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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 9:26:46 GMT -5
i see people with under 300 WGR playing on the 5th worst tour. This to me doesnt make much sense. My suggestion is to have mandatory tour upgrades for people who are playing in a tour that doesnt match their WGR. How the logistics work out is entirely up to TGC tours STAFF. But you would at least hope the top 150 would be on the PGA/Euro. 150-300 web A 300-450, 450-600-web B 650-800 webc 800-950 champ a, and 950 - an above champ B. I think this would keep the competition equal and fair. And stop over skilled (per tour) from staying in lower tours just to win. Just a suggestion on how
To keep the feild fair. The leaders from web c should not be puting up the same numbers as the web a flight. Thanks for listening.
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Post by Doyley on Apr 21, 2015 10:01:15 GMT -5
To be honest - the leaders of the Web c are better or equal to the bottom half of web-a.
The rankings are pretty accurate but you have to remember that there's still a small sample size and there's lots of people that haven't played all events vs those that have
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Post by rod81simo on Apr 21, 2015 10:22:13 GMT -5
I think it works great and the implementation of it is needed if we are to continue to mimic the real life tours. I think it is fair and accurate and will only get better and more stable the further we go into our careers..... Not only is it needed for entry criteria for certain events but it also gives us players something else to strive for week in week out. Strong vote for the YES from me
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Post by dh-nufc on Apr 21, 2015 11:19:31 GMT -5
I think it's fair that it will take time for the ranking to settle down but I'd like to see slightly fairer tours with more even players. Every tour seems to have its elite players in and the difference in scoring is probably too great. Using the World Rankings sounds like a good place to start. The only issue is with new members. Some people improve so quickly that they will finish Q-school with a poor score but then in a week they are shooting low 60s! I'm not sure how you would deal with that.
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 11:57:32 GMT -5
To be honest - the leaders of the Web c are better or equal to the bottom half of web-a. The rankings are pretty accurate but you have to remember that there's still a small sample size and there's lots of people that haven't played all events vs those that have . The leaders of web C shot -11. That puts them close to the top of web a |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 11:57:59 GMT -5
I think it's fair that it will take time for the ranking to settle down but I'd like to see slightly fairer tours with more even players. Every tour seems to have its elite players in and the difference in scoring is probably too great. Using the World Rankings sounds like a good place to start. The only issue is with new members. Some people improve so quickly that they will finish Q-school with a poor score but then in a week they are shooting low 60s! I'm not sure how you would deal with that. |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 12:01:21 GMT -5
I think it's fair that it will take time for the ranking to settle down but I'd like to see slightly fairer tours with more even players. Every tour seems to have its elite players in and the difference in scoring is probably too great. Using the World Rankings sounds like a good place to start. The only issue is with new members. Some people improve so quickly that they will finish Q-school with a poor score but then in a week they are shooting low 60s! I'm not sure how you would deal with that. I think battlefeild promotions and sponsorship exempts should be mandatory. Would promote moving up to the division best suited. That way people in champ a b. Shooting 59,60,61 are forced up to where they really should be. |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 12:20:02 GMT -5
To be honest - the leaders of the Web c are better or equal to the bottom half of web-a. The rankings are pretty accurate but you have to remember that there's still a small sample size and there's lots of people that haven't played all events vs those that have . Web c has people ranked in the 200"s. And people ranked in 1100 thats not fair for everyone to have a run at the winner circle. Or ever having a chance to improve enough to compete. Im not here saying anyone is doing anything wrong, but here saying how it can be better. |
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 21, 2015 12:34:16 GMT -5
Voted No. Don't think tour cards should be handed out based on WGR as its a separate system. Would take TGCT too far away from the real tour set ups and would create a class of players in limbo between two tours. Do agree that exemptions and battlefield promotions should be mandatory, and maybe would be useful with the amendment that getting 3 exemptions in some time period leads to a battlefield promotion as well. That should stop people from shooting low one week and sandbagging the next. That sort of behavior should lead to a ban regardless as its against the spirit of the game.
Don't get why people would want to sandbag for finishing high on the fourth tier tour? Only place where winning matters is on the PGA and Euro tour or maybe even only Majors and WGCs as that is when the best players come together - and that is the only field that can be kept 100% "fair". There will always be players "moving through" on the lower tiers, so winning scores will always be low.
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 13:02:36 GMT -5
Voted No. Don't think tour cards should be handed out based on WGR as its a separate system. Would take TGCT too far away from the real tour set ups and would create a class of players in limbo between two tours. Do agree that exemptions and battlefield promotions should be mandatory, and maybe would be useful with the amendment that getting 3 exemptions in some time period leads to a battlefield promotion as well. That should stop people from shooting low one week and sandbagging the next. That sort of behavior should lead to a ban regardless as its against the spirit of the game. Don't get why people would want to sandbag for finishing high on the fourth tier tour? Only place where winning matters is on the PGA and Euro tour or maybe even only Majors and WGCs as that is when the best players come together - and that is the only field that can be kept 100% "fair". There will always be players "moving through" on the lower tiers, so winning scores will always be low. . Q school would ultimatly place you on your tour. What,im sugesting would just stop people from tanking in qschool to get on an easier tour. This way those people are advanced accordinlgy to how they place on the tour they tanked to get on. Pga/euro is not all that matters because people try and work there way up to those tours by battlefield promotion which is impossible i you have a guy who should be on the pga/euro tour. On the web c tour. Winning the everytime. Tere seems tonbe 2-3 on every web champ tour that score well below the rest and they just happen to be the ones ranked way higher than the average on the tour. |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 13:32:14 GMT -5
To be honest - the leaders of the Web c are better or equal to the bottom half of web-a. The rankings are pretty accurate but you have to remember that there's still a small sample size and there's lots of people that haven't played all events vs those that have . In the tournament going on now web c has a leader a -11 and the web a leader is -13. putting the web c people (4 tied at -11) in the top 10 on the tour two stages up. |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 13:50:22 GMT -5
Everyone to win on the web C tour is at highest a 300 WGR. Most below 240 ranking. So having these people on te 5 worst tour is ruining it for anyone trying to earn a btfld promotion. These people should be on pga/euro tour. Not to mention the people on champ B the lowest tour is beig won by people with 600 WGR at the highest.
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Post by Doyley on Apr 21, 2015 14:02:52 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 14:43:37 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least. Its pretty clear my friend. The people with te low ranking are winning at the low levels all the way up to pga. Thus making WGR more accuarte than anything else. WGR keep it fair. |
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 14:50:31 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least. Its pretty clear my friend. The people with te low ranking are winning at the low levels all the way up to pga. Thus making WGR more accuarte than anything else. WGR keep it fair. . Cool well just trying to help. And as of now 8 to 1 looks like people are agreeing. Although its a small number voted. Thanks for the chat and have a good one |
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