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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 8:29:31 GMT -5
I have previously looked at the amount of aim correction needed for hitting off a side slope, and was curious about how much effect an up or down slope lie had on carry distance.
EXPERIMENTAL DESIGN:
Using Master Clubs, on flat fairway texture, with wind at 1-3 mph against, I built an identical upslope and downslope. Although I do not know the angle of the slope, the Lie Indicator showed red with rapid movement. I hit clubs off of these, still maintaining an elevation difference from the fairway of less than four feet. I also hit balls off a flat lie. I hit enough balls with each club with a perfect/perfect tempo and on the line to get a consistent carry distance (probably + or - one yard).
RESULTS:
CLUB FLAT UPSLOPE DOWNSLOPE
2W 241 241 241
5I 191 191 191
9I 148 142 150
LW 96 89 98
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
It appears that up/down slope has no detectable effect on the longer clubs that I tried. I was too lazy to find the club where this changes (somewhere between 6 to 8 iron). For the shorter clubs there is an effect, with it being more evident on upslope. It follows how real golf works, with upslope shots being shorter due to more loft, and downslope longer. Since this is a pretty severe upslope however, I am pretty sure that yellow and green slopes have a minimal effect.
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Post by OldSouled on Jul 26, 2019 21:35:18 GMT -5
I’ve always wondered how the down and upslope affected distance. This is really helpful! Thanks.
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Post by ohheycat on Jul 27, 2019 7:29:41 GMT -5
Repeat your experiment with longer clubs into a 15 mph headwind/tailwind. You can thank me later
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 16:37:23 GMT -5
Repeat your experiment with longer clubs into a 15 mph headwind/tailwind. You can thank me later Perhaps a kind man would provide the information he obviously already has, instead of making me repeat his experiment. THEN I would thank you later
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 17:21:17 GMT -5
I hope you factored in the quadrahederal phenomenon. Many don't..
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Post by ohheycat on Jul 27, 2019 17:42:34 GMT -5
The magnus effect as well. It is essential to consider how the drag the golf ball experiences changes based on different spin rates, whether backspin or sidespin. Only then can you really dial it in. I'd give you my chart but I don't have one. I just do a quick sin calc and a derivative sort of logarthmic(ish) for the wind to get my carry yardage.
In case you're wondering this post is nothing more than a waste of time but I'm between calls and have it to waste. Happy golfing.
As far as the longer clubs goes, using the loft(lie) and wind together allows distance control. Loft if you want the wind to have more effect, or deloft for the opposite. Depending on the wind severity delofting into the wind can still make you lose distance but it just takes time to find where that threshold is. I may have given a hint earlier. But all I was saying is that the same principal applies to to the lie, which explains why hole 16 has ccam scrambling this week (I am on ccam BCT4LYFE)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 7:20:54 GMT -5
Waste of time is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:58:44 GMT -5
Repeat your experiment with longer clubs into a 15 mph headwind/tailwind. You can thank me later Out of pure curiosity I did just that. It is much more of a PITA than the original study because you can't just "play from here" in the Course Creator, you have to actually set up a local match using you Unpublished Course to be able to select wind speed and direction, then use "unplayable" to keep hitting from the same spot. Anyway, the results seem to point away from ohheydogs comment. See below: Wind at 11 - 13 Mph (high) using the same slope and method as the original study. Carry distance is + or - 2 yards because of the difficulty in getting the exact moment the ball hits the ground on these longer, faster moving hits. CLUB WIND AGAINST WIND WITH UP FLAT DOWN UP FLAT DOWN 2W 232 231 234 261 261 266 5I 176 176 181 201 201 201
The results show some variation but it is less than 4% at most for the 5I. Again, this is on a red slope, so I would expect yellow and green slopes to have essentially no effect on these clubs.
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Post by ohheycat on Jul 28, 2019 10:25:55 GMT -5
Interesting. Guess I'm thanking you later
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