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Post by surdoux on Oct 23, 2018 14:56:03 GMT -5
I play 'real' golf to a decent standard, but now aged 71, have stopped playing with blades and stiff shafts in order to get enjoyment out of the game. TGC is the same, but in reverse, that I need to get better before I can move up to pro and master clubs. (I play on PC with a mouse and keyboard). In TGC2, I played to a decent standard with Tour clubs, with a handicap of around +20, but cannot, at present, perform at anywhere near the same standard. I played the Bede course with master clubs and scored plus 20 and did not enjoy it one little bit. Beginner clubs, around par, more enjoyable, gives a little bit of encouragement to carry on playing. I hate what they have done with the mouse settings, but still love TGC. But if I cannot improve with Tour clubs in the future - and I will try - and will practice - then I shall be leaving the game and try to find something else to play and enjoy.
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Post by steamerandy64 on Oct 31, 2018 20:13:34 GMT -5
am i the only one that uses beginners? I cant hit the pros to save my life... Dont worry about it dude. I used beginner clubs for ages on tgc1 and tgc2, then found designers were creating longer courses that you couldn't reach tje fairways with even from forward tees, so had to eventually move up to player clubs. Now with the new game ive switched up to masters. Still learning them but scores improving. A friend gave me a tip saying dont try to hit the player/master clubs any different to beginners. Seems to work. At the end of the day its down to perseverance and practice. Your scores will take a hammering but will get better, whether it takes you a month or six. You have to go with what you're comfortable with. |
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Post by andy6467 on Nov 8, 2018 13:14:06 GMT -5
am i the only one that uses beginners? I cant hit the pros to save my life... Dont worry about it dude. I used beginner clubs for ages on tgc1 and tgc2, then found designers were creating longer courses that you couldn't reach tje fairways with even from forward tees, so had to eventually move up to player clubs. Now with the new game ive switched up to masters. Still learning them but scores improving. A friend gave me a tip saying dont try to hit the player/master clubs any different to beginners. Seems to work. At the end of the day its down to perseverance and practice. Your scores will take a hammering but will get better, whether it takes you a month or six. You have to go with what you're comfortable with. Agree...the courses are longer which make the masters clubs more advantageous (if not a requirement). I didnt practice at all before Q school and paid the price for it but every score seems to get better and better. I now have to make sure that i dont automatically pull the driver out of the bag on the tee but instead play whatever the hole gives me (i.e. use a 3 wood or 5 wood off the tee to hit the fairway). The next challenge is adjusting to the wind and elevation changes as their effects seem different than TGC1 and TGC2. I dont use a chart (and really dont want to). On the positive side, I do find that putting is easier (not sure why) and that the first cut of rough is much more forgiving than it was in TGC1 and TGC2. Maybe its just me. |
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Post by andy6467 on Nov 8, 2018 13:20:43 GMT -5
I play 'real' golf to a decent standard, but now aged 71, have stopped playing with blades and stiff shafts in order to get enjoyment out of the game. TGC is the same, but in reverse, that I need to get better before I can move up to pro and master clubs. (I play on PC with a mouse and keyboard). In TGC2, I played to a decent standard with Tour clubs, with a handicap of around +20, but cannot, at present, perform at anywhere near the same standard. I played the Bede course with master clubs and scored plus 20 and did not enjoy it one little bit. Beginner clubs, around par, more enjoyable, gives a little bit of encouragement to carry on playing. I hate what they have done with the mouse settings, but still love TGC. But if I cannot improve with Tour clubs in the future - and I will try - and will practice - then I shall be leaving the game and try to find something else to play and enjoy. I didnt practice much before the Q school and was also shooting +20 with the Masters clubs at Bede. It took me about 25-30 rounds to shoot par using the Masters clubs on courses that were not as tough as Bedes. They are definitely much more difficult but not impossible with practice (if you want to spend the time practicing). |
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Post by steamerandy64 on Nov 8, 2018 14:53:28 GMT -5
Dont worry about it dude. I used beginner clubs for ages on tgc1 and tgc2, then found designers were creating longer courses that you couldn't reach tje fairways with even from forward tees, so had to eventually move up to player clubs. Now with the new game ive switched up to masters. Still learning them but scores improving. A friend gave me a tip saying dont try to hit the player/master clubs any different to beginners. Seems to work. At the end of the day its down to perseverance and practice. Your scores will take a hammering but will get better, whether it takes you a month or six. You have to go with what you're comfortable with. Agree...the courses are longer which make the masters clubs more advantageous (if not a requirement). I didnt practice at all before Q school and paid the price for it but every score seems to get better and better. I now have to make sure that i dont automatically pull the driver out of the bag on the tee but instead play whatever the hole gives me (i.e. use a 3 wood or 5 wood off the tee to hit the fairway). The next challenge is adjusting to the wind and elevation changes as their effects seem different than TGC1 and TGC2. I dont use a chart (and really dont want to). On the positive side, I do find that putting is easier (not sure why) and that the first cut of rough is much more forgiving than it was in TGC1 and TGC2. Maybe its just me. I think they have made it easier to play out of the rough this year whether it be light rough or heavy rough. I'm getting just as many p/p shots out of the rough than the fairways. Rule of thumb seems to be 3ft of elevation equals 1yd allowance. ie, 30ft elevation change equals 10yds difference. Same with the wind, for every 1mph of wind allow 1yd of distance. But the wind/elevation dont always play( its a hb game after all). You probably already know this, but its just an easier way to work out than charts. Nothing is exact even with charts, too many variables come into play. |
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Post by andy6467 on Nov 8, 2018 15:07:09 GMT -5
Agree...the courses are longer which make the masters clubs more advantageous (if not a requirement). I didnt practice at all before Q school and paid the price for it but every score seems to get better and better. I now have to make sure that i dont automatically pull the driver out of the bag on the tee but instead play whatever the hole gives me (i.e. use a 3 wood or 5 wood off the tee to hit the fairway). The next challenge is adjusting to the wind and elevation changes as their effects seem different than TGC1 and TGC2. I dont use a chart (and really dont want to). On the positive side, I do find that putting is easier (not sure why) and that the first cut of rough is much more forgiving than it was in TGC1 and TGC2. Maybe its just me. I think they have made it easier to play out of the rough this year whether it be light rough or heavy rough. I'm getting just as many p/p shots out of the rough than the fairways. Rule of thumb seems to be 3ft of elevation equals 1yd allowance. ie, 30ft elevation change equals 10yds difference. Same with the wind, for every 1mph of wind allow 1yd of distance. But the wind/elevation dont always play( its a hb game after all). You probably already know this, but its just an easier way to work out than charts. Nothing is exact even with charts, too many variables come into play. |
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Post by andy6467 on Nov 8, 2018 15:13:34 GMT -5
I think they have made it easier to play out of the rough this year whether it be light rough or heavy rough. I'm getting just as many p/p shots out of the rough than the fairways. Rule of thumb seems to be 3ft of elevation equals 1yd allowance. ie, 30ft elevation change equals 10yds difference. Same with the wind, for every 1mph of wind allow 1yd of distance. But the wind/elevation dont always play( its a hb game after all). You probably already know this, but its just an easier way to work out than charts. Nothing is exact even with charts, too many variables come into play. Agree...the rough, or at least the first cut, is more playable. I use the same conversion amounts for the wind and the elevation but i think that there is more emphasis on the ball striking in TGC19 (or maybe is the masters vs. beginners clubs). If you miss the "cone" now, the ball might still fly straight but it seems to me that you lose on the distance to a greater degree than in previous versions. Also, I am finding that it is more difficult to judge the distance out of the sand. In TGC2, it seemed like an 80% lie using a 30 yd club would result in 24 yard in distance on a more regular basis. In TGC19, it seems like the 80% lie has less of an impact. |
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Post by Snakeyes on Nov 8, 2018 17:41:45 GMT -5
I'll keep playing the beginner clubs and move up to the pro clubs if I need more of a challenge. I still have a crooked swing line using an Xbox One controller on a PC. It is seldom close to a straight line, but my swing tempo is generally good. I may try a PS4 dualshock controller and see if that improves my chances for a straighter line. IDK, can you use a PS4 dualshock controller on a PC via the USB port? I enjoy virtual golf and I find it relaxing to play. TGC Tours makes it more interesting as scores are posted and I can compare results/track improvement. If I'm having fun and continually finish near the end of the CC-Z flight, so be it. It's a game and it should be entertaining.
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Post by steamerandy64 on Nov 8, 2018 18:17:16 GMT -5
Agree...the rough, or at least the first cut, is more playable. I use the same conversion amounts for the wind and the elevation but i think that there is more emphasis on the ball striking in TGC19 (or maybe is the masters vs. beginners clubs). If you miss the "cone" now, the ball might still fly straight but it seems to me that you lose on the distance to a greater degree than in previous versions. Also, I am finding that it is more difficult to judge the distance out of the sand. In TGC2, it seemed like an 80% lie using a 30 yd club would result in 24 yard in distance on a more regular basis. In TGC19, it seems like the 80% lie has less of an impact. Playing out of sand. Give it a little touch of loft, not much though. Seems to be more consistent. |
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