where the % target is.

I never use the meter when playing as I feel it teaches me bad habits (I can't stop looking at the meter when it is on) for when I am playing TGC rounds.  If I am practicing, I do sometimes turn it on to get a better feel for what a shot should do if I hit a certain percentage, etc.

JosiaDB is correct......Sorry....I guess I was referring to the distance control meter (the meter that is basically an arc around your back swing that shows you the targeted percentage of your backswing) as opposed to the swing meter in the bottom right hand corner to show you your plain and tempo.  The distance control meter appears when I play on-line matches and I need to shut it off because it is a distraction yet I cannot tell, especially with chip shots, as to how far back my backswing needs to be to get the proper distance.  As such, I am basically playing by feel/guesswork and was wondering if I am at a disadvantage by that.

[Blade]

Dec 6, 2022 17:28:10 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

JosiaDB is correct......Sorry....I guess I was referring to the distance control meter (the meter that is basically an arc around your back swing that shows you the targeted percentage of your backswing) as opposed to the swing meter in the bottom right hand corner to show you your plain and tempo.  The distance control meter appears when I play on-line matches and I need to shut it off because it is a distraction yet I cannot tell, especially with chip shots, as to how far back my backswing needs to be to get the proper distance.  As such, I am basically playing by feel/guesswork and was wondering if I am at a disadvantage by that.

That is the problem all of us have. Three ways to deal with this when you need an exact percentage (partial shots and putting are the cases I think of). 1) is to know where in your swing certain partial shots/putts are and use only those. There are definitely good players who use this technique. 2) I think most of us (myself for sure) use vibration to get close to the target and then use practice swings to hone in on "perfect" by looking for light gray and white on the swing meter on the right side. 3) Finally, for those who don't play with vibration and don't memorize swing positions, you can use practice swings and watch your swing meter for the dark or light grey and then narrow it down to the white (or what I do, about the middle of light grey). None of these are easy for me and I would love to have the swing meter on, but part of what makes TGC so fun is how hard it is (just like real golf).