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Post by lions67 on Jul 31, 2019 22:51:54 GMT -5
If the rule was that players who used only Master Clubs were competing only against other players who only used Master Clubs to avoid demotion strikes, then players who switch clubs during the event would be at a disadvantage. They'd be competing against only players who used Pro Clubs for at least one round - most of whom would have used Pro Clubs for all 4 rounds. Switching to this rule for demotion marks (it is already in place for promotion marks) would eliminate the argument about this entirely. Players would only switch if it made the game more enjoyable, as they would be at a competitive disadvantage. I’m not sure if you are for my point or against it honestly. I’m not even talking about competitive disadvantages. I’m talking about the integrity of the spirt of the game. Start with a set, finish with that set.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 31, 2019 22:59:11 GMT -5
I’m not sure if you are for my point or against it honestly. I’m not even talking about competitive disadvantages. I’m talking about the integrity of the spirt of the game. Start with a set, finish with that set. I am suggesting that adjusting the demotion mark rule to mirror the promotion mark rule makes this entire discussion moot. And I think that's the way to go.
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Post by lions67 on Jul 31, 2019 23:02:14 GMT -5
I’m not sure if you are for my point or against it honestly. I’m not even talking about competitive disadvantages. I’m talking about the integrity of the spirt of the game. Start with a set, finish with that set. I am suggesting that adjusting the demotion mark rule to mirror the promotion mark rule makes this entire discussion moot. And I think that's the way to go. Ok then. As long as the adjustment is for the master club user. Then sure Actually it still doesn’t address the issue of switching back and forth. Why have a rule that states that you MUST use master clubs if you want to advance past CC-A? Unless!!... the tours don’t actually matter until you get to that point? That’s even worse!
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 31, 2019 23:48:48 GMT -5
Why have a rule that states that you MUST use master clubs if you want to advance past CC-A? That rule has not been in place since week 4. Players using Pro Clubs can be promoted to Web.com, where they are required to use Master Clubs.
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Post by lions67 on Jul 31, 2019 23:59:58 GMT -5
Why have a rule that states that you MUST use master clubs if you want to advance past CC-A? That rule has not been in place since week 4. Players using Pro Clubs can be promoted to Web.com, where they are required to use Master Clubs. My bad. Still, my point remains.
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Post by 1958model on Aug 1, 2019 3:10:24 GMT -5
I support jWtexan's views 100%. Split Master & Pro clubs. What he is doing going back to pro's until necessary to switch to masters, is what I am doing. Let us compete on equal terms with each other. There are no arguments or the like with regards to clubs used in the i.e. beginners, PGA, Euro-tours. Let us do the same in CC please.
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Post by wellsa27 on Aug 1, 2019 5:01:42 GMT -5
Apart from the clubs/promotion issues, then I'm happy.
Needs to be a promotion system per console, which I've mentioned in another post.
Essentially the top 5 per ps4/xbox/pc on pro clubs gets a point and the same for the top 5 masters.
You'll then see an even spread across consoles.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 1, 2019 7:21:00 GMT -5
Apart from the clubs/promotion issues, then I'm happy. Needs to be a promotion system per console, which I've mentioned in another post. Essentially the top 5 per ps4/xbox/pc on pro clubs gets a point and the same for the top 5 masters. You'll then see an even spread across consoles. I'm a PC player, using pro clubs. I have not checked every flight, but on cc-b the PC players are more or less 20. I don't remember how much are using pro or master clubs. But I suppose that in every flight we're less than the 15-20% of players, more or less. With this rule, I could be promoted even ending a tournament in 45-50th place. Maybe even with a worst standing. It seems a bit unfairly easy, honestly. This rule it could be pretty good if the players for every system could be more or less the same number. Reality is that we have not easy solution, here. I really don't envy our admins.
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Post by wellsa27 on Aug 1, 2019 7:27:17 GMT -5
Apart from the clubs/promotion issues, then I'm happy. Needs to be a promotion system per console, which I've mentioned in another post. Essentially the top 5 per ps4/xbox/pc on pro clubs gets a point and the same for the top 5 masters. You'll then see an even spread across consoles. I'm a PC player, using pro clubs. I have not checked every flight, but on cc-b the PC players are more or less 20. I don't remember how much are using pro or master clubs. But I suppose that in every flight we're less than the 15-20% of players, more or less. With this rule, I could be promoted even ending a tournament in 45-50th place. Maybe even with a worst standing. It seems a bit unfairly easy, honestly. This rule it could be pretty good if the players for every system could be more or less the same number. Reality is that we have not easy solution, here. I really don't envy our admins. The number could be amended depending on an average/percentage of total players in each tour.
I just think to solve without creating separate tours it's best to give marks to system users perhaps.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 1, 2019 7:30:37 GMT -5
I'm a PC player, using pro clubs. I have not checked every flight, but on cc-b the PC players are more or less 20. I don't remember how much are using pro or master clubs. But I suppose that in every flight we're less than the 15-20% of players, more or less. With this rule, I could be promoted even ending a tournament in 45-50th place. Maybe even with a worst standing. It seems a bit unfairly easy, honestly. This rule it could be pretty good if the players for every system could be more or less the same number. Reality is that we have not easy solution, here. I really don't envy our admins. The number could be amended depending on an average/percentage of total players in each tour.
I just think to solve without creating separate tours it's best to give marks to system users perhaps.
Furthermore, I personally don't want to compete just with less than 10 PC pro clubs users. I like how it works now.
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Post by CongoGB on Aug 6, 2019 6:32:48 GMT -5
My thoughts:
CC tours are fine. The filtered leaderboards do nothing for me, as they are just filters of the full leaderboard and pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things (promotion, earnings, etc.).
My biggest gripe is with the game itself, and the unfairness of using Masters on XB1. I think a lot of us are just treading water until a new version of the game appears and hopefully levels all that again.
Is it worth TGCT changing stuff in the meantime? For me, maybe doing a "Pro only" tour for next season would make me more interested again, but it would only need to be until the next game gets released.
Until then, I'm just mindlessly whacking balls, as going to Masters again and getting promoted is a waste of time and an utter frustration - not what the game and the tour is meant to be about.
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Post by grinder12000 on Aug 7, 2019 12:13:04 GMT -5
I think that if a person has a 2+ DEMOTION marks AND rank in the area of getting a PROMOTION mark - they should get TWO demo marks taken away.
And I only say that since I see I'm 2nd in MASTER CLUBS in this weeks event.
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Post by mart280 on Aug 21, 2019 15:24:08 GMT -5
Mouse users should get double promo marks.....😉
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