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Post by Eduarshk on Jul 23, 2019 20:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by Eduarshk on Jul 24, 2019 12:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by hmammoth on Jul 24, 2019 17:16:41 GMT -5
From tee to green, this course is a beautiful course, looks great, plays fantastic and feels like a real golf course. The problems arise though when I came to the greens. First I want to point out, I played pin set 4, their might not be the same issues with the other pin sets. So many of the pin positions were right next to slopes with yellow lines, a few that would be considered illegal pins on tgctours because the pin was on the slopes. A couple of reasons you should keep a eye on this in the future. First, you will lose plays, if people are dropping shot because of unfair pin positions, they might not finish their rounds. Second, variety, if every pin seems the same, it gets boring fast. I plan to check out another pin set soon but 4 does have issues. And it such a shame because honestly, this is a great course. Is it your first? Because if it is, then I am even more impressed. I would still recommend people go check this out, just maybe avoid pin set 4.
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Post by Eduarshk on Jul 24, 2019 18:26:35 GMT -5
From tee to green, this course is a beautiful course, looks great, plays fantastic and feels like a real golf course. The problems arise though when I came to the greens. First I want to point out, I played pin set 4, their might not be the same issues with the other pin sets. So many of the pin positions were right next to slopes with yellow lines, a few that would be considered illegal pins on tgctours because the pin was on the slopes. A couple of reasons you should keep a eye on this in the future. First, you will lose plays, if people are dropping shot because of unfair pin positions, they might not finish their rounds. Second, variety, if every pin seems the same, it gets boring fast. I plan to check out another pin set soon but 4 does have issues. And it such a shame because honestly, this is a great course. Is it your first? Because if it is, then I am even more impressed. I would still recommend people go check this out, just maybe avoid pin set 4. I want to thank you very, very much your kind words, because after those invested hours designing it, this lines feels and are a Great Reward. Thank you sir! Yes, this is my first course. Also, I hear you about the slopes on the greens, I knew that those pin placements would be a dangerous bet, but always trying to be fair to the real one, and the reality is that this course has some interesting greens, so I'd rather took a liiiittle yellow risk. ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Several pins are near yellows but at the same time El Jaguar has big fairways and big greens and the real challenge its on the greens. Again, I thank you for taking the time not just for playing it, for this kind review and Im taking your recommendations very serious, Ill put them on practice in my next course, you can bet on that. By the way it probably will be a fictional. Cheers... forgive the grammar...
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Jul 25, 2019 8:27:20 GMT -5
Hi! I played some minute ago your course. And first of all, I wish to tell you that in my opinion you deserve for sure some esteem, cause is quite rare to find a designer that start his "career" creating a real course. Furthermore, you choose a really nice course but for sure also a quite tough one to recreate, considering how much particular and complicated is the routing of this course. And how much water is involved. The course is enjoyable but please consider that I'm not a designer, then any observation on your work on some "technical" side would be totally useless. Looking at the real course, there's some inaccuracy here and there on bunkers and greens shape, but trust me if I say that they are maybe 5-6, the designers that without lidar are really accurate on these things, so your is absolutely a really good first work, on this side. So said, if i can offer to you a (I hope constructive) critic and an advice, is to work a lot more on the shape of the water hazards (the ponds, mainly). Checking the real course, they seems to be the only thing a bit too inaccurate. But, considering how much they are in this course, this inaccuracy inficiate not only the precision on the routing of the course, but also the shape of some fairway and hole (as it happens on 6, 12 and 14). Your par 3s are really good to see and to play. I think that if this is your first course, quite soon you'll be able to create some really great course. I hope you'll try again to create some other RCR, cause we need more designers who can do this. Especially if they are courses outside USA and UK, cause we miss too many great course from so many great places (south America, Africa and Asia mainly) ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) (Ah..as a minor question..on the hole 17, it could be possible that the great bunker at the left of the green it should be a pond?) In the end..thank you for your effort. I enjoyed your course. And..insist! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Eduarshk on Jul 25, 2019 14:15:40 GMT -5
Hi! I played some minute ago your course. And first of all, I wish to tell you that in my opinion you deserve for sure some esteem, cause is quite rare to find a designer that start his "career" creating a real course. Furthermore, you choose a really nice course but for sure also a quite tough one to recreate, considering how much particular and complicated is the routing of this course. And how much water is involved... Hi ezzinomilonga, Thank you very much for your comments, and for sure are taken in the most positive way! Im glad that more people are playing El Jaguar. You are absolutely CORRECT in the inaccuracy on my part in the attempt to recreate this. If you google the course right now you'll be watching some clearly differences. The course has changed a lot in the past years, cause The Country Club has grown a lot and are many new houses to live, new holes adaptations like tee placements, bunkers, etc. and different aspects focused on the real estate. For instance, between holes 9 and 7 now is full of houses, a few years ago there was nothing there. I based myself trying to make this design in the original course, or in other words, the first version of it. where, like you correctly said, now there is a pond in hole 17, where it used to be a big bunker, like in mine (making it the only par 3 with no water), I preferred some aspects of that version for playability, Some ponds are man made and another ones are natural. For instance, near the green of the 6th, nowadays there's a big house very close to it, I preferred the version where nothin was there. And of course its hard to do it 100% accurate only by the eye. But the great thing about it is that the next time that you visit Mexico and find yourself near Mérida Yucatan, like in the Rivera Maya o Cancún, probably in your mind it will be the idea of taking a day to visit El Jaguar and play in one of the most beautiful golf courses in Mexico. Thank you very much for taking the time to play it and write this great review. Cheers...
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Jul 26, 2019 2:31:23 GMT -5
For sure, to create a course using only eyes, memory and photos is really hard. Even when you live near the course you're working on. Is this the reason why are so few, the guys who tries it. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Thank you for the explanations, is always interesting to know this kind of things. And I really like this course, so I hope you'll try again with some other course. Good luck ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Eduarshk on Aug 5, 2019 12:41:17 GMT -5
Thank you very much for these video reviews guys!, I really appreciate it. Mr Bellamy Golf
JimGemCheers...
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