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Post by JosiaDB on Feb 20, 2019 10:06:54 GMT -5
Scenario-
You are just off the green, in rough, so you can't use your putter. You are about 5-10 yards from the hole, and the green is sloping downhill, away from you. I see this all the time. What do you do?
What I try, is to back off on the power, and if I'm in the leagues that allow the loft box, I'll loft it a little to pop the ball up and attempt to slow the ball down.
But half the time, the ball hits low, and it ends up rolling a mile.
What causes this, so I can fix it, or is there a better way of hitting this shot?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:00:40 GMT -5
Scenario-
You are just off the green, in rough, so you can't use your putter. You are about 5-10 yards from the hole, and the green is sloping downhill, away from you. I see this all the time. What do you do?
What I try, is to back off on the power, and if I'm in the leagues that allow the loft box, I'll loft it a little to pop the ball up and attempt to slow the ball down.
But half the time, the ball hits low, and it ends up rolling a mile.
What causes this, so I can fix it, or is there a better way of hitting this shot?
I have hit really low power max loft flops in these situations. But as in real life certain areas you just can't get up and down from. Depending on how severe the slope is your best hope is just to jar it. Sometimes you might have think out of the box and go into damage control mode, just leaving yourself the most makeable putt you can find. It still depends on a number of factors though so it's hard to exactly what I would have done without seeing the whole picture |
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Post by mde8965 on Feb 20, 2019 11:37:34 GMT -5
Fully lofted low power (very quick swing) flop shot. So hard to control power but always err on the too low power side of it. Knowing worst that can happen is it does not go far enough and ends up on the fringe. At least then I can putt (albeit downhill)
On soft/slow greens though in this situation I might fully loft a chip and hope it doesn’t roll too far past, knowing if it goes past my putt will be uphill.
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Post by JosiaDB on Feb 20, 2019 14:57:54 GMT -5
When this works, the ball actually does go up in a lofted arc.
Part of the time though, I can see the ball does not loft into the air near as high, and it rolls further then. Exactly like you'd expect it to if it didn't have as much loft under it.
What causes this?
Is it built into the game to sometimes mis hit shots and they would do things like this?
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Post by gopreds66 on Feb 20, 2019 15:33:07 GMT -5
It could be because it's in the rough. Full iron shots out of heavy rough seem to have much lower trajectory in the game, so why not chips???
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Post by JosiaDB on Feb 21, 2019 8:54:10 GMT -5
It could be because it's in the rough. Full iron shots out of heavy rough seem to have much lower trajectory in the game, so why not chips??? good point!! hmm, I didn't think about that! I'll start paying attention and see if I'm seeing this happen on heavy rough, vs. light rough or fairway. |
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Feb 21, 2019 14:12:39 GMT -5
In general try to avoid leaving yourself in those positions. If it's really close to the edge of the rough you can putt it, it take a little practice to judge it right. I tend to loft a LW chip shot and try to hit it soft but basically accept that it's gonna roll by the hole and at least I'll have an uphill putt at it, even if a long one. In TGC2 or even the original physics of this game the short flop was too easy, currently I don't mess with it, but I guess it is working for others
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Post by jaws1948 on Feb 22, 2019 8:07:50 GMT -5
I fully loft a chip with the lob wedge and then pause at the top of the backswing. This produces a slow or even very slow backswing which greatly reduces the distance.
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Post by JosiaDB on Feb 22, 2019 10:07:32 GMT -5
I fully loft a chip with the lob wedge and then pause at the top of the backswing. This produces a slow or even very slow backswing which greatly reduces the distance. wow, thanks!!
I have done that trick with the flop, to get a 16-18 yd flop out of a 24 yd club, and never thought about applying the same concept to the 9 yd chip to make it shorter.
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Post by jaws1948 on Feb 22, 2019 10:39:54 GMT -5
Actually, from a flat lie, fully lofted chip with an LW with no delay at the top will give you just about 9 yds. Unless the green slopes away. Delay works well when you need only 5 or 6 yds.
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Post by LKeet6 on Feb 23, 2019 7:04:04 GMT -5
Actually, from a flat lie, fully lofted chip with an LW with no delay at the top will give you just about 9 yds. Unless the green slopes away. Delay works well when you need only 5 or 6 yds. I've gotten pretty good at just taking some off it on the backswing to get 4-8yds, but i might experiment with a super slow backswing too... Full loft is pretty much always the way to go, in almost any chip, in my opinion, because too much power is way more common than too little; I guess that's within my method tho... On longer chips (15-25yds,) I sometimes let it role out; I've gotten decent at distance measurement. But the state of the greens (some of which you can judge) will have a big effect on what happens. |
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