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Post by Demonondalinks on Jul 22, 2020 9:53:07 GMT -5
In case anyone is curious, they've announced two more courses today: TPC Sawgrass and TPC Boston. They still have four more courses to announce... Very surprised they're bring back Sawgrass. True Shocker
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Post by sroel908 on Jul 22, 2020 10:27:51 GMT -5
Seems like TPC courses were the easy get for them...with four courses left to announce, I am betting three of them are TPC courses. We already know TPC Louisiana and TPC San Antonio are two of them, as they were shown in previous videos. Riviera is one as well. My guess for the third is TPC Shouthwind.
That means, if I am correct, 10 of the 15 official, real-life courses will be TPC tracks.
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Post by jcauthen04 on Jul 22, 2020 10:44:50 GMT -5
Seems like TPC courses were the easy get for them...with four courses left to announce, I am betting three of them are TPC courses. We already know TPC Louisiana and TPC San Antonio are two of them, as they were shown in previous videos. Riviera is one as well. My guess for the third is TPC Shouthwind. That means, if I am correct, 10 of the 15 official, real-life courses will be TPC tracks. I wanted Southwind, which is my favorite licensed course in 2019, over Boston. I'd take Southwind at this point, but I would rather see a links course at this point. I want to see if they have some variety in the color palette for the grass textures! So we've got two more days of these intensely dramatic course reveals to sit through, then maybe we can start being served some videos that speak to the questions on the minds of the faithful here.
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Post by jp44 on Jul 22, 2020 11:19:54 GMT -5
So I guess the swing difficulties will be used to differentiate between the challenge circuits and the pro tours on here Please for the love of god can we all be playing on the same difficulty settings across all competitive tours in 2K21 like any other remotely competitive game ever played. All tours. One setting. Even playing field. Keep the "Beginner Club Tour" or whatever the easiest equivalent will be where you cant progress upwards unless you're ready to play on the harder settings. That would leave the remaining tours (Anything in the ladder to the pro tours) play on the exact same settings. If you need to be playing on a certain difficulty at the highest tour level, any tour that feeds into it should have the exact same difficulty requirements. Really hope they come out with some clear details about how the game will actually be played sooner than later. Excited to be a part of a TGCTours season from the start and hoping the boys behind the scenes are getting some info from HB/2K so they can roll out the new season with ease.
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Post by lessangster on Jul 22, 2020 12:08:23 GMT -5
I thought all the course had been revealed up to Quail Hollow
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Post by sroel908 on Jul 22, 2020 12:22:24 GMT -5
I thought all the course had been revealed up to Quail Hollow They had given away 9 of the courses before even starting this process on July 15th. The last "surprise" one was Quail Hollow, with TPC River Highlands being the other true unknown one. TPC River Highlands was also the one they led this whole process off with. They still have three more courses to "announce", as they just "revealed" Riviera as one about an hour ago. Riviera was one that was previously shown in other videos. They are doing these at a pace of 2 courses per day, so tomorrow will be the last day they do this. The two others we know of are TPC San Antonio and TPC Louisiana. There is one more unknown one, but my bet is on TPC Southwind, since it was in TGC 2019.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jul 22, 2020 12:32:30 GMT -5
I am interested to see what 'official courses' they have, but at the end of the day these reveals are a bit meh for me. I'll probably play them about as many times as I've played the official courses in this game, and the last one for that matter. Approximately zero. Although if they're any good I suppose one or two might appear on our scheduling.
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Post by Demonondalinks on Jul 22, 2020 12:36:44 GMT -5
I am interested to see what 'official courses' they have, but at the end of the day these reveals are a bit meh for me. I'll probably play them about as many times as I've played the official courses in this game, and the last one for that matter. Approximately zero. Although if they're any good I suppose one or two might appear on our scheduling. I am hoping A Course With No Name will also be an official course.. Bet you would play that one.
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Post by jcauthen04 on Jul 22, 2020 14:38:49 GMT -5
I am interested to see what 'official courses' they have, but at the end of the day these reveals are a bit meh for me. I'll probably play them about as many times as I've played the official courses in this game, and the last one for that matter. Approximately zero. Although if they're any good I suppose one or two might appear on our scheduling. I am hoping A Course With No Name will also be an official course.. Bet you would play that one. Is that a desert course?
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Post by itsmb8 on Jul 22, 2020 15:27:24 GMT -5
So I guess the swing difficulties will be used to differentiate between the challenge circuits and the pro tours on here Please for the love of god can we all be playing on the same difficulty settings across all competitive tours in 2K21 like any other remotely competitive game ever played. All tours. One setting. Even playing field. Keep the "Beginner Club Tour" or whatever the easiest equivalent will be where you cant progress upwards unless you're ready to play on the harder settings. That would leave the remaining tours (Anything in the ladder to the pro tours) play on the exact same settings. If you need to be playing on a certain difficulty at the highest tour level, any tour that feeds into it should have the exact same difficulty requirements. Really hope they come out with some clear details about how the game will actually be played sooner than later. Excited to be a part of a TGCTours season from the start and hoping the boys behind the scenes are getting some info from HB/2K so they can roll out the new season with ease. 100% disagree. Pro tours play with master clubs because they are the best of the best here. And those guys shoot anywhere from -17 to -6 a round. If you have CC-E playing on master clubs, guess what. Those guys shoot +4 a round and they quit. Keeping every single tour to one difficulty with either drastically reduce the player base or create some ungodly low scores for the top tours.
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Post by Royce on Jul 22, 2020 15:49:03 GMT -5
Seems like TPC courses were the easy get for them...with four courses left to announce, I am betting three of them are TPC courses. We already know TPC Louisiana and TPC San Antonio are two of them, as they were shown in previous videos. Riviera is one as well. My guess for the third is TPC Shouthwind. That means, if I am correct, 10 of the 15 official, real-life courses will be TPC tracks.
Hopefully HB's Riviera is an improvement over boomboom's trash, but I'm not holding much faith in hb's design skills lmao.
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Post by Mick on Jul 23, 2020 7:11:47 GMT -5
So I guess the swing difficulties will be used to differentiate between the challenge circuits and the pro tours on here Please for the love of god can we all be playing on the same difficulty settings across all competitive tours in 2K21 like any other remotely competitive game ever played. All tours. One setting. Even playing field. Keep the "Beginner Club Tour" or whatever the easiest equivalent will be where you cant progress upwards unless you're ready to play on the harder settings. That would leave the remaining tours (Anything in the ladder to the pro tours) play on the exact same settings. If you need to be playing on a certain difficulty at the highest tour level, any tour that feeds into it should have the exact same difficulty requirements. Really hope they come out with some clear details about how the game will actually be played sooner than later. Excited to be a part of a TGCTours season from the start and hoping the boys behind the scenes are getting some info from HB/2K so they can roll out the new season with ease. Don't we want large crowds of people playing this game? If everyone is playing on medium settings the good players will trash the course and it's too easy for them. The average players will then lose interest since they have no hope of competing. Use the hardest settings and many won't enjoy it and they quit. It's a fine balance like any competitive online game.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Jul 23, 2020 9:01:53 GMT -5
Please for the love of god can we all be playing on the same difficulty settings across all competitive tours in 2K21 like any other remotely competitive game ever played. All tours. One setting. Even playing field. Keep the "Beginner Club Tour" or whatever the easiest equivalent will be where you cant progress upwards unless you're ready to play on the harder settings. That would leave the remaining tours (Anything in the ladder to the pro tours) play on the exact same settings. If you need to be playing on a certain difficulty at the highest tour level, any tour that feeds into it should have the exact same difficulty requirements. Really hope they come out with some clear details about how the game will actually be played sooner than later. Excited to be a part of a TGCTours season from the start and hoping the boys behind the scenes are getting some info from HB/2K so they can roll out the new season with ease. Don't we want large crowds of people playing this game? If everyone is playing on medium settings the good players will trash the course and it's too easy for them. The average players will then lose interest since they have no hope of competing. Use the hardest settings and many won't enjoy it and they quit. It's a fine balance like any competitive online game. TGCTours are mainly comprised of players that want to compete on a level playing field. If the game is hard to play, so be it - the casual tour players may leave, but the hardcore folks won't let a hard game deter them from completing their rounds from week to week (at least that's my opinion anyway) I am guessing the Pro tours will be High difficulty required - then for CC levels - High/Medium difficulty - much like it is today (master/pro) - though I would be in favor of everyone playing the tours on highest difficulty. IF people drop, so be it.. What I am really interested in is how they are going to handle the difficulties without using clubsets like in past and current iteration of the game. I.E. Hardest was Masters, Medium was Pro, and Easy was beginner Will all the difficulties have the same carry distance on the clubs assuming P/P tempo and 100% power ?? - but just how hard/easy it will be to execute said swing. My guess is it will likely be similar to 2019 game in that the higher the difficulty, the smaller the swing 'cone' will become. Can't just say that a CC player on highest difficultly won't be able to score well - I myself am CC and have been playing Master clubs on 2019 since day 1 - I have spurts of double digit under par, but for the most part average around -5/-6. Anyway - it's all relative. I think what most people on the tours have voiced clearly is that we all want even playing fields - so difficulty settings is only part of it - it will also come down to how each of the platforms are tuned to execute those settings - meaning let's hope the new game plays the same way on all the platforms. Separation of the Pro tours compared to CC-Pro and CC-Am really comes down to course selection - so if all the tours were on the highest difficulty - but the CC courses play easier - the scoring would be relative to the players on that tour - meaning it is likely that we 'may' start to actually see the tours be comprised of players with 'like ability' - which is the whole intent of TGCTours in the first place. So, yes, one may struggle with the difficulty - but if everyone on your tour is also struggling - a +4 score may end up not being bad if the average is +/- 3 or 4 strokes either way.. All shall be revealed in about a month when we finally get our hands on the new game..
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Post by jp44 on Jul 23, 2020 9:40:08 GMT -5
Please for the love of god can we all be playing on the same difficulty settings across all competitive tours in 2K21 like any other remotely competitive game ever played. All tours. One setting. Even playing field. Keep the "Beginner Club Tour" or whatever the easiest equivalent will be where you cant progress upwards unless you're ready to play on the harder settings. That would leave the remaining tours (Anything in the ladder to the pro tours) play on the exact same settings. If you need to be playing on a certain difficulty at the highest tour level, any tour that feeds into it should have the exact same difficulty requirements. Really hope they come out with some clear details about how the game will actually be played sooner than later. Excited to be a part of a TGCTours season from the start and hoping the boys behind the scenes are getting some info from HB/2K so they can roll out the new season with ease. Don't we want large crowds of people playing this game? If everyone is playing on medium settings the good players will trash the course and it's too easy for them. The average players will then lose interest since they have no hope of competing. Use the hardest settings and many won't enjoy it and they quit. It's a fine balance like any competitive online game. For sure we want large crowds playing the game. I have no problem with lower tours playing on easier settings I just think that in terms of competition, competitors need to be playing on the same difficulty level. I'm also not suggesting that the pro tours play a True Sim like experience, which would be the hardest settings. It will all depend on how the settings and swing difficulties are set by HB/2K but hear me out: From Bottom to top Beginner Club Tour: The utmost easiest way to play the game. No advancement, one "division". When you're ready or willing to play with harder settings you could move up to CC AM CC-AM: Slightly harder than BCT but easier than higher tours. Keep it 4 or more flights (ie CC-E,F,G,Z etc) that you can progress through but cannot advance to CC Pro unless you are ready or willing to play on harder settings. Courses are set up a little easier with shorter tees and less malicious greens. CC-Pro: If you are looking to compete, this is where you have to start. This is where I would like to see "Standard" difficulty settings put in, essentially akin to Masters clubs now. Have the swing difficulties as hard as possible with the same aids that are currently on now. Nothing close to a True Sim Tour, just the same standard settings that everyone in the flight will be playing on. If you're not enjoying the competition, ease up the settings for a bit and go down to AM. If you are enjoying the struggle of competition, keep grinding it out until you get better. I think it would be fine to leave the wind meter on in cc-pro. Pro Tours: Once you've gone through CC-Pro you're on to the big leagues. Don't feel like anything needs changing here. Hardest swing settings, wind meter off and hopefully there is some other minor HUD type stuff that could be taken off to complicate things a little bit more without getting super anal like a TST. TST: as bare bones as possible. Not my cup of tea but played a few rounds and see why people are into it. No need to change anything obviously. I'm so happy that I found TGCTours and grateful to all the guys who put in the time to make this website and community what it is. I don't expect them to reinvent the wheel by any means and will be playing on tour for 2K21 so long as the game is playable and HB/2K dont butcher the tempo on Xbox again. It just drives me mad that two completely different difficulty settings "compete" on the same leaderboard when the difficulty differential is INSANE. Net net all I want is for each flight to be competing on the EXACT same settings. If its harder on PGA than CC-A and harder on CC-A than CC-Z that is fine by me, just please no more pro/master or equivalent on the same leaderboard.
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Jul 23, 2020 10:23:58 GMT -5
Think you will only be able to alter difficuly settings in your career mode (if wish to play that of course)
All games have various settings, keeps folks playing and at their level.
Sales will be down if all folk read in reviews is that the game is "too hard".
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