Pitching

[dazblade88]

This is a cry for help rather than a criticism of the game as I'm really struggling to get pitching right in 2k21.

Almost every pitch shot I'm hitting is a complete fluff. Does anyone have any tips on technique?

[zzfr33b1rdzz]

Aug 24, 2020 1:40:36 GMT -5 dazblade88 said:

This is a cry for help rather than a criticism of the game as I'm really struggling to get pitching right in 2k21.

Almost every pitch shot I'm hitting is a complete fluff. Does anyone have any tips on technique?

Maybe some info here if you haven't seen it already..


tgctours.proboards.com/thread/24413/pitch-shot

[twofor22]

This shot is probably the one I mess up the most, although I am getting better at it. Usually when I fluff it it's too slow, because for some reason I push the stick forward at the same speed I drag it back. Maybe it's because that is close to what I do in real life with this kind of shot, and it never makes the ball slice out to the right... even when I don't hit it as hard as I need to it still goes straight, just not far enough. They should fix that because it's not realistic. Those clubs are easier to hit properly in real life regardless of the swing speed, it should be replicated in the game instead of making every club the same as the rest.

What's working for me is to try to do what I do with full swings, push forward quicker than I pull back. It's not always perfect of course but the misses are close to perfect and I usually end up on the green.

Just on swing speed, it's probably different for everyone in real life but I often find a slower swing causes me to draw the ball not slice it. Once I warm up and start swinging a bit faster the ball flight goes straight or slight fade.

[jeromeg52]

I can't understand the new pitch mechanics. I only play on TGC Tours Master settings. I've experimented with the lob wedge pitch ... no matter what I do the ball travels around 55 yards. The slowest swing I can produce is 96% power, makes virtually no difference. Maximum loft on L & R together, with that 96% power, sometimes results in less than 50 yards. (modifying the target distance marker makes no difference at all given the club settings.) In other words, I can find no way to modify the pitch shot. Am I missing something?

[Deleted]

Sept 8, 2020 11:39:06 GMT -5 jeromeg52 said:

I can't understand the new pitch mechanics. I only play on TGC Tours Master settings. I've experimented with the lob wedge pitch ... no matter what I do the ball travels around 55 yards. The slowest swing I can produce is 96% power, makes virtually no difference. Maximum loft on L & R together, with that 96% power, sometimes results in less than 50 yards. (modifying the target distance marker makes no difference at all given the club settings.) In other words, I can find no way to modify the pitch shot. Am I missing something?

Maybe you need to pull back the marker, if you pull it back to you as far as you can this will really slow your backswing down. Experiment with this on the chipping green and work on those partial shots.

[bucs0576]

I've started the backswing slow, like the animation then accelerate with my driver swing as the swing arc starts to close. Only way I can hit it.

[jeromeg52]

Sept 8, 2020 14:03:11 GMT -5 @hammers1man said:

Sept 8, 2020 11:39:06 GMT -5 jeromeg52 said:

I can't understand the new pitch mechanics. I only play on TGC Tours Master settings. I've experimented with the lob wedge pitch ... no matter what I do the ball travels around 55 yards. The slowest swing I can produce is 96% power, makes virtually no difference. Maximum loft on L & R together, with that 96% power, sometimes results in less than 50 yards. (modifying the target distance marker makes no difference at all given the club settings.) In other words, I can find no way to modify the pitch shot. Am I missing something?

Maybe you need to pull back the marker, if you pull it back to you as far as you can this will really slow your backswing down. Experiment with this on the chipping green and work on those partial shots.

OK, I think I've got it.  It's the partial swing method, unlike the full swing/slow method of TGC2019.  But on a PS4 it's very tricky since the backswing won't stop before full extension, no matter how slightly you pull the joystick.  You have to master the flick swing.

[twofor22]

Sept 9, 2020 23:29:34 GMT -5 jeromeg52 said:

Sept 8, 2020 14:03:11 GMT -5 @hammers1man said:

Maybe you need to pull back the marker, if you pull it back to you as far as you can this will really slow your backswing down. Experiment with this on the chipping green and work on those partial shots.

OK, I think I've got it.  It's the partial swing method, unlike the full swing/slow method of TGC2019.  But on a PS4 it's very tricky since the backswing won't stop before full extension, no matter how slightly you pull the joystick.  You have to master the flick swing.

If you pull the marker back and use the same swing tempo as a full shot it should cut the backswing short because moving the marker back makes the backswing slower on screen. Works for me most of the time.

[jeromeg52]

Sept 10, 2020 1:28:50 GMT -5 twofor22 said:

Sept 9, 2020 23:29:34 GMT -5 jeromeg52 said:

OK, I think I've got it.  It's the partial swing method, unlike the full swing/slow method of TGC2019.  But on a PS4 it's very tricky since the backswing won't stop before full extension, no matter how slightly you pull the joystick.  You have to master the flick swing.

If you pull the marker back and use the same swing tempo as a full shot it should cut the backswing short because moving the marker back makes the backswing slower on screen. Works for me most of the time.

I believe that marker you mention is the Distance Control Assist, which is set to OFF for TGC Tours Platinum/Elite/Kinetic/Challenge Circuit.  I've played with it off since Day 1 so have no clear idea what it does.  

[twofor22]

Well it must be doing something because I often have 20-30 metre pitch shots and use basically the same swing tempo as a normal shot, not having to deliberately shorten the backswing, and they don't fly double or triple the distance which they would on a full distance pitch for whatever club I'm using.

[dime5150]

If a pitch is any less than 100%, it’s a duff, if it’s slow it’s a duff, based on that it’s the least useful shots but from about 65 to 90 there aren’t many other options

[twofor22]

Sept 10, 2020 22:19:43 GMT -5 dime5150 said:

If a pitch is any less than 100%, it’s a duff, if it’s slow it’s a duff, based on that it’s the least useful shots but from about 65 to 90 there aren’t many other options

In my experience so far it's only a duff on a slow tempo swing, not a less than 100% swing with a perfect or fast tempo. I've used partial swings to great effect with the pitch shot, and often do it from 20 metres or so to get close. I normally aim right and deliberately swing fast because it takes away any chance or it falling short and right.

[illinoisgator]

Sept 11, 2020 1:46:26 GMT -5 twofor22 said:

Sept 10, 2020 22:19:43 GMT -5 dime5150 said:

If a pitch is any less than 100%, it’s a duff, if it’s slow it’s a duff, based on that it’s the least useful shots but from about 65 to 90 there aren’t many other options

In my experience so far it's only a duff on a slow tempo swing, not a less than 100% swing with a perfect or fast tempo. I've used partial swings to great effect with the pitch shot, and often do it from 20 metres or so to get close. I normally aim right and deliberately swing fast because it takes away any chance or it falling short and right.

I just had one today that was a 90 yard pitch I hit at 89% with perfect tempo and it went roughly 65 yards from the fairway...not the first time it’s happened. I’m no longer trying for less than full power on pitch shots

[twofor22]

Sept 11, 2020 11:18:40 GMT -5 illinoisgator said:

Sept 11, 2020 1:46:26 GMT -5 twofor22 said:

In my experience so far it's only a duff on a slow tempo swing, not a less than 100% swing with a perfect or fast tempo. I've used partial swings to great effect with the pitch shot, and often do it from 20 metres or so to get close. I normally aim right and deliberately swing fast because it takes away any chance or it falling short and right.

I just had one today that was a 90 yard pitch I hit at 89% with perfect tempo and it went roughly 65 yards from the fairway...not the first time it’s happened. I’m no longer trying for less than full power on pitch shots

Was there a strong headwind? That will pull them up short as well. I had a number of them in tonight's rounds. Most of them I could land pretty close and nearly holed one of those 20 metre or so ones by moving the loft and attack angle things down and stopping it on the green.