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Post by turkmcgill on Apr 13, 2021 13:27:56 GMT -5
My first course was rejected for TGC Tours, in part because "all of my par 5 holes were driver + 3 wood + pitch" (I wanted them to be reachable in 2). Based on that comment I decided to make a tougher hole for my next course. It's slightly downhill and to make it harder I had to keep making it longer and longer. I finally got it to driver + 3 wood + 6 iron... But when I checked the total distance for the hole it's 736 yards!!
Is that too long? The game defaulted to a par 6, but I moved it back to a par 5.
NOTE: My driver defaults to about 290 yards. (But with the hill, and no wind, my drives on the hole are about 330.)
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Post by lessthanbread on Apr 13, 2021 14:39:31 GMT -5
Short answer, yeah that's a bit of a poke at 736. A good headwind and you won't be reaching that in 3. In my opinion, a good par 5 is less about the distance and more about keeping the shots interesting. Try this: Mark where your actual tee boxes will be (generally) then move down range about 280 or so (sorta average driver distance depending on elevation) and then build a short par 4 from that spot. This will put you in the mindset of keeping that second shot interesting. You can think, do I want this par 4 to be "drivable" or play to strategic/challenging areas short of the green for a pitch in with a safer option further back for a full wedge.
You could even take that idea further and decide where you would put the tee boxes for that par 4 and have those be your target options off the actual tees for the par 5
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Post by turkmcgill on Apr 13, 2021 15:14:21 GMT -5
That's a very interesting suggestion. Thank you!
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Post by cd06 on Apr 14, 2021 4:20:36 GMT -5
For all I've tested, I've never made a par 6 or par 7 and the longest I've pushed a par five to in practice is about 650 yards. I wouldn't go over 670 unless its absolutely necessary though.
On the other end of the spectrum I dont usually push a par five below 510 on a flatter plot, but if I have a highly uphill hole I could take it down to 480 or 490 potentially.
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Post by scootmcgoot on Apr 14, 2021 5:45:10 GMT -5
I think it depends on your elevation changes. A 575 yd par 5 is fairly decent and could potentially be reachable in 2 with the right slopes and downhill as could a 635 yd par 5. They could also be 3 shotters into a wind or uphill. You also have to look at where bunkers are off the tee and other hazards (split fairways, water, etc) and whether someone could reach a green in 3 if they hit that bunker. Personally I wouldn’t go anything over about 625-635 yds on a relatively flat plot. But the key to any par 5 is keeping that 2d shot interesting. Just bombing it down the fairway and then to a layup area and then to a green isn’t really that fun. Make me think abt WHERE I want to either (or both).
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Post by alejandroacantilado on Apr 14, 2021 11:57:19 GMT -5
18 at Kapalua is about 680 and reachable, but it's effectively routed down a ski-slope and downgrain. 9 at Kapalua 550 and a three shot hole, unless the trade winds switch to the Kona winds. But the design is great, so they can be played in any conditions.
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