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Post by IGolfBad on Mar 29, 2020 14:44:15 GMT -5
Hi, all
Having failed in my search, does anyone have some good tips or a tutorial on effective shot shaping (I.e. fade/draw)? I have seen the effects but the nuances on how to apply this have escaped me.
Many thanks in advance!
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Post by IGolfBad on Mar 29, 2020 15:02:24 GMT -5
Found the HB video, which isn’t much help. Still looking for details about how much each click affects the curve. Thanks again!
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Post by Art Vandelay on Mar 29, 2020 20:19:50 GMT -5
 You're welcome. Onward! |
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Post by gdog on Mar 29, 2020 21:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Mar 30, 2020 4:26:01 GMT -5
It's really something that take practice, especially when considering the effects of sidehill lies. Unless you are top 125 in the world or so you probably don't need to be using it, but for the top players it is key being able to make shots especially in high or very high winds. The effect of of each click will get more drastic as you get further from center line, it gets really hard to control once you get beyond 12-15 yards of draw or fade.
If you are playing with narrow fairways and cross winds, cutting or drawing it a little against the wind can help a lot. A good tip is that you don't need to cancel the wind completely. If I have a 15 mph crosswind I might play a 10 yard draw and also aim 5 yards left to negate the wind. This keeps the ball on a somewhat straighter line while avoiding getting the loft box into the area where the effect is harder to control.
I think the physics of how the ball reacts when it lands are messed up. It doesn't seem like the side spin affects the bounce as it does in real life which is a shame because that would really change the approach game for the better if it did.
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Post by IGolfBad on Apr 4, 2020 11:22:05 GMT -5
It's really something that take practice, especially when considering the effects of sidehill lies. Unless you are top 125 in the world or so you probably don't need to be using it, but for the top players it is key being able to make shots especially in high or very high winds. The effect of of each click will get more drastic as you get further from center line, it gets really hard to control once you get beyond 12-15 yards of draw or fade. If you are playing with narrow fairways and cross winds, cutting or drawing it a little against the wind can help a lot. A good tip is that you don't need to cancel the wind completely. If I have a 15 mph crosswind I might play a 10 yard draw and also aim 5 yards left to negate the wind. This keeps the ball on a somewhat straighter line while avoiding getting the loft box into the area where the effect is harder to control. I think the physics of how the ball reacts when it lands are messed up. It doesn't seem like the side spin affects the bounce as it does in real life which is a shame because that would really change the approach game for the better if it did. Good stuff, thanks! Perhaps a quick explanation on how to gauge, for example, a 10 yd draw in terms of “clicks from center”. Cheers! |
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Post by IGolfBad on Apr 4, 2020 11:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Apr 5, 2020 3:41:38 GMT -5
Sorry I don’t use click systems and it would be different for each club and also affected by side hill lies. It’s really something that needs practice
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Post by IGolfBad on Apr 18, 2020 12:14:27 GMT -5
I’ve been practicing this in certain situations and seeing the effect. I can certainly understand how it’s more by feel than clicks.
Thanks for the help, everyone!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Apr 20, 2020 3:55:06 GMT -5
I’ve been practicing this in certain situations and seeing the effect. I can certainly understand how it’s more by feel than clicks. Thanks for the help, everyone! The "clicks" system it works really good on certain situations. I don't know if you follow the system used and explained by Doyley and other players or if you created your own system. I slowly found my way and i can say it works really, really well. Especially on greens. But i definitely agree that in a good number of situations, your feeling can help a lot more than every click system. Especially on those pretty shott putts with very strong breaks and/or downhill. But, on the medium/long distances, the clicks system allows me to find the proper line in situations in which my feeling couldn't help enough/at all. Of course, every system is always strictly related with your putting style, mainly with how many speed you are used to give to your ball. And how good you are to calculate how many strenght your putt needs. I believe that if you find a good consistence on this, then a click system could work flawlessly on greens. From the tee, now that i switched from Pro to Master clubs, i can see i use more my feeling than my cliks system, cause above every calculation, i still must obtain a straight line everytime..and..well..is not so easy for me  |
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Post by parbuster1962 on Jul 10, 2020 9:01:03 GMT -5
I think mastering the draw and fade are much more difficult than mastering putting.
The biggest mistake I made and still make is that I make too large of an adjustment causing me to over fade or over draw.
It's best to start with your driver and fairway woods and for a few rounds attempt to draw every tee shot and fairway wood then switch and hit just fades.
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Post by grinder12000 on Aug 21, 2020 17:28:25 GMT -5
Found the HB video, which isn’t much help. Still looking for details about how much each click affects the curve. Thanks again! CLICK? There is CLICKING in this no game? |
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Post by uberanto on Aug 24, 2020 14:03:21 GMT -5
Hello. Does anyone know how to add draw/fade in the new game, please? For example, I've got a tee shot with a 16mph wind blowing left to right, but there's a big tree right in front of me to the left, where I would ordinarily aim. Can't for the life of me figure out how to add draw to counter the wind.
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Post by Violinguy69 on Aug 24, 2020 16:54:40 GMT -5
Hello. Does anyone know how to add draw/fade in the new game, please? For example, I've got a tee shot with a 16mph wind blowing left to right, but there's a big tree right in front of me to the left, where I would ordinarily aim. Can't for the life of me figure out how to add draw to counter the wind. While holding LB, use RB to move to the right (draw) or to the left (fade). Again, right for draw and left for fade. You read that right. Then adjust your aim to compensate if necessary. |
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Post by uberanto on Aug 25, 2020 0:31:39 GMT -5
Hello. Does anyone know how to add draw/fade in the new game, please? For example, I've got a tee shot with a 16mph wind blowing left to right, but there's a big tree right in front of me to the left, where I would ordinarily aim. Can't for the life of me figure out how to add draw to counter the wind. While holding LB, use RB to move to the right (draw) or to the left (fade). Again, right for draw and left for fade. You read that right. Then adjust your aim to compensate if necessary. Ah right OK, thankyou! |
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