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Post by twofor22 on Sept 14, 2022 8:13:04 GMT -5
Maybe they're easier to see on a computer monitor than a TV, but unless it's overly obvious it's difficult to see any breaks on it.
It's the same with the ball on the fairway working out the angle it's sitting on. Sure you can watch it roll out and see if it veers one way or the other, or use the low camera to see if it's above or below the golfer's feet, but it still doesn't give as much idea as you get standing there over a real ball on a golf course. How is it more realistic getting less information than you do in reality?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 9:28:09 GMT -5
Maybe they're easier to see on a computer monitor than a TV, but unless it's overly obvious it's difficult to see any breaks on it. It's the same with the ball on the fairway working out the angle it's sitting on. Sure you can watch it roll out and see if it veers one way or the other, or use the low camera to see if it's above or below the golfer's feet, but it still doesn't give as much idea as you get standing there over a real ball on a golf course. How is it more realistic getting less information than you do in reality? I really don't understand your argument when no grid putting is still quite considerably easier for good no grid putters than the PGA Tour. PGA Tour last season 1 putt stats 5-10 foot range from 25% to 30% where top PC TST putters range from 86% to rob4950's 89% from 859 medium putts, yes Rob holes 9 out of 10 putts from 5 foot to 10 foot which is fantastic. Now let's look at the PGA Tour 1 putt stats from 10 to 15 foot which range from 10% to 15% holed. TST you are looking at way above that percentage when TST's best putters are just north of 20% of 1 putts holed over 10 foot, a percentage all putts over 10 foot. So a good no grid putter holes 1 in 5 putts over 10 foot.. Hardly tougher than PGA Tour putting and it is absolute rubbish that greens are unreadable with grids off. It is the most realistic part of the game. I can't be bothered to look at the crazy high 1 putt hole out rate with grids on. My current USE season medium putts 85%, long Putts 16% and that's with no marker and master swing difficulty. There is no feeling better in this game than holing a long putt without grids imo including hole outs. |
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Post by oswinner on Sept 14, 2022 10:53:04 GMT -5
Maybe they're easier to see on a computer monitor than a TV, but unless it's overly obvious it's difficult to see any breaks on it. It's the same with the ball on the fairway working out the angle it's sitting on. Sure you can watch it roll out and see if it veers one way or the other, or use the low camera to see if it's above or below the golfer's feet, but it still doesn't give as much idea as you get standing there over a real ball on a golf course. How is it more realistic getting less information than you do in reality? You do realise that pros mis-read putts in real life too? It’s not supposed to be easy. But it’s very doable in this game. In fact, I think I mis-read more putts in real life lol. Try reading the whole outlook of the green not just the putting line if you’re struggling. |
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 14, 2022 15:45:49 GMT -5
That's great. I've just lost enjoyment of it, but I will try it again in the new game when I get it and see if it's a bit different/better. You can't replicate the 3D situation of a real golf course on a 2D screen, it's like watching golf on TV and seeing balls curl around on what look like flat surfaces because it's a TV screen.
I'm well aware of pros missing a lot of putts, and misreading them at times, I watch the DP World tour most weeks. I have less trouble reading greens in real golf than in tst settings on here. I don't always get the pace right but the line itself usually is. I had a bit of a 2k21 putting round on Sunday when I played. 10 putts on the front 9 with a chip in birdie, 25 overall for the round. Wouldn't it be nice to do that every time 🤣
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Post by martbloke on Sept 16, 2022 3:37:22 GMT -5
Had a mare for my rd 1 back 9 which killed me off early doors. +12 on that back 9 it was - oof! Otherwise didn't do too bad, nowhere near the Egyptian creepy avatar 🤣, but not too bad. Nice enough course but my ball loves the water!!! I'm so inconsistent haha. I was under par through the 1st few holes of rd 1, to blow it. Under par at times through rd 2 & 3, then blew it. Finally made it stick and should've done even better in rd 4.
+12, +1, +2, -3 = +12 overall.
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Post by fransslabak on Sept 16, 2022 6:08:41 GMT -5
-4, -13, -6, -5 for -28 for me
Had to play silly fast because this week is a bit of a mess schedule-wise and thus I lost tempo every few holes, but I kinda enjoyed playing on Masters I must say.
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Post by martbloke on Sept 16, 2022 14:55:22 GMT -5
-4, -13, -6, -5 for -28 for me Had to play silly fast because this week is a bit of a mess schedule-wise and thus I lost tempo every few holes, but I kinda enjoyed playing on Masters I must say. Nice! I think it helps with wide fairways. If we play a course with more narrow fairways, all hell will break loose haha 🤣 |
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Post by Tombanator on Sept 17, 2022 10:07:06 GMT -5
Okay, so this was my first TST practice event I played. Took the last almost 2 weeks off (slacker!) because I haven't been feeling it and I've been wanting to put some time into other stuff while I now can. Also, decided to make a last-minute inclusion to this event because... well, it's an option and I could actually do that for once.
Couple of points and conclusions I can make personally from this week, let's see how these are holding up going forward:
1. I should never ever show up to these Master events with that kind of break rust and no rounds in me. It leads to me starting off with +4 and +6. Hitting plenty of red, seeing red. A rare perfect might be spottable, but hitting the grey area just seems near impossible. Good news is I saw just one extreme miss of tempo in like 8 rounds today which is actually surprising to me. Tempo seems slightly like a lottery at points but after a few rounds I could tell that most misses did seem to make sense again.
2. Once I actually do get warmed up and feel good about myself (went to shoot 4 rounds on this week's farewell event for -31 which might be my best score on Master 4 rounders), it's not all that bad once I was able to get a few shots to go my way. Came back for last 2 rounds and shot -7, -6. Putting could use a touch of being better, although some pins were just a kick in the groin. I see you there, 17th in round 4, putted from right side of the pin from 17 feet and a foot up, ended up sliding back down to 20 feet with a foot up on the left side.
3. The course might have helped some, it didn't feel awfully tough. The second point might see a slight revision next week depending on what goes on then.
4. Based on previous points, my previous more casual approach might no longer be a most viable option and I have to actually put time into sessions again to get myself going. Fair enough I suppose with a higher difficulty, just wondering how I'd have to go about it if I don't have a bunch of time to invest.
Trying again next week probably. Let's see how things look like then.
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Post by oswinner on Sept 19, 2022 2:38:16 GMT -5
End of Tournament StatsPlayers: 57 Average Score: 68.0 (-4.0) Fairways Hit: 61.9% Greens Hit: 67.2% Putts per Hole: 1.50 Scrambling: 71.0%
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Post by paddyjk19 on Sept 26, 2022 10:05:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I get all those things, but I have had plenty of occasions where the flag leans and it's still straight, it looks like there's slope but there isn't, and vice versa. It just gets frustrating eventually. I'll check it out in the new game, maybe there's something a bit different with the graphics that makes the slopes a little easier to see, who knows. But like in real golf I'd like to be reasonably confident of my line before I putt, that's what's enjoyable when it drops, knowing you have read it well. Another tip is do a swing rehearsal with the putter, if it swings on a really inside path it’s right to left break, if it goes straight back or veering towards outside path it’s left to right. I use that if I’m unsure of the break. All the putters sit with the toe up in the air even on flat, instead look at the relation of the base of the putter in relation to the soles of the avatars feet, another sure indicator. Use the flat line of your screen edge at the bottom for reference. Also look at the far right and left of your screen, on bigger breaks one side will be higher. Look at the cup in relation to the screen bottom instead of in relation to the putter head or the avatar. Hope that helps! |
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