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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 12, 2020 8:10:15 GMT -5
I'm working on my first course. At some point, trying to learn how to do everything, i decided to build a patio near to the clubhouse. Elevated more or less 6 yards and with a swimmingpool. But i encountered 2 main difficulties : 1) I can't find a way to obtain an elevated surface more or less perpendicular to the ground (to close it with a wall to hide the terrain). 2) I can't create a water surface without ruin every surface around. No matter how much elevated i try to create the water surface, the result is always a mess. There is something i'm missing about these 2 points? (Just to talk, i solved both the issues using the roof of 2 buildings and then working on these surfaces. Now i'm really quite satisfied of the result, although i can't change the surface of the floor, in this way. I'll post some pic when i can, to show what i mean, but this method is really a time killer..There's not a faster/easier way to obtain the same result?) Other points i have questions about : 3) I built a complex of waterfalls (i'll post a pic also for this) .There is a way to make TOTALLY invisible the bottom part of the big waterfalls? I don't want to see the strong flow before the water falls, but i can't find a way to obtain it. At least it seems i can only decrease the size of it. I still should try, but it could work if i put the start of it slightly below the level of the water? 4) About the flow, i have problems to change the direction of it : no matters what direction i select, in the end it goes always to south. 5) 3 is the max number of surfaces available to use makinh a course or there is a way to use more of them? Thank you for any help/advice, probably i should ask about more things..and maybe later i'll do, but probably now these are the most important i found. Later, when i'll be again at my pc, i'll post some pic to better explain ehat i mean and what i did. Have a good day guys
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Mar 12, 2020 9:16:34 GMT -5
1) I was going to suggest stacking buildings but you seem to have got that.
2) With the water, place another water body below the surface that you don't want the texture to change. That should help in the future.
3) You can advance edit water falls. Use L3 then the d-pad. I think that'll get the look you want.
4) Not sure.
5) 3 surfaces is it. So plan accordingly and complain to HB.
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Post by lessthanbread on Mar 12, 2020 9:27:23 GMT -5
On #4. I've noticed that happening too when doing hundreds of water bodies using Doubtful's technique. I have found you want to save very often when laying water bodies and changing their flow.. This has helped but there is a lot of going back and fixing before they stay flowing in the direction you want. Kind of weird.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 12, 2020 10:11:51 GMT -5
Thank you 15eicheltower9 and lessthanbread About point 4..then is my fault, actually. I tried to change the flow's direction only several days later i created those waterfalls complex. well..next time.. In short, anyway, do it means that is simply not possible to obtain a perpendicular elevated surface, no matter what kind of brushes you can use? This would be really a stupid limitation. Really. Ah..other point. If i understand well, is impossible also to obtain diagonal surfaces, is correct?
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Mar 12, 2020 10:24:29 GMT -5
Oh, man you've missed a bunch. You're right, the designer can't create perfect square edges. Or 90 degree "walls" of terrain. It's really dumb, isn't it? And on top of that the top part of the retaining wall is so small it barely catches the land around it. As far as diagonal I'm assuming you mean a 45 degree angle. You can create that with a lot of patience and the softest brushes.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 12, 2020 13:13:24 GMT -5
Oh, man you've missed a bunch. You're right, the designer can't create perfect square edges. Or 90 degree "walls" of terrain. It's really dumb, isn't it? And on top of that the top part of the retaining wall is so small it barely catches the land around it. As far as diagonal I'm assuming you mean a 45 degree angle. You can create that with a lot of patience and the softest brushes. I mean..suppose you want to create a creek that runs down through the side of a hill. There is a way to do it? The water surface can be slightly diagonal? Or, other example..I created a little stairway that connects the clubhouse and a garden near the first hole. I would to create also a piece of wall beside the stairway..but walls can't be placed diagonally, so i created a certain number of little pieces of wall to solve the problem, but the while thing has not the same visual effect, of course. Some limit on the editor is really dumb. Also the limits about the flora available for every theme is dumb. But is true that is funny to try to solve all these little issues with some fantasy and punk solutions Ah!! Side question! Some of you guys knows how to upload otger 3d objects on this game? I know is possible cause a guy created a pair of courses using some spaceship from Star Wars, so.. someone knows how to do it? What kind of files is needed, stuff like this.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Mar 12, 2020 13:27:15 GMT -5
That space ship was made using the objects in the game. Wild, huh?
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Post by lessthanbread on Mar 12, 2020 13:59:39 GMT -5
Oh, man you've missed a bunch. You're right, the designer can't create perfect square edges. Or 90 degree "walls" of terrain. It's really dumb, isn't it? And on top of that the top part of the retaining wall is so small it barely catches the land around it. As far as diagonal I'm assuming you mean a 45 degree angle. You can create that with a lot of patience and the softest brushes. I mean..suppose you want to create a creek that runs down through the side of a hill. There is a way to do it? The water surface can be slightly diagonal? Or, other example..I created a little stairway that connects the clubhouse and a garden near the first hole. I would to create also a piece of wall beside the stairway..but walls can't be placed diagonally, so i created a certain number of little pieces of wall to solve the problem, but the while thing has not the same visual effect, of course. Some limit on the editor is really dumb. Also the limits about the flora available for every theme is dumb. But is true that is funny to try to solve all these little issues with some fantasy and punk solutions Ah!! Side question! Some of you guys knows how to upload otger 3d objects on this game? I know is possible cause a guy created a pair of courses using some spaceship from Star Wars, so.. someone knows how to do it? What kind of files is needed, stuff like this. Here is how to do the downhill creek. One of the most useful and best discoveries in the designer in my opinion.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 12, 2020 15:52:39 GMT -5
That space ship was made using the objects in the game. Wild, huh? Oh sh!t...this is not wild. Is just unbelievable. Absurd. I never played these courses (not enough time to play every course as i really, really wish) but now i must. A bit cause i need to see this thing with my eyes..and a lot cause who did it DESERVES to have his course played in every case, for the effort and the fantasy. Is shocking, really. Wow.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 12, 2020 17:47:07 GMT -5
I mean..suppose you want to create a creek that runs down through the side of a hill. There is a way to do it? The water surface can be slightly diagonal? Or, other example..I created a little stairway that connects the clubhouse and a garden near the first hole. I would to create also a piece of wall beside the stairway..but walls can't be placed diagonally, so i created a certain number of little pieces of wall to solve the problem, but the while thing has not the same visual effect, of course. Some limit on the editor is really dumb. Also the limits about the flora available for every theme is dumb. But is true that is funny to try to solve all these little issues with some fantasy and punk solutions Ah!! Side question! Some of you guys knows how to upload otger 3d objects on this game? I know is possible cause a guy created a pair of courses using some spaceship from Star Wars, so.. someone knows how to do it? What kind of files is needed, stuff like this. Here is how to do the downhill creek. One of the most useful and best discoveries in the designer in my opinion. Is unbelievable how many things i miss. This thing will be really, really useful. Thank you mate
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Mar 13, 2020 1:21:36 GMT -5
Here is how to do the downhill creek. One of the most useful and best discoveries in the designer in my opinion. Is unbelievable how many things i miss. This thing will be really, really useful. Thank you mate Thanks for directing Ezzino to my video, lessthanbread. It warms my heart to see people using that technique in their own designs. Regarding the water flow problem you guys were discussing up above, I mentioned it in the video (from about 12:45-16:00), but it's worth repeating here. Basically, whenever you change the flow direction, any water bodies that you have placed previously (since the last time you loaded the course) will follow suit and start flowing in the new direction. To get around this "feature" (flaw), I saved and quit any time the creek changed direction. After reloading the course, any new water panes had no effect on the flow of the ones that I had already placed. I think I neglected to say this in the video, but I would strongly recommend not trying to fix the flow direction of any existing water body -- in my opinion, you're better off deleting and replacing it if at all possible. If you do have to edit them, then I believe that the edit menu will show that the direction is "south" by default. However, the flow direction won't actually change to south unless you click on that option and then try to edit the direction manually from there. That whole process can be quite confusing and annoying, so I think it's best to stay away from the edit menu at all costs. Good luck with your course, Ezzino!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 15, 2020 7:54:16 GMT -5
Two pics, just to show the waterfalls complex and how i solved the problem with the patio. Still there is nothing complete, but i'm happy of what i did, at this point. If some of you more experienced should find some issue, please tell me ehat is wrong and if i can adjust it i'll do. There is another thing i would to ask about. Today i deleted my old fairway on hole 1/18, cause i want to make it better. But, as you can see in this pic, for some reason all the borders are like this. The strange thing is that there is nothing near enough to justofy this mess..the elevation changes are minimal and it looks like this from the start, immediately after i closed the spines. Someone knows why it happens? And how i can solve this issue (and to avoid to let it happen again )
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Mar 15, 2020 8:55:34 GMT -5
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 15, 2020 9:14:22 GMT -5
This was fast Really..thank you!! I don't know if to be happy or angry for this thing. At least is not my fault as i suspected and is already something..but this sounds like another stupid time killer. Is correct if i suppose that if i should just delete that fairway and try to do it again, those wave probably will be there again?
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Mar 15, 2020 9:20:26 GMT -5
Delete the heavy rough brushes. Using multiselect will make short work of it. Use second surface on your fairway spline. Adjust the width so it fills that thin area. You shouldn't have to brush any of it in that spot.
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