slottie
Weekend Golfer
Nazca Sandhills... go play it you fools
Posts: 95
TGCT Name: Oliver Slot
Tour: Kinetic
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Post by slottie on Jul 16, 2021 20:51:25 GMT -5
Hey guys haven't been on the forums in a while, haven't even touched the designer in ages as lifespan's been crazy atm. Really wanna get out a CC course and have 18 surfaced holes that I'm happy with after a suitable amount of ripping up. Theres just one hole that I keep thinking is just not there. Ive tried from my memory everything that I've seen recommended, I've played with ideas, rerouted, reshaped, tried to fit in templates, even tried to fit in templates from courses on this game. Nothing seems to work it feels really awkward and Im stuck. Any ideas welcome. Cheers
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Post by rjwils30 on Jul 16, 2021 22:38:57 GMT -5
I hear ya. There’s always a hole like that on my courses. One I just can’t get right and that I rip up a bunch of times. Sometimes it’s the land the hole sits on or the configuration of the hole within the routing that just presents an awkward situation. In some cases I’ve changed holes around it to get a better teeing angle or green site. Sometimes I reroute a sequence of holes if I have to. If that’s not an option just play around with the land until something interesting comes about. Are you sticking to a specific topo or are you free to change the land?
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Post by b101 on Jul 17, 2021 0:37:53 GMT -5
Odds are, you won't ever have 18 holes that you are 100% happy with - I certainly haven't ever had that on any of my courses. Gets to a point where you make a few of them 'good enough' and move on. Up to that point, my go-to moves are to move the greensite, move the tee, change the angle or bunker positioning. My last port of call is usually to change the land as generally that'll affect other holes. The other thing I try to be aware of is how changing this one hole might affect others - you don't want to do the same thing as another hole, but worse. Oh, final thing would be to make sure that you're going with what the course/routing needs. If you don't have many mid par fours, for example, and nothing is coming easily with that one hole, might as well make it a mid par four and fit the bigger picture. Equally, you sometimes need a transition hole in order to allow you to have a certain hole / a number of others really shine elsewhere in the routing.
11 at Strathlorne is one that leaps out as a hole I was never totally happy with - redid it so many times, changing length, angle, greensite, you name it and either found myself repeating ideas I'd done better elsewhere on the course or it felt forced. But having 10 and 11 where they were was what made the overall routing work and allow me to link environments, work back to the cliffs in a different direction and work through an awkward part of the plot. So I just went with a skyline green (hadn't had one before) and challenging a mid iron with a relatively easy drive (as I hadn't had too many of them). I'd say that it's the weakest of the 18, but it's solid and allowed so many other holes to shine.
P.S. if you do it well, the holes that you dislike might just end up as someone else's favourites. I've definitely also had that happen.
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Post by tylerw371 on Jul 17, 2021 7:11:52 GMT -5
Hey guys haven't been on the forums in a while, haven't even touched the designer in ages as lifespan's been crazy atm. Really wanna get out a CC course and have 18 surfaced holes that I'm happy with after a suitable amount of ripping up. Theres just one hole that I keep thinking is just not there. Ive tried from my memory everything that I've seen recommended, I've played with ideas, rerouted, reshaped, tried to fit in templates, even tried to fit in templates from courses on this game. Nothing seems to work it feels really awkward and Im stuck. Any ideas welcome. Cheers Put it outside as a beta and have some plays on it. If we can guess the hole you're having difficulties with, maybe tweak some more. If it can't really be pinpointed, I'd say release it. It's hard to not internalize and to avoid overthinking when you spending countless hours on the same course. Maybe it's your best damn hole!
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Post by cd06 on Jul 17, 2021 7:14:50 GMT -5
Hey guys haven't been on the forums in a while, haven't even touched the designer in ages as lifespan's been crazy atm. Really wanna get out a CC course and have 18 surfaced holes that I'm happy with after a suitable amount of ripping up. Theres just one hole that I keep thinking is just not there. Ive tried from my memory everything that I've seen recommended, I've played with ideas, rerouted, reshaped, tried to fit in templates, even tried to fit in templates from courses on this game. Nothing seems to work it feels really awkward and Im stuck. Any ideas welcome. Cheers Put it outside as a beta and have some plays on it. If we can guess the hole you're having difficulties with, maybe tweak some more. If it can't really be pinpointed, I'd say release it. It's hard to not internalize and to avoid overthinking when you spending countless hours on the same course. Maybe it's your best damn hole! No betas allowed for CC contest.
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Post by tylerw371 on Jul 17, 2021 7:17:38 GMT -5
Oh I guess I kind of glossed over that part. Sorry.
But the psychological aspect still applies. Good luck!
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slottie
Weekend Golfer
Nazca Sandhills... go play it you fools
Posts: 95
TGCT Name: Oliver Slot
Tour: Kinetic
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Post by slottie on Jul 17, 2021 10:05:57 GMT -5
Thanks all I'll give it a go, think if anyone played it it would be quite obvious it just feels clunky, but Im thinking of leaving it for a week and coming back to it cos its really set me off track.
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