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Post by yeltzman on Jul 11, 2020 10:32:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't Rule out Harding park home of the pga championship.......did not realise it was a TPC course.
To me looking at the screenshots close i feel some of the new courses were the tgc 2019 versions made by the community touched up a little in the updated game engine.But really been hard to tell what has been showed yet.
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Post by sroel908 on Jul 11, 2020 11:05:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't Rule out Harding park home of the pga championship.......did not realise it was a TPC course. To me looking at the screenshots close i feel some of the new courses were the tgc 2019 versions made by the community touched up a little in the updated game engine.But really been hard to tell what has been showed yet. The thing to note is that they said there are 15 real-life courses AND tournaments in the game. So whatever courses they offer, the corresponding real-life event has to be in. So, if they did have TPC Harding Park, that would mean they had the rights to the PGA Championship...which would be pretty big news. I would be shocked that they didn't mention that yet if it was the case...but then again, their marketing has been interesting from the start, so who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 11:38:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't Rule out Harding park home of the pga championship.......did not realise it was a TPC course. To me looking at the screenshots close i feel some of the new courses were the tgc 2019 versions made by the community touched up a little in the updated game engine.But really been hard to tell what has been showed yet. The thing to note is that they said there are 15 real-life courses AND tournaments in the game. So whatever courses they offer, the corresponding real-life event has to be in. So, if they did have TPC Harding Park, that would mean they had the rights to the PGA Championship...which would be pretty big news. I would be shocked that they didn't mention that yet if it was the case...but then again, their marketing has been interesting from the start, so who knows? PGA Championship is going to be held at the ocean course at Kiawah Island in may 2021. The 2020 PGA Championship at TPC Harding Park is played when this game is released (6-9 august). This year is special though, so who knows what deals they have made with PGA.
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Post by andy6467 on Jul 11, 2020 12:45:45 GMT -5
Glad they are upgrading the graphics but hope the administrative part of the game, such as on line match ups, is upgraded as well. The one thing they have said about online matchmaking is that 'it will ensure that each player has the same settings'. So no more Beginner clubs (from players who have no business using beginner clubs) Vs. Master clubs type mismatches. What we don't know is how many option filters are we going to have for online matchmaking. I hope there are at least filters for at least three different option sets. I know I don't want to play an online match with Pro Vision (virtually every aid known to man) enabled, but I recognize that some will. I'd like one option set with just a swing feedback meter (but no swing length indicator at the bottom), grids, and a scout camera. Finally, I'm sure there would be some demand for all aids off and no grids. I don't know how they're going to handle tee choices though, but something needs to be done there as well.
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Post by yeltzman on Jul 11, 2020 13:32:48 GMT -5
well they had a masters,Open,us open and a PGA under different names in TGC2019 career mode,,,could always do the same again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 14:33:39 GMT -5
well they had a masters,Open,us open and a PGA under different names in TGC2019 career mode,,,could always do the same again. That is just fine - as long as they don't force fantasy courses in the mode. It must be possible to customize the career mode and choose what courses you want in it. This mode was totaly ruined for me the moment I saw the first bad fantasy course in the web.com tour. Out of 6 tournaments in that tour (which is way too little) - 4 out of 6 was bad fantasy courses. Even with 15 courses, they need to use so many fantasy courses for their "official" schedule - and I will never play that mode unless I can remove those fantasy courses.
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Post by jcauthen04 on Jul 11, 2020 14:46:25 GMT -5
andy6467 wrote: "I don't know how they're going to handle tee choices though, but something needs to be done there as well."
It sounds like something has been done with tee choices, as Shaun West has said more than once that players in online matchmaking will have all the same settings... that would include tees, or at least it would in my world.
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Post by nevadaballin on Jul 11, 2020 22:22:03 GMT -5
I attempted to do a Lidar build of Victoria National this Spring, but the Lidar Data available at The National Map is $hite! I would have had to spend many many hours smoothing in order to get something playable, and even then I would know how close it was. Unless HB/2K contracted an independent Lidar study of the course (not too cheap I think) I doubt they will do this one. It is too bad though, it is a great track, one of Fazio's best. The data for East Lake are not great. So it will be interesting to see how that course is in the new game. They have stated that they have "scanned the courses" - so it may be that they have gotten their own data. I don't know how much it costs to do a lidar scan for a course. Don't think it is that expensive. HB has worked with EA on previous TW games. Since there is a relationship there maybe they were able to get EA’s scanned version of it and some others. Who knows how many scans EA (or even 2k) has.
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Post by yeltzman on Jul 12, 2020 4:23:21 GMT -5
I would say there using friendbombers version of east lake for 2k21,with a few added scanned items.I think there is a massive difference between fantasy courses and fictional courses for career mode.At least 40-50 courses in the database here which could be used in career mode and really no many would know if its fictional or real but knowing HB would not be shocked if some fantasy courses there in career mode.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 4:50:07 GMT -5
I would say there using friendbombers version of east lake for 2k21,with a few added scanned items.I think there is a massive difference between fantasy courses and fictional courses for career mode.At least 40-50 courses in the database here which could be used in career mode and really no many would know if its fictional or real but knowing HB would not be shocked if some fantasy courses there in career mode. I highly doubt they are using friendbombers version. "Scanned courses" - "the most realistic", from what they have claimed of these courses - and that screams lidar elevation data. And since the available lidar data for Atlanta is not good (it's okay and doable, but not great) - they probably have their own new scan of the course. And I must say I totaly disagree with you on these fictional courses. There are a few that I think is very realistic, but from what I've seen - I can count them on one hand - and even then I will only have real courses in my single player career mode. What others want is of no concern for me as a player. Let them have as many fictional and fantasy courses they like - but let me customize the game the way I want it - and that means no fictional courses.
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Post by yeltzman on Jul 12, 2020 7:07:57 GMT -5
I think you will find that scanned courses talk was only talk........The scottsdale they played is the same course from tgc 2019....and the clip from tpc Louisiana is the same from tgc 2019 the bunker on the right same position on the 1st as in tgc 2019.
Also i think your being very harsh on some of the fictional designers here.....I don't really enjoy fictional courses but the standard since lockdown been an all time high.Yes many are designed especially round the green to keep scoring down,but there are many which would make great 2k21 courses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 7:31:35 GMT -5
I think you will find that scanned courses talk was only talk........The scottsdale they played is the same course from tgc 2019....and the clip from tpc Louisiana is the same from tgc 2019 the bunker on the right same position on the 1st as in tgc 2019. Also i think your being very harsh on some of the fictional designers here.....I don't really enjoy fictional courses but the standard since lockdown been an all time high.Yes many are designed especially round the green to keep scoring down,but there are many which would make great 2k21 courses. You know yeltzman, a real course is a real course. It is the same course. The bunker is in the same place, because it is the real course. It all comes down to taste. My taste is my taste, and my taste is a general dislike of fictional courses (and that also include badly recreated real courses that comes off more as fictional than a recreation). I have no problem that you and others have different taste. My point, is that the game need to let me customize it to my taste, not force on me something I really don't like. That kind of things sets me off - so I never got futher than one tournament in the Web.com tour on the career mode in TGC 2019 before I encountered fantasy courses. At that point, when I saw that it was all fantasy courses - that mode of the game was not for me. And that is not counting the bad difficulty settings for this mode which also is a bummer. Problem with solo society, is the bad difficulty settings combined with no cut, tedious set-ups for new seasons etc.
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Post by yeltzman on Jul 12, 2020 7:37:25 GMT -5
Not when the bunker is in the wrong position in tgc 2019.By the way the designer did a fantastic job on it considering it was done the old fashioned way.Till HB change the engine we will never the get the courses everybody deserves in tgc brand.
I do agree with you there should be no fantasy courses in career mode,but i am sure there will be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 7:43:44 GMT -5
Not when the bunker is in the wrong position in tgc 2019... TPC Louisiana? If that is the case, then there is error on the recreation and we agree that it is wrong. Have the bunker been there before, and recently moved?
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Post by yeltzman on Jul 12, 2020 8:20:03 GMT -5
this is the reason i feel HB are suing Community course this is TPC louisiana in tgc 2019 and the trailer....it seems to me its the same courses just touched up a little with textures and theme.of course i maybe wrong just a view
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