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Post by Demonondalinks on Jan 19, 2022 20:01:46 GMT -5
I just don’t get how you elite guys score so well. I absolutely took my time and worked hard on my approach shots in. These greens are hard this week. -1 1st rd and +3 rd 2. Absolutely stinking it up. Maybe I need to play with a ghost and see what y’all do. If you press the "Y" button you can scout the hole. No need for a ghost. You may know this already, as you should but it can help. 🔥play demon's hellion🔥 It's Digsb approved
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Post by Demonondalinks on Jan 19, 2022 20:07:57 GMT -5
Tempo is the issue. I feel like I'm consistent with the way I swing. Last night for instance, I was swinging the driver well off the tee - mostly perfect's and then 3 drives in a row - Red slow's. I'm sorry - WHAT? Even if I try practice swings - I almost always get a grey fast - address the ball and its a red fast or grey slow. I really wish there was a button to break a club over your knee! To piggy back on what Craig said, it's called Tempo, but in reality, it's transition. Every golf game before this one we have pulled back on the joystick and then slammed it forward as fast as we can. If you do that in this game as we have learned, you get a very red fast. Most of my red slows come from dragging my thumb forward in an attempt to try and not be fast. The key is a smooth transition between back swing and forward swing. You can pull back and wait a few seconds like the 105% people do, but when you move the joystick forward, it has to be done so smoothly. I'm in no way elite, but one of the things I try to do is not allow the two way miss. If I don't have my perfect then I want a red fast. That way I can play a bit off my target and even a miss doesn't kill me on "most" holes. To piggy back off of what Koop said, you do have to look and see where the trouble is and avoid it like the plague. If there is water on the right, I'd rather be in the left rough than in the water. Does that mean I am probably not going to get a birdie on this hole? Maybe, but it also helps eliminate Bogies. For those players that are struggling to get under par each round, I would suggest a change in mindset. Quit thinking about how many birdies you want and instead think about how many bogies, double bogies and triple bogies you don't want. If you play a par 4 really well, you 'may' get a birdie and gain 1 stroke. if you play it poorly, it's very easy to double bogie and lose 2 strokes. To piggy back off what Dave said, attack the easy holes. On a par 5, I am always thinking Eagle. But if I have a Red Fast drive,I immediately change that expectation to birdie. on a par 72 course, that's 4 birdies. And then like he said, maybe a couple easy holes and good shots on par threes and you get a couple more birdies. By eliminating the bogies, that's -6 or -7. but if you have 8 birdies, 2 double bogies and three bogies, that turns into a round of -1. So back to what I was saying. If you focus on not getting bogies, the birdies will come and your scores will show it. That's what I did when I was playing Master difficulty to improve. Once you get to the point where you minimize your bogies, another mindset is to realize you can't chase a -10 on every hole. So, if you get a bogey on the first hole or you start out with 4 straight pars, stay the course. My goal is to shoot -5 on the front and -5 on the back every round. Sometimes I meet it and sometimes I don't. Sometime I'm -1 after 9, but I still have a goal of -5 on the back and try to get my -6. Then sometimes I am -8 on the front, I still have a goal of -5 on the back and that's where the occasional -13 or -14 come from. I guess my point is whether you are playing golf in real life or on your xbox, it's still about 80% mental. The other 20% in real golf is probably talent and the other 20% on Xbox is probably how hard you can throw your controller. LOL In this weeks Major. I had three bogies in my four rounds. And I wasn't happy with those LOL. Craig only had one. Clarky Cat had 2. and a couple others also ha 3. I'm convinced eliminating mistakes is the first step to improvement. And there is my 2 cents. with inflation gone wild it's now $2
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Post by liebs44 on Jan 19, 2022 22:32:27 GMT -5
Tempo is the issue. I feel like I'm consistent with the way I swing. Last night for instance, I was swinging the driver well off the tee - mostly perfect's and then 3 drives in a row - Red slow's. I'm sorry - WHAT? Even if I try practice swings - I almost always get a grey fast - address the ball and its a red fast or grey slow. I really wish there was a button to break a club over your knee! To piggy back on what Craig said, it's called Tempo, but in reality, it's transition. Every golf game before this one we have pulled back on the joystick and then slammed it forward as fast as we can. If you do that in this game as we have learned, you get a very red fast. Most of my red slows come from dragging my thumb forward in an attempt to try and not be fast. The key is a smooth transition between back swing and forward swing. You can pull back and wait a few seconds like the 105% people do, but when you move the joystick forward, it has to be done so smoothly. I'm in no way elite, but one of the things I try to do is not allow the two way miss. If I don't have my perfect then I want a red fast. That way I can play a bit off my target and even a miss doesn't kill me on "most" holes. To piggy back off of what Koop said, you do have to look and see where the trouble is and avoid it like the plague. If there is water on the right, I'd rather be in the left rough than in the water. Does that mean I am probably not going to get a birdie on this hole? Maybe, but it also helps eliminate Bogies. For those players that are struggling to get under par each round, I would suggest a change in mindset. Quit thinking about how many birdies you want and instead think about how many bogies, double bogies and triple bogies you don't want. If you play a par 4 really well, you 'may' get a birdie and gain 1 stroke. if you play it poorly, it's very easy to double bogie and lose 2 strokes. To piggy back off what Dave said, attack the easy holes. On a par 5, I am always thinking Eagle. But if I have a Red Fast drive,I immediately change that expectation to birdie. on a par 72 course, that's 4 birdies. And then like he said, maybe a couple easy holes and good shots on par threes and you get a couple more birdies. By eliminating the bogies, that's -6 or -7. but if you have 8 birdies, 2 double bogies and three bogies, that turns into a round of -1. So back to what I was saying. If you focus on not getting bogies, the birdies will come and your scores will show it. That's what I did when I was playing Master difficulty to improve. Once you get to the point where you minimize your bogies, another mindset is to realize you can't chase a -10 on every hole. So, if you get a bogey on the first hole or you start out with 4 straight pars, stay the course. My goal is to shoot -5 on the front and -5 on the back every round. Sometimes I meet it and sometimes I don't. Sometime I'm -1 after 9, but I still have a goal of -5 on the back and try to get my -6. Then sometimes I am -8 on the front, I still have a goal of -5 on the back and that's where the occasional -13 or -14 come from. I guess my point is whether you are playing golf in real life or on your xbox, it's still about 80% mental. The other 20% in real golf is probably talent and the other 20% on Xbox is probably how hard you can throw your controller. LOL In this weeks Major. I had three bogies in my four rounds. And I wasn't happy with those LOL. Craig only had one. Clarky Cat had 2. and a couple others also ha 3. I'm convinced eliminating mistakes is the first step to improvement. And there is my 2 cents. Love this post. Thanks so much for all of the advice. Great call on trying to eliminate the bogies or worse. For the most part I’ve done that. I’m just a mostly par guy. This current major has been difficult for me to score. -1, +3, E for the three rounds. I shadowed @hendomedes in Rd3 - nice -9 Craig. But I felt like I played some of my best golf but didn’t score well. I’m really enjoying the courses so far this season more than in CC.
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Post by Nicholas254 on Jan 19, 2022 22:34:03 GMT -5
It also helps if you can actually reach a fairway. I believe it was hole 8 on the second round I couldn’t reach the fairway on. That is completely frustrating.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jan 19, 2022 22:43:44 GMT -5
Tempo is the issue. I feel like I'm consistent with the way I swing. Last night for instance, I was swinging the driver well off the tee - mostly perfect's and then 3 drives in a row - Red slow's. I'm sorry - WHAT? Even if I try practice swings - I almost always get a grey fast - address the ball and its a red fast or grey slow. I really wish there was a button to break a club over your knee! To piggy back on what Craig said, it's called Tempo, but in reality, it's transition. Every golf game before this one we have pulled back on the joystick and then slammed it forward as fast as we can. If you do that in this game as we have learned, you get a very red fast. Most of my red slows come from dragging my thumb forward in an attempt to try and not be fast. The key is a smooth transition between back swing and forward swing. You can pull back and wait a few seconds like the 105% people do, but when you move the joystick forward, it has to be done so smoothly. I'm in no way elite, but one of the things I try to do is not allow the two way miss. If I don't have my perfect then I want a red fast. That way I can play a bit off my target and even a miss doesn't kill me on "most" holes. To piggy back off of what Koop said, you do have to look and see where the trouble is and avoid it like the plague. If there is water on the right, I'd rather be in the left rough than in the water. Does that mean I am probably not going to get a birdie on this hole? Maybe, but it also helps eliminate Bogies. For those players that are struggling to get under par each round, I would suggest a change in mindset. Quit thinking about how many birdies you want and instead think about how many bogies, double bogies and triple bogies you don't want. If you play a par 4 really well, you 'may' get a birdie and gain 1 stroke. if you play it poorly, it's very easy to double bogie and lose 2 strokes. To piggy back off what Dave said, attack the easy holes. On a par 5, I am always thinking Eagle. But if I have a Red Fast drive,I immediately change that expectation to birdie. on a par 72 course, that's 4 birdies. And then like he said, maybe a couple easy holes and good shots on par threes and you get a couple more birdies. By eliminating the bogies, that's -6 or -7. but if you have 8 birdies, 2 double bogies and three bogies, that turns into a round of -1. So back to what I was saying. If you focus on not getting bogies, the birdies will come and your scores will show it. That's what I did when I was playing Master difficulty to improve. Once you get to the point where you minimize your bogies, another mindset is to realize you can't chase a -10 on every hole. So, if you get a bogey on the first hole or you start out with 4 straight pars, stay the course. My goal is to shoot -5 on the front and -5 on the back every round. Sometimes I meet it and sometimes I don't. Sometime I'm -1 after 9, but I still have a goal of -5 on the back and try to get my -6. Then sometimes I am -8 on the front, I still have a goal of -5 on the back and that's where the occasional -13 or -14 come from. I guess my point is whether you are playing golf in real life or on your xbox, it's still about 80% mental. The other 20% in real golf is probably talent and the other 20% on Xbox is probably how hard you can throw your controller. LOL In this weeks Major. I had three bogies in my four rounds. And I wasn't happy with those LOL. Craig only had one. Clarky Cat had 2. and a couple others also ha 3. I'm convinced eliminating mistakes is the first step to improvement. And there is my 2 cents. This is a really excellent post, you're spot on. Staying patient and sticking with it can reap rewards. It doesn't always, but if you don't stay patient it NEVER does! Play each shot on its merits, look at what the course is giving you, and more importantly what it's trying to take from you. This week, pretty much every shot is trying to take something from you, but it didn't take my soul! -8 for the tournament, 4 doubles in total. I'm actually really pleased with how I stuck with it because I proper struggled for tempo and then swing line in the middle two rounds. Any other society I'd have speed golfed and posted +10. Not this one.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jan 19, 2022 22:45:49 GMT -5
It also helps if you can actually reach a fairway. I believe it was hole 8 on the second round I couldn’t reach the fairway on. That is completely frustrating. You can reach it but you've got to hit a perfect. I was in that rough before the fairway twice, but both weren't good shots. It is a long carry in to the wind though, I did think that.
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Post by coggin66 on Jan 20, 2022 0:04:44 GMT -5
To piggy back on what Craig said, it's called Tempo, but in reality, it's transition. Every golf game before this one we have pulled back on the joystick and then slammed it forward as fast as we can. If you do that in this game as we have learned, you get a very red fast. Most of my red slows come from dragging my thumb forward in an attempt to try and not be fast. The key is a smooth transition between back swing and forward swing. You can pull back and wait a few seconds like the 105% people do, but when you move the joystick forward, it has to be done so smoothly. I'm in no way elite, but one of the things I try to do is not allow the two way miss. If I don't have my perfect then I want a red fast. That way I can play a bit off my target and even a miss doesn't kill me on "most" holes. To piggy back off of what Koop said, you do have to look and see where the trouble is and avoid it like the plague. If there is water on the right, I'd rather be in the left rough than in the water. Does that mean I am probably not going to get a birdie on this hole? Maybe, but it also helps eliminate Bogies. For those players that are struggling to get under par each round, I would suggest a change in mindset. Quit thinking about how many birdies you want and instead think about how many bogies, double bogies and triple bogies you don't want. If you play a par 4 really well, you 'may' get a birdie and gain 1 stroke. if you play it poorly, it's very easy to double bogie and lose 2 strokes. To piggy back off what Dave said, attack the easy holes. On a par 5, I am always thinking Eagle. But if I have a Red Fast drive,I immediately change that expectation to birdie. on a par 72 course, that's 4 birdies. And then like he said, maybe a couple easy holes and good shots on par threes and you get a couple more birdies. By eliminating the bogies, that's -6 or -7. but if you have 8 birdies, 2 double bogies and three bogies, that turns into a round of -1. So back to what I was saying. If you focus on not getting bogies, the birdies will come and your scores will show it. That's what I did when I was playing Master difficulty to improve. Once you get to the point where you minimize your bogies, another mindset is to realize you can't chase a -10 on every hole. So, if you get a bogey on the first hole or you start out with 4 straight pars, stay the course. My goal is to shoot -5 on the front and -5 on the back every round. Sometimes I meet it and sometimes I don't. Sometime I'm -1 after 9, but I still have a goal of -5 on the back and try to get my -6. Then sometimes I am -8 on the front, I still have a goal of -5 on the back and that's where the occasional -13 or -14 come from. I guess my point is whether you are playing golf in real life or on your xbox, it's still about 80% mental. The other 20% in real golf is probably talent and the other 20% on Xbox is probably how hard you can throw your controller. LOL In this weeks Major. I had three bogies in my four rounds. And I wasn't happy with those LOL. Craig only had one. Clarky Cat had 2. and a couple others also ha 3. I'm convinced eliminating mistakes is the first step to improvement. And there is my 2 cents. This is a really excellent post, you're spot on. Staying patient and sticking with it can reap rewards. It doesn't always, but if you don't stay patient it NEVER does! Play each shot on its merits, look at what the course is giving you, and more importantly what it's trying to take from you. This week, pretty much every shot is trying to take something from you, but it didn't take my soul! -8 for the tournament, 4 doubles in total. I'm actually really pleased with how I stuck with it because I proper struggled for tempo and then swing line in the middle two rounds. Any other society I'd have speed golfed and posted +10. Not this one. Agreed ... but Alan does seem to like riding those piggies!
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Jan 20, 2022 5:10:38 GMT -5
Alan has pretty much posted the Bible of scoring there and I remember months ago us talking on Xbox chat about the importance of keeping bogies off the card, Alan.
When I was really enjoying True Sim Tour on Masters last year and trying really hard that was the key. Just don't make bogies. You're always going to get a few perfect tempo approaches that'll result in birdies per round so focusing on a clean card is definitely the most important thing. I'm pretty sure some weeks last year on TST I was scrambling on about 80% of holes, maybe hitting six good swings a round making birdie and ending up with a -24 which looks mega-impressive on master but if you'd seen the rounds, or checked FIR or GIR stats, you'd wonder how the hell I shot that. And on these tough courses like this one even on Pro with grids on I think that still applies just as much if not moreso.
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Post by Rosebowl88 on Jan 20, 2022 5:35:35 GMT -5
Got an albatross on round 1....damned if I can get it to upload though!
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jan 20, 2022 7:51:19 GMT -5
The other thing I'd point out is too many people think that because this is video golf that they have a right to take driver off every tee and aim straight at every pin, and then wonder why they make make bogey or worse. This course in particular was one where a lot of the time you were much better off missing on the right side and leaving 15/20 feet, rather than going at it, just missing and and leaving 60 feet. Play golf shots! You'll often hear the Pros talking about where their good miss is. This game is no different.
I'm actually really enjoying it on Pro now. Good tempo is still not a gimme (as my scores will testify) and actually it's even brought the long miss back in to play with the grey fast. I was playing about 6 rounds a week plus Fridays which I think is why my consistency has suffered. This BOB season has motivated me to play in a few more societies to try and up my game a bit. The course is ultra tough this week but mostly it played very fair. One or two naughty pins but it's the same for all of us. Don't miss on the wrong side!
One pin though, was it 5 in round 2? 187 greens, pin on this tiny little shelf right in the back right corner of the green with everything sloping back down. There is no good miss on that one! 😬😂
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jan 20, 2022 8:15:25 GMT -5
The other thing I'd point out is too many people think that because this is video golf that they have a right to take driver off every tee and aim straight at every pin, and then wonder why they make make bogey or worse. This course in particular was one where a lot of the time you were much better off missing on the right side and leaving 15/20 feet, rather than going at it, just missing and and leaving 60 feet. Play golf shots! You'll often hear the Pros talking about where their good miss is. This game is no different. I'm actually really enjoying it on Pro now. Good tempo is still not a gimme (as my scores will testify) and actually it's even brought the long miss back in to play with the grey fast. I was playing about 6 rounds a week plus Fridays which I think is why my consistency has suffered. This BOB season has motivated me to play in a few more societies to try and up my game a bit. The course is ultra tough this week but mostly it played very fair. One or two naughty pins but it's the same for all of us. Don't miss on the wrong side! One pin though, was it 5 in round 2? 187 greens, pin on this tiny little shelf right in the back right corner of the green with everything sloping back down. There is no good miss on that one! 😬😂 All great advice but as a video game player and not a proper golfer I just hit it as far as possible off the tee and zero in on the pins (which I rarely get near). Possibly why my scores are crap!! LOL Personally I've been struggling a bit lately with the enjoyment value of the game and made a NY resolution as far as TGCT is concerned to stop obsessing on the cut and and just concentrate on doing the best for my team in The Brew Crew. Worked wonders, not missed a cut this year and skanked a promotion! The team element was what drew me to BoB and had me digging out the XBox One X followed by hitting Curry's hard for a Series X. Not regretting it for one minute. Having great fun being involved here, enjoying (?) the vagaries of the XB swing, and loving the courses so far, especially this week's monster. Really had to grind out a score on this track but it was such a different experience to the TGCT fare that it proved a massive, but at the same time enjoyable, challenge. Thanks for having me!
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Post by Smijti on Jan 20, 2022 8:42:40 GMT -5
Second round -3 to get to -10 at the halfway mark. Wow, pin positioning combined with those greens was nothing short of a harassment
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Post by rhino4life on Jan 20, 2022 9:29:48 GMT -5
All this advise including what I provided was great. All of that can get where you need to be to score. Then there is the putting which is my biggest adversary. I hit 82% fairways and 78% greens in round 3 and missed 3 putts inside 10 feet with a lip out or a bad pull and continued my long putting mastery to an outstanding 2 for 33. About halfway through this round I was in my head so bad it was a lost cause.
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Jan 20, 2022 9:59:36 GMT -5
Some 2022 TGC New Years Resolutions
I am not a professional golfer so stop trying to dress like one. I am going back to wearing shorts. I was a much better player wearing shorts. I was even better sporting the rhino on my back but HB took that away. But shorts are making a comeback in 2022. Also: Don't lose the round on the first hole. Take what is given. Learn to be a better putter. If I get 20 birdies in an event, I keep 95% of them. Not 5% of them. Much less dumbassary such as: "I can get there in two" "I can hit that miracle shot" "I can drive that green with a 15yard landing zone and water on each side" "I can clear that water if I hit a 105% grey fast" "I know that's an easy birdie, let's see if I can get there in one" "I can use driver here, I can use driver everywhere" "Nah, I don't want an easy two putt, I can sink this 65ft uphill sidewinder and not roll off the green" Figured this was also a good time to quote Dave's New Year's Resolution because it spoke to me when I read it the first time. Sounds funny, but it is very wise humor.
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Post by sanchez on Jan 20, 2022 10:08:17 GMT -5
Another -3 to sit -6 after 2 rds.
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