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Post by abpg1812 on Aug 23, 2022 16:49:00 GMT -5
I am in the process of building my first links style course and would like to know what are some of the best links courses that have been built in the game I can go play and study? Obviously do not want to steal anyone work, just trying to learn this style of course design. Any recommendations are appreciated.
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Post by blueblood1995 on Aug 23, 2022 23:01:36 GMT -5
Some of my very favourites in alphabeltical order as follows...
* Ardcraig * Forehaven-on-Sea * Hillyshill Walking Club * Kildonan New * Kingsate * Muraisc Cuan Mo * Old Ainsdale GC * Oranmore Gofl Links * Rath at Scarden Beg * Rossmackowen Gofl Links * Royal St. William's GC * Shearwater Sands * Shoreditch * St. Cyrus * Tor * Zuyderzee Golf Links
Hope this helps!
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Post by abpg1812 on Aug 24, 2022 7:08:31 GMT -5
Some of my very favourites in alphabeltical order as follows... * Ardcraig * Forehaven-on-Sea * Hillyshill Walking Club * Kildonan New * Kingsate * Muraisc Cuan Mo * Old Ainsdale GC * Oranmore Gofl Links * Rath at Scarden Beg * Rossmackowen Gofl Links * Royal St. William's GC * Shearwater Sands * Shoreditch * St. Cyrus * Tor * Zuyderzee Golf Links Hope this helps! Thank you for these blueblood, I will most definitely check them out. Very much appreciated.
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Post by yeltzman on Aug 24, 2022 14:15:19 GMT -5
If you are making a "True" Links type course and not a fictional one only two courses you need to check out. Royal Cinque Ports or Rye(old) Can't go wrong there on those 2 courses everything you need. If you are interested in True links article below only roughly 250 in the world, more courses to check out. link
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Post by chatgptgolfklubber2.0 on Aug 24, 2022 21:24:38 GMT -5
U.K. style fictional you could add
Kairos Balter G.C. Royal Beardshaw
U.K. RCRs
Royal County Down Cruden Bay Lahinch (2019 Irish Open) St Enodoc GC, Cornwall (L) Royal St. Georges Royal Birkdale Carnoustie Kingsbarns, modern and somewhat man made with the sculpting
American style
Peconic Fields GC Sand Hills
Use of the ground game is an essential criteria.
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Post by cer1949 on Aug 24, 2022 22:24:08 GMT -5
Links courses tend to share a few basic characteristics - natural coastal strips of land situated between beaches and agricultural areas with sandy soil that drains well, firm fairways and greens, few if any trees, pot bunkers which originally helped prevent sand from blowing away, naturally undulating ground features because very little earth was moved to create the original courses, land features that permit golf to be played low to the ground to avoid the effects of high winds (thus the "ground game" mentioned by others which is typified by transitions between fairway and green that permit the ball to be rolled on to greens), a variety of coastal grasses like native marram and fescue with deep roots which produce deep rough with wispy long grass that wraps around your club, few water hazards (although one sees the occasional burn and there is, of course, the ocean), and a less manicured, more natural appearance. For computer gaming purposes, however, you might focus on a different characteristic that is often overlooked. The vast majority of links courses are found in Scotland, Ireland and England. These courses tend to sit on smaller tracts. St. Andrews Old Course, for example, was designed to sit on 92 acres. The average acreage for a UK golf course is around 45 HA (111 acres). By contrast, the average acreage of golf courses in the U.S. is in the 120-200 acre range. The difference in size has a significant effect on routing. Holes tend to be closer together in the UK. In the US, many courses (Pine Valley and Shoal Creek, for example) were designed so that the golfer would see only the hole he/she was playing. This is rarely the case for a links course. For one thing there are few if any trees to block the sight lines, and the holes tend to play closer together. UK Courses - Average AcreageYou might want to try b101's routing challenge to gain an appreciation for routing a tract that approximates what one might find for a links course.
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Post by abpg1812 on Aug 25, 2022 9:42:08 GMT -5
I really appreciate all the responses so far to this. Really was more than I expecting and I mean that in a good way. I do have knowledge of links course architecture and style. I am a avid golf fan and golf architecture fan, but me being an American I knew it would be foolish of me to not seek the advice of others who have infinitely more knowledge about this style so again I thank everyone who has responded with courses and descriptions of links style courses. I started this course about a month ago and I’m going for more of the traditional links style in both appearance and play. I committed to the idea of not settling on a plot until I could find 18 holes in the land. The size of the course and routing are of the traditional style as you can see many of the other holes from the one you are playing. I only have one Picture so far of the par 3 7th I will provide. Please let me know what you think and continue to post info that can help me along the way on this design.
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Post by heyesed on Oct 19, 2022 15:53:17 GMT -5
Links courses tend to share a few basic characteristics - natural coastal strips of land situated between beaches and agricultural areas with sandy soil that drains well, firm fairways and greens, few if any trees, pot bunkers which originally helped prevent sand from blowing away, naturally undulating ground features because very little earth was moved to create the original courses, land features that permit golf to be played low to the ground to avoid the effects of high winds (thus the "ground game" mentioned by others which is typified by transitions between fairway and green that permit the ball to be rolled on to greens), a variety of coastal grasses like native marram and fescue with deep roots which produce deep rough with wispy long grass that wraps around your club, few water hazards (although one sees the occasional burn and there is, of course, the ocean), and a less manicured, more natural appearance. For computer gaming purposes, however, you might focus on a different characteristic that is often overlooked. The vast majority of links courses are found in Scotland, Ireland and England. These courses tend to sit on smaller tracts. St. Andrews Old Course, for example, was designed to sit on 92 acres. The average acreage for a UK golf course is around 45 HA (111 acres). By contrast, the average acreage of golf courses in the U.S. is in the 120-200 acre range. The difference in size has a significant effect on routing. Holes tend to be closer together in the UK. In the US, many courses (Pine Valley and Shoal Creek, for example) were designed so that the golfer would see only the hole he/she was playing. This is rarely the case for a links course. For one thing there are few if any trees to block the sight lines, and the holes tend to play closer together. UK Courses - Average AcreageYou might want to try b101's routing challenge to gain an appreciation for routing a tract that approximates what one might find for a links course. Thank you for such a detailed description and explanation of how to build courses correctly. I would like to use it in my next little research paper in the form of an essay, I've already seen such examples on Samplius and would like to do something similar myself. I'd also be interested in learning more about other types of courses or reading about the same in a similarly detailed description. It would help me tremendously in writing and could spend less time gathering information.
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Post by boynsy on Oct 20, 2022 4:26:28 GMT -5
Probably worth noting too that in a UK style links course, the ocean very rarely actually comes into play. The boundary of the course is often 100 yards or more from the shoreline, but you almost always get fantastic views out to sea without it actually coming into play. Look at the golf courses in Sandwich, Kent (Prince’s, Royal St George’s, Royal Cinque Ports) and Scotland.
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