Master's Clubs 2w or 3w and reasons

[ualkoebs]

I keep switching back and forth between, would like to be sold on one and just stuck with it.

[jb]

I pack a 2W a 1 and a 3 iron. They fill the gaps nicely. Contemplating dropping a wedge for a 4 iron. No real method to the madness other than I like the carry distances and I seem to have fewer gaps.

[donkeypuncherben]

2w

The extra yards are valuable on many par 5's.
Too big of a gap between driver and 3 wood when clubbing down off the tee.
Hitting a fast 1 iron works really well to fill the distance gap in many situations
Driver off the deck doesn't have the same carry. Thus it doesn't really provide a good substitute for par 5's when you can't bounce it on

[Demonondalinks]

2 wood 4 wood 3 iron.  Never used the 1 or 2 iron as I feel those 2 clubs shouldn't be able to advance the ball from the rough. I love the 2 wood, it's been in the bag since 3rd update.

[zzfr33b1rdzz]

I have 2W, 1I, 5H


I recently swapped my 3I for the 5H as I feel there is better gap coverage between the 5I and 1I - the 5H is a little more forgiving on the green, though can't hit out of heavy rough with it - so if need be I partial swing the 1I - or drop to the 5I depending on the situation..

so bag is D, 2W, 1I, 5H, 5-9, all wedges, putter..(masters)

[ezzinomilonga]

I play with Master Clubs and "by default" i use Driver, 2W ,2I, 3I, 5I etc..and this is actually my setup for every not competitive round.
But my advice is to check every course (and possibly every condition) you'll play on tour and to verify that your setup fits always, at least, with all the longest par 3s of the course. And, possibly, with the reachable par 5s.
The last week on cc-pro, at Deux Fois Par Jour, for example, i realized that my 2w was not useful at all, while i was missing a long iron..then i changed the 2W with the 4I.
I played without a club between the Driver and the 2I, but i not suffered at all for this.
These are just details, but sometimes these details can make the difference between a birdie or a bogey...and possibly not on a single hole. Especially if you have some issue to master partial shots or controlled fast/slow swings.

[ezzinomilonga]

Jun 22, 2020 14:55:48 GMT -5 zzfr33b1rdzz said:

I have 2W, 1I, 5H


I recently swapped my 3I for the 5H as I feel there is better gap coverage between the 5I and 1I - the 5H is a little more forgiving on the green, though can't hit out of heavy rough with it - so if need be I partial swing the 1I - or drop to the 5I depending on the situation..

so bag is D, 2W, 1I, 5H, 5-9, all wedges, putter..(masters)

This is my exact setup this week at the Razorback, at least for the first round. I made your same choice about 5H, despite i know is awful outside the fairway, exactly for your same reason. I think it could be also useful (depending the wind speed i obviously still ignore) at least on one of the longest par 3..and maybe on one of the reachable par 5...i'll see on some hour

[zzfr33b1rdzz]

Jun 22, 2020 15:21:31 GMT -5 ezzinomilonga said:

Jun 22, 2020 14:55:48 GMT -5 zzfr33b1rdzz said:

I have 2W, 1I, 5H


I recently swapped my 3I for the 5H as I feel there is better gap coverage between the 5I and 1I - the 5H is a little more forgiving on the green, though can't hit out of heavy rough with it - so if need be I partial swing the 1I - or drop to the 5I depending on the situation..

so bag is D, 2W, 1I, 5H, 5-9, all wedges, putter..(masters)

This is my exact setup this week at the Razorback, at least for the first round. I made your same choice about 5H, despite i know is awful outside the fairway, exactly for your same reason. I think it could be also useful (depending the wind speed i obviously still ignore) at least on one of the longest par 3..and maybe on one of the reachable par 5...i'll see on some hour

I need to do a better job of scouting a course as I rarely swap my clubs before an event - however, if I practice a round on the course, I can take note of which clubs I wouldn't need and then replace with ones that I would actually use.
My problem would be forgetting to set them back for the longer courses!  

[ualkoebs]

Great advice guys keep it coming! I just feel I'm always to close for my 1 iron compared to 2I. But of course I've got the 1I currently because of getting out of the rough. I almost never use 3I? I currently went back to the 2w over the 3w but like someone said it's different every course.

[Cecil Harvey]

2W

[c6vette2010]

Jun 23, 2020 0:35:48 GMT -5 Cecil Harvey said:

2W

What Bob said. I play a lot with a stubborn guy who won’t switch off the 3W and many times his approach is a pitch and mine a flop. 

[wmr5277]

I always go 3 wood. I haven't changed any of my clubs in at least a year though.

I did have the 2 wood before then. However, many times I feel after roll-out; that the 2 wood and driver off the deck go the same yardage.

[ezzinomilonga]

Jun 23, 2020 6:35:57 GMT -5 wmr5277 said:

I always go 3 wood. I haven't changed any of my clubs in at least a year though.

I did have the 2 wood before then. However, many times I feel after roll-out; that the 2 wood and driver off the deck go the same yardage.

True, but the driver has a lower trajectory and at least a pair of bounces more than 2W, if the terrain is severely sloped the yardage is the same, but the accuracy is a coin toss. Is hard to find a situation in which is safe to use the driver..it happens, of course, but is rare.
Furthermore, you are in the elite of the players of this game, is hard to follow your same way to play If i should keep always the same clubs for a year, sometimes i would be screwed

[Riotous]

Up until very recently i used a Driver off the deck but as Ezz said...
- I can keep the line in the cone on a 2wd but not when using a driver in the fairway. My swing is either a little or a little right so i can't aim for my miss
- Driver off the fairway has got me in more trouble than it has got me eagle opportunities

But i think this comes down to two ways of playing and a different debate - do you practice the course and adjust your clubs to suit or are you going for maximum landing zone coverage. I practice a course once before playing, i'd practice more if i could replicate the EXACT wind conditions but the game doesn't allow this, so i go for maximum coverage that my skill level can achieve. I played a lot of 2Wds off the tee this week and would probably have had 200yds+ of extra approach play if i'd had a 3wd in the bag rather than the 2wd.

[ezzinomilonga]

Riotous of course to practice a course, even strictly following the conditions indicated by the round everytime as i do, can't mean to simulate EXACTLY the conditions i'll find on Tour (and i'm happy about this, it would be senseless to play 2 times the same identical conditions). It happens quite often that i play on practice with some E wind and in game i play constantly with a SE wind..then in the round for the Tour that E in fact is a NE wind..and the same it happens with the wind speed.

But i must admit that, even with no need to recreate the exact conditions, this thing about practice it helps me a lot to understand a lot of little things that i could hardly notice, playing only the Tour round.
For example, if a tree on my trajectory actually is an obstacle or if the ball can easily avoid it..or how much strong is the slope on a downhill green. Or, maybe the 2 most important things, what is the best and the worst landing point on some sloped fairway (something sometimes simply impossible to notice before i try) and what is the best side of a pin where to aim.
And, last but not least, having more or less an idea of the range of speed and direction the wind can have on the Tour round, i can understand if some change on my bag could allows me to have an easier, more precise approach on the longest par 3 and on the par 5 reachable in two shots.

Of course (and luckily, i would say) there is not practice that could ever guarantee your score will be great, but i can't deny this work can improve my score even of 2/4 points per round (assuming my swing and tempo works properly and i play well enough )..and mainly not because i score more birdies or eagles, but because this thing helps me a lot to limit those silly errors of evaluation that can easily cause bogeys.

This week, for example, on my practice round for the second round at Razorback, i noticed that probably my 2w will be useless and i'm evaluating if to change it with a 1I..because it could works well for at least one of the reachable par 5 and, considering the high wind and the tiny fairways, it could be useful to have a long iron to play from the rough.
I know all this is not requested..and it guarantees nothing, but i love all these little nuances, so i really enjoy this part of the work