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Post by chatgptgolfklubber2.0 on Aug 24, 2022 21:32:11 GMT -5
When designing a course, does the plot and general direction of the holes predominantly run north/south?
When setting up a round, I've found a North wind usually but not always, is at your back. I like to play with my winds usually coming off the coast for immersion purposes if possible.
Is there a foolproof way of figuring this out or is every plot just too different?
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Post by cer1949 on Aug 25, 2022 20:31:34 GMT -5
You determine where you place holes on your plot and which direction the holes run. You can pull up the compass icon in the design program by hitting the Edit button twice. This will show you the directions (N, S, E and W) in relation to your plot. See this screenshot: The default wind direction is North (I believe) so, in this screenshot, the wind will be blowing toward the left bottom corner. I don't know if you can change the default wind direction in the design program. But you can manually change wind direction in the game for any round. See the following screenshot: If your concern is to have your "default" wind direction blow from the coast, and the default wind is to the north, you would have to place your holes on the south side of the land plot to have a south coast, which would be the top of the screen in the first screenshot. This may or may not be an option because the ocean may be located only on the north side of the land plot in some of the themes. If, however, you design with your plot in an "island" configuration, you will have water all around and you can place your holes on any side of the plot. I assume anyone who is concerned about the wind direction will just change it in the game. They don't have to play my default conditions. But some designers like for their default conditions to represent how they would suggest their course be played. So I understand why you are asking. I don't know if this answers your question.
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Post by chatgptgolfklubber2.0 on Aug 25, 2022 22:29:38 GMT -5
cer1949: Thanks for the very detailed and informative answer. Unfortunately I'm not designing a course lol.
What I mean, is when starting a round, it would be nice to know what type of wind you will mostly get. Helping/hurting or cross winds. I'm aware you can change this in the conditions settings.
Maybe it's too hard of a question to answer because every course is different. Most of the courses play good and different in all directions which is cool. Sometimes I just feel like bombing drives downhill or fighting the wind all round for a different experience. I know all holes don't run in the same direction but some courses, especially out and back links styles one kinda do.
It would be nice if H.B. added a wind setting describing this feel instead of just giving you directions but with the randomness of user courses it would probably be too hard to code.
And does north wind mean the wind blows FROM the north or TOWARDS the north??
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Post by cer1949 on Aug 26, 2022 13:08:25 GMT -5
So you asked how to start your car and I told you how to build the engine. I've been accused of that before. Let me try again. Open the course you want to play in the game using the default course settings. Now as you stand on the first tee, check the wind gauge and note the wind direction - is it right to left, left to right, in your face, etc? That should be the default wind. And I believe that to be North, meaning it blows toward the North. If that is not the direction you want, you should be able to figure out what wind direction you need. For example, if the default wind is blowing left to right and the default wind is North, and you want it to blow right to left, you need to change it to South. You can exit the game, make that change and start over. If the first tee is not on the coast and you want a prevailing wind blowing from the water, you can push F10 while on the first tee and it will let you "fly around the course" to locate the position(s) of the coastal holes and the water. By comparing those to the angle of the first tee, you should be able to figure out the direction needed to create a prevailing wind blowing off the water toward land. If there's an easier method, I'm not aware of it. Designers do not uniformly use the same starting points and routing directions on land plots, so there is no general rule for which direction the wind will be blowing in relation to the angle of the holes. It may always be North, but on any given tee it could be LR, RL, headwind, tailwind or quartering wind. Hope that helps.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Aug 26, 2022 13:27:44 GMT -5
There's no default wind direction. It's random. It varies day to day and server to server. You can change the compass direction of your course by changing the orientation of the sun. This only affects wind direction when it's manually set by the player. It'll also affect the sunrise/set so if someone were to change time of day it'll raise or lower the sun in that path.
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Post by chatgptgolfklubber2.0 on Aug 26, 2022 15:24:01 GMT -5
I play on PS4, so I can't do the F10 trick. You can aim with a driver and look around somewhat but not nearly to the extent of PC. In TGC 19 you could zoom around to your heart's content, which I really miss.
I guess it's really just a trial and error thing and restarting the round if I don't like the wind direction is the only option. At least the game loads pretty fast. Thanks for the help guys!
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Post by gforce41 on Sept 2, 2022 14:10:48 GMT -5
There's no default wind direction. It's random. It varies day to day and server to server. You can change the compass direction of your course by changing the orientation of the sun. This only affects wind direction when it's manually set by the player. It'll also affect the sunrise/set so if someone were to change time of day it'll raise or lower the sun in that path. Exactly. Thank you for pointing this out. I think this is often overlooked, especially when folks do a "review" or playthrough, or even setting up tournament rounds. That's why I always try to point out a suggested wind direction when I publish a course, and/or suggest an easy or tough wind direction. Some folks think when the leave it at "default" before starting a round, it's a "default" wind direction that the designer set...which unfortunately you can't do.
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Sept 30, 2022 14:35:41 GMT -5
I like to check the current weather conditions for the location of any RCR I play, and set the wind to match
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Post by paddyjk19 on Sept 30, 2022 19:23:22 GMT -5
Typically with all my RCRs I beta test every wind direction at very high and then when publishing I’ll suggest which winds play easiest and which play hardest so tournament organisers can reference (not that they have to or do). On most courses it balances out but there’s a few real life links where a prevailing wind is a nightmare but when it switches round it’s a much easier course. For that reason a fictional designer might design a high wind course with a certain wind direction in mind, I’m sure some already have!
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