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Post by CongoGB on Feb 26, 2015 4:15:39 GMT -5
Whoa, from I've gone from 87 to 57! I'm liking the new rankings! Well done for changing it guys.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 4:39:47 GMT -5
I just saw the other thread from Tim, so just disregard my earlier posts here, as I found out that I is infact going to Doral!  Tickets booked! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 4:56:51 GMT -5
25th in the WR for me. I should probably be a bit lower because my performances haven't been great. Thanks for everything guys, keep it up!  |
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Post by jeffvadersith on Feb 26, 2015 4:58:45 GMT -5
Very glad this change was made AFTER i had qualified for Cadillac wgc otherwise i wouldnt be going! Dropped from 54 to 112 rank! Not complaining though, whatever is the fairest ranking system for everyone is obviously the way to go
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Post by JP_G0Pr0 on Feb 26, 2015 5:08:29 GMT -5
I'm confuse yesterday WGR is 53rd but now 111st ,before week7(Northern Trust Open) I've stay 108th Then after finish I've made 8th place on week7 why's that?
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Post by Pubknight on Feb 26, 2015 7:18:18 GMT -5
I'm confuse yesterday WGR is 53rd but now 111st ,before week7(Northern Trust Open) I've stay 108th Then after finish I've made 8th place on week7 why's that? Jek, you can't really look at it that way. They re-did the whole formula, and applied it retroactively. Your recent high finish didn't drop you, it raised your ranking, by a *lot*. You would have to look at your total retroactively adjusted ranking history to put it all in the proper context: www.tgctours.com/Player/Overview/8151(scroll down to the chart to see the revised history) |
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Post by JP_G0Pr0 on Feb 26, 2015 7:36:47 GMT -5
I'm confuse yesterday WGR is 53rd but now 111st ,before week7(Northern Trust Open) I've stay 108th Then after finish I've made 8th place on week7 why's that? Jek, you can't really look at it that way. They re-did the whole formula, and applied it retroactively. Your recent high finish didn't drop you, it raised your ranking, by a *lot*. You would have to look at your total retroactively adjusted ranking history to put it all in the proper context: www.tgctours.com/Player/Overview/8151(scroll down to the chart to see the revised history) Ok,Thank you |
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Post by mcbogga on Feb 27, 2015 6:37:06 GMT -5
I also put in the following to handle " recent performance" - Now the points will only pull the last 13 weeks worth of points + (avg of all your points over a 2-year outside of the most recent 13) period.
- This is how the real OWGR handles the recent performance factor
THANKS!!
Tim, I don't think that's how the ranking "decay" is handled IRL: Cut the below from Wikipedia. " Adjusted rankings For the first 13 weeks after an event the player receives the full ranking points earned in that event. However from then onwards they are reduced in equal weekly increments over the remainder of a two-year period. This gives priority to recent form. Each week the ranking points are reduced by a factor of 1/92 (approximately 1.09%) so that in week 14 only 98.91% of the ranking points are credited, continuing until week 104 when only 1.09% is credited. From week 105 the ranking points are completely lost." If you just use one average added on after week 13 the ratings are very "front heavy" and there is almost no influence of older performances. |
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 27, 2015 21:58:35 GMT -5
So I have a Hypothetical situation. Lets say you play your first two rounds of a tournament and then withdraw for whatever reason... How does this effect the WGR rankings? 1. Does playing in a tournament and missing the cut, hurt you more in the WGC than withdrawing from the tournament? I ask this cause I have seen players who have played two rounds, posted on the website they shot horribly and suddenly when you check on them it says WD. I'm not sure why when it should be a MC (missed cut). So I'm wondering if the reason these people have done this is to somehow keep points in the WGR. Of course I don't know this for sure which is why i'm asking the question. Pros withdraw from tournaments for all sorts of reason, before and after the cut, but I don't many (if not many) finish Thurs/Fri, realize they are way behind and decide not to sign their scorecard and withdraw from the tourney. Meh who knows. Thanks in advance. |
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Post by Brionne on Feb 28, 2015 1:58:31 GMT -5
So I have a Hypothetical situation. Lets say you play your first two rounds of a tournament and then withdraw for whatever reason... How does this effect the WGR rankings? 1. Does playing in a tournament and missing the cut, hurt you more in the WGC than withdrawing from the tournament? I ask this cause I have seen players who have played two rounds, posted on the website they shot horribly and suddenly when you check on them it says WD. I'm not sure why when it should be a MC (missed cut). So I'm wondering if the reason these people have done this is to somehow keep points in the WGR. Of course I don't know this for sure which is why i'm asking the question. Pros withdraw from tournaments for all sorts of reason, before and after the cut, but I don't many (if not many) finish Thurs/Fri, realize they are way behind and decide not to sign their scorecard and withdraw from the tourney. Meh who knows. Thanks in advance. From how I understand Tim's breakdown... Missing the cut, but finishing your two rounds will still earn you 3, 2, or 1 point(s) depending on your finishing position outside of the cut, along with the SOF multiplier.. Therefore it would be obvious that actually posting your scores and missing the cut is far better than withdrawing, since withdrawing will earn you nothing.. Withdrawing would probably also affect the overall SOF and reduce it. Not only is the withdrawee losing out on WGR ranking points, they are potentially lowering the SOF for the tournament. I've seen a few players post 1 round.. didn't do so well, then didn't bother posting the second.. It's unfortunate and destroys the integrity of the leaderboard. Keep in mind, this WGR system is new and improved and cannot be compared to the previous one. I think Tim is right on the money with this one This is in no way an official answer, just my two cents and how I understand it. The admin staff are the only ones who can give you a definitive answer |
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 28, 2015 3:37:55 GMT -5
From how I understand Tim's breakdown... Missing the cut, but finishing your two rounds will still earn you 3, 2, or 1 point(s) depending on your finishing position outside of the cut, along with the SOF multiplier.. Therefore it would be obvious that actually posting your scores and missing the cut is far better than withdrawing, since withdrawing will earn you nothing.. Withdrawing would probably also affect the overall SOF and reduce it. Not only is the withdrawee losing out on WGR ranking points, they are potentially lowering the SOF for the tournament. I've seen a few players post 1 round.. didn't do so well, then didn't bother posting the second.. It's unfortunate and destroys the integrity of the leaderboard. Keep in mind, this WGR system is new and improved and cannot be compared to the previous one. I think Tim is right on the money with this one This is in know way an official answer, just my two cents and how I understand it. The admin staff are the only ones who can give you a definitive answer What you say makes sense and that is what I figured, but I thought I would ask cause I didn't want someone gaming the system. |
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Post by rod81simo on Feb 28, 2015 3:42:43 GMT -5
When Tim stated that points up to 100th position for tournament results were to be awarded I thought to myself that right there is the incentive to post all scores even for a missed cut which is what was needed as there were a lot of DNF results being displayed for no real setback
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 6:59:03 GMT -5
From how I understand Tim's breakdown... Missing the cut, but finishing your two rounds will still earn you 3, 2, or 1 point(s) depending on your finishing position outside of the cut, along with the SOF multiplier.. Therefore it would be obvious that actually posting your scores and missing the cut is far better than withdrawing, since withdrawing will earn you nothing.. Withdrawing would probably also affect the overall SOF and reduce it. Not only is the withdrawee losing out on WGR ranking points, they are potentially lowering the SOF for the tournament. I've seen a few players post 1 round.. didn't do so well, then didn't bother posting the second.. It's unfortunate and destroys the integrity of the leaderboard. Keep in mind, this WGR system is new and improved and cannot be compared to the previous one. I think Tim is right on the money with this one This is in no way an official answer, just my two cents and how I understand it. The admin staff are the only ones who can give you a definitive answer Only way I could see it making a difference is if there was some kind of divisor in the system that divides total number of points by the tournaments he/she has played over a certain period. In that case not having the 1,2 or 3 points in the divisor would help you if you were higher up the list. However like you I know nothing. |
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