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Post by Q on Oct 23, 2020 23:16:15 GMT -5
Thanks to @chrashbird I made a short and easy tutorial on how to manipulate tee box order. Hopefully this quick video I made helps more courses be designed in this manner in the future!
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Post by DrnkNdKnwThngs on Oct 24, 2020 6:28:18 GMT -5
Great video, Q ... thanks to you and @chrashbird for coming up with this. Like you said, hopefully this will become more mainstream and more courses will be made using this method. ~Drnk (Mike) |
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Oct 24, 2020 6:52:51 GMT -5
Alright ... thanks, and now to see how well I execute the technique on my w.i.p. (Pin2 from the whites can seen on .
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Post by yeltzman on Oct 24, 2020 10:58:30 GMT -5
Got to be honest no real idea how it works,all seemed random to me but it's good on a real course for the par 3s and par 5s,Reds (t) (1) White (f) (2) blue (sat) (3) Black (sun) (4) also place on the days there is short par 3 a tight pin to go with it.Wish it was a bit easier to do,i did struggle a little but was good fun to try.  |
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Post by Q on Oct 24, 2020 18:49:01 GMT -5
Got to be honest no real idea how it works,all seemed random to me but it's good on a real course for the par 3s and par 5s,Reds (t) (1) White (f) (2) blue (sat) (3) Black (sun) (4) also place on the days there is short par 3 a tight pin to go with it.Wish it was a bit easier to do,i did struggle a little but was good fun to try. when you move the waypoint, think about it this way: the tee farthest away from where you put the waypoint will become the "back tee" on that hole. For instance, as I did in the video, If you put the waypoint behind all the tees, the shortest tee to the hole will become the "black tees" because the black tees are the farthest away from the waypoint effectively switching the tee order. |
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Post by yeltzman on Oct 25, 2020 5:34:30 GMT -5
It was the blue and white tees i had problems with especially when i wanted blue or white on there own in front with the rest at the back,it seems it has something to do with the distances moving when you try to put the tees down, Really is a good idea this if i could really work out what i was doing....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 9:09:39 GMT -5
It was the blue and white tees i had problems with especially when i wanted blue or white on there own in front with the rest at the back,it seems it has something to do with the distances moving when you try to put the tees down, Really is a good idea this if i could really work out what i was doing.... Here you go yeltzman this is what I did for my tees. I show what to do with a par 3 in the 2nd half with how to move the 2nd and 3rd default set closer. You’ll have to have a small gap in distance between the 3 at the back. Hope it helps with your superb courses. |
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Post by yeltzman on Oct 25, 2020 9:40:01 GMT -5
Never thought to get the measuring tool out to try it....Will have a another go tomorrow on another course, I had more trouble when the tees were all straight it seems a bit of an angle helps a little.
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Post by Q on Oct 25, 2020 20:17:22 GMT -5
It was the blue and white tees i had problems with especially when i wanted blue or white on there own in front with the rest at the back,it seems it has something to do with the distances moving when you try to put the tees down, Really is a good idea this if i could really work out what i was doing.... Here you go yeltzman this is what I did for my tees. I show what to do with a par 3 in the 2nd half with how to move the 2nd and 3rd default set closer. You’ll have to have a small gap in distance between the 3 at the back. Hope it helps with your superb courses. That green looks absolutely BRUTAL. Also yes, I do this same method now as well. Might release my course right after yours! |
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Post by YouStayClassySanDiego on Oct 26, 2020 15:42:12 GMT -5
Thanks to all you guys for figuring this out. Took a bit of trial and error yesterday, but I was able to get 16 of 18 holes as planned on the Tour version of my RDC course. Probably would have been quicker had I not spent WAY too much time trying to get the tee markers to line up perfectly at holes where multiple tees share the same location. Tip for anyone doing this: Set up your markers exactly how you want them with the waypoint at the normal location, move the waypoint to the spot that will give you the correct tee 'order', then move just ONE set of tees - ideally one that doesn't need to be exactly lined up with another marker. This will reset all the colors. When you move the marker back to it's normal location, you'll have perfectly aligned tee markers like this:  But the results have been awesome in terms of how I want the Tour version of this course to play. While the standard tees play between 6500-7600 yards, the Tour version plays between 7070-7225 yards:  But man, it would be so much easier if there were a simple option to 'Use Manual Tee Locations'. Coding would be super simple as well. |
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Post by yeltzman on Oct 26, 2020 16:01:24 GMT -5
No idea why it changed from tgc2 to tgc2019 and onwards about the Tee position and colours was so much better in tgc2 when you could place the tees where you wanted.
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Post by Q on Oct 27, 2020 6:52:00 GMT -5
YouStayClassySanDiego I think the biggest winner here is Par 3s, so much variance in distance on your scorecard! They can play so different every day! I really hope some more RCR designers that do Major PGA Tour courses could do this in the future. Firethorn/harding park/wingedfoot would all be amazing with a set of tour tees
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Post by YouStayClassySanDiego on Oct 27, 2020 10:16:21 GMT -5
YouStayClassySanDiego I think the biggest winner here is Par 3s, so much variance in distance on your scorecard! They can play so different every day! I really hope some more RCR designers that do Major PGA Tour courses could do this in the future. Firethorn/harding park/wingedfoot would all be amazing with a set of tour tees Thanks! I hope so too. As well, one thing that can't be conveyed in a simple scorecard view is angles. I have a couple of holes where tee positions are laterally separated by 50 yards or more, which can really change up the way the hole plays. |
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Post by bmckenzie69 on Oct 28, 2020 7:17:52 GMT -5
I am a rookie designer working on my rookie Competition course. Could someone help me understand when this tee box method should be used? I am setting up my tee positions based primarily on driver length with tees for 265, 275, 285, and the longest 292. I have set my four pin positions so some holes are tougher with pin 1 while others are pin 2, etc. It sounds like this thread is a trick for tournament courses where a different set off tees and pins are played each day. I suppose I am not ready yet, but at what point do I design a course specifically for tournament play?
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Post by Q on Oct 28, 2020 8:10:18 GMT -5
bmckenzie69 If it is your first course I wouldn't worry about it really. For all of us new course designers the likelihood of us making a tour ready (not just tour approved, but tour READY) course is pretty low. The reason I posted something like this is because I enjoy playing TGCT rounds and currently most of the courses are only set up to play from two tees max in a tournament so it is my hope that more of the Veteran designers pick up this neat trick. Having real life courses like Winged Foot set up to have the 4 different tees used per day in the 2020 US Open just sounds awesome. Outside of the tours the majority of people will only play your course from one tee set and one pin set so I would focus on making that one great first and foremost.
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