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Post by andy6467 on Sept 29, 2018 15:11:57 GMT -5
am i the only one that uses beginners? I cant hit the pros to save my life...
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nunzio0108
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Post by nunzio0108 on Sept 29, 2018 18:21:03 GMT -5
I have been playing the Golf Club since it came out on the consoles. I am having trouble with pro clubs thus I am using beginner clubs. The problem with that is when you play TGC Tours the majority of courses used are not beginner club friendly and I am talking about CC-am tournaments. So the answer to that is if you are using beginner clubs you shouldn't be playing this game that's what I read in all the forums both here and on HB Studios forums. Well some of us just aren't good enough to use better clubs so we are frowned upon by the players who think like that. We are forgotten people in this game as we don't compete at a high level with the Master Club users. I know my abilities in this game and still enjoy playing it, I go to the driving range and practice quite a bit. My problem is tempo. I also think controllers play a big part in that. I had a stock Xbox one controller which I used with player clubs and it started to hit quite straight all of a sudden, I was called out on it. So because my controller after lots of use did that I had to go get a new Xbox One controller and now I am using Beginner Clubs. Maybe someday I can move up to Pro Clubs. I just wish that TGC 2019 and TGC Tours would show a little love to us with Beginner Clubs and everyone on the forums.
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Oct 2, 2018 13:51:27 GMT -5
Don't let using beginner clubs put you off TGC Tours, you might not be up at the top of the leaderboard but as long as you're enjoying it that's the main thing. There can be a bit of snobbery about players not using master clubs, I'm one that plays tour clubs and last season I dropped down to the beginner clubs to steady the ship. You might get used to the tour clubs at some point just keep at it.
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Post by FortyNothing on Oct 2, 2018 21:15:53 GMT -5
I have a similar experience. I switch back and forth between Pro and Beginner clubs. My tempo is almost always perfect, but I have a hard time keeping the line straight sometimes. I do a pretty good job of it most of the time though, but my scores are definitely better with Beginner clubs. I'd like to be better at Pro clubs, but should I even bother if Beginner is doing it for me?
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Post by andy6467 on Oct 3, 2018 14:54:19 GMT -5
I have a similar experience. I switch back and forth between Pro and Beginner clubs. My tempo is almost always perfect, but I have a hard time keeping the line straight sometimes. I do a pretty good job of it most of the time though, but my scores are definitely better with Beginner clubs. I'd like to be better at Pro clubs, but should I even bother if Beginner is doing it for me? that is my question. The distance differential between beginner and pro clubs is enormous but i seem to score ok using beginners so not sure why i need to upgrade? Is the putter the same for the different sets of clubs? I assume that they are different in TGC but in real life, i wouldnt think that there is any difference. |
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Post by lawman1474 on Oct 3, 2018 15:10:10 GMT -5
am i the only one that uses beginners? I cant hit the pros to save my life... I had trouble at first, but watch a few video on you tube about holding the controller and swing tempo helped. |
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Post by FortyNothing on Oct 3, 2018 21:36:04 GMT -5
am i the only one that uses beginners? I cant hit the pros to save my life... After posting how I hit better with Beginner clubs, I've been forcing myself to use Pro clubs and I haven't had that much trouble with them after trying a few things. What I've been doing lately after seeing some tips on here is holding up the controller and looking at the right stick while I make my swing. I'm able to get way straighter by doing that. If you're on PS4, the regular dualshock controller has a seam on the round part under the thumbstick. If you focus on keeping that line straight when you pull back and push forward it helps, surprisingly. As for timing, I watch my player backswing to 100% then I let it sit there for a split second before I push forward again and I get Perfect Perfect about 90% of the time. The main thing is to keep your focus just like real golf. There are a bunch of things you have to concentrate on and if you mess up just one of them, your score is going to show it. So I've made sure to always pay attention to what I'm doing. Sit up in my chair, no more lazy couch laying while playing. I try to take it somewhat seriously. This has helped my game. |
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Post by stokie1947 on Oct 4, 2018 2:08:36 GMT -5
play with whatever clubs you want the main thing just enjoy the TGCT tours no matter what standard you are
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Post by JosiaDB on Oct 4, 2018 7:55:32 GMT -5
I have a similar experience. I switch back and forth between Pro and Beginner clubs. My tempo is almost always perfect, but I have a hard time keeping the line straight sometimes. I do a pretty good job of it most of the time though, but my scores are definitely better with Beginner clubs. I'd like to be better at Pro clubs, but should I even bother if Beginner is doing it for me? that is my question. The distance differential between beginner and pro clubs is enormous but i seem to score ok using beginners so not sure why i need to upgrade? Is the putter the same for the different sets of clubs? I assume that they are different in TGC but in real life, i wouldnt think that there is any difference.
I'd say as long as you are having fun, the only reason to upgrade would be a)if you wanted to eventually play in the higher tier tours, or b) if you just want to be able to say, hey, I'm playing master level. I mean, honestly, if you are playing at a master level, but not having fun, it's not worth it then, because the main thing is if you are enjoying yourself or not.
For me, I switched just because I wanted to be able to say however bad I'm doing, I am doing bad at the highest level. LOL. But I'm enjoying it immensely, so I keep at it. If I were not enjoying it, I'd go back to pro in a heartbeat.
It was tough to get used to, and tempo is really what gets me, most of the time. Two things that helped me a lot, seemingly more than anything.
- I read somewhere to think of it more like a baseball bat swing, instead of a golf club. For me, if I do that, it seems to help. the upswing means something, the downswing speed in relation to that means something, but the thing that I wasn't realizing was that the time of the pause between the two also seems to affect it.
- The other thing that continually helps me is the practice swing, where you can click the joystick and take practice swings on the tee. Driving ranges don't do it for me, because I'm not concerned about where the ball goes, if I can't hit the tempo consistently in the first place. Its aggravating to wait for the ball to land when I just want to see my tempo. So on the first tee, I'll go into practice shot mood, and sit there and swing and see from the meter exactly what I'm doing. I'll sit there for probably 20-40 strokes watching that meter, until I can get even close consistent with my tempo and straightness. But that helps me more than anything. If I feel my tempo getting off, I go into practice swing mood and sit there and do it until I get the feeling back. or at least close to it.
I hope that helps in some way!
oh and for me, I can't tell a difference in the putters.
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Post by andy6467 on Oct 4, 2018 8:22:43 GMT -5
that is my question. The distance differential between beginner and pro clubs is enormous but i seem to score ok using beginners so not sure why i need to upgrade? Is the putter the same for the different sets of clubs? I assume that they are different in TGC but in real life, i wouldnt think that there is any difference. I'd say as long as you are having fun, the only reason to upgrade would be a)if you wanted to eventually play in the higher tier tours, or b) if you just want to be able to say, hey, I'm playing master level. I mean, honestly, if you are playing at a master level, but not having fun, it's not worth it then, because the main thing is if you are enjoying yourself or not. For me, I switched just because I wanted to be able to say however bad I'm doing, I am doing bad at the highest level. LOL. But I'm enjoying it immensely, so I keep at it. If I were not enjoying it, I'd go back to pro in a heartbeat. It was tough to get used to, and tempo is really what gets me, most of the time. Two things that helped me a lot, seemingly more than anything. - I read somewhere to think of it more like a baseball bat swing, instead of a golf club. For me, if I do that, it seems to help. the upswing means something, the downswing speed in relation to that means something, but the thing that I wasn't realizing was that the time of the pause between the two also seems to affect it. - The other thing that continually helps me is the practice swing, where you can click the joystick and take practice swings on the tee. Driving ranges don't do it for me, because I'm not concerned about where the ball goes, if I can't hit the tempo consistently in the first place. Its aggravating to wait for the ball to land when I just want to see my tempo. So on the first tee, I'll go into practice shot mood, and sit there and swing and see from the meter exactly what I'm doing. I'll sit there for probably 20-40 strokes watching that meter, until I can get even close consistent with my tempo and straightness. But that helps me more than anything. If I feel my tempo getting off, I go into practice swing mood and sit there and do it until I get the feeling back. or at least close to it.
I hope that helps in some way! oh and for me, I can't tell a difference in the putters.
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Post by andy6467 on Oct 4, 2018 8:29:16 GMT -5
I'd say as long as you are having fun, the only reason to upgrade would be a)if you wanted to eventually play in the higher tier tours, or b) if you just want to be able to say, hey, I'm playing master level. I mean, honestly, if you are playing at a master level, but not having fun, it's not worth it then, because the main thing is if you are enjoying yourself or not. For me, I switched just because I wanted to be able to say however bad I'm doing, I am doing bad at the highest level. LOL. But I'm enjoying it immensely, so I keep at it. If I were not enjoying it, I'd go back to pro in a heartbeat. It was tough to get used to, and tempo is really what gets me, most of the time. Two things that helped me a lot, seemingly more than anything. - I read somewhere to think of it more like a baseball bat swing, instead of a golf club. For me, if I do that, it seems to help. the upswing means something, the downswing speed in relation to that means something, but the thing that I wasn't realizing was that the time of the pause between the two also seems to affect it. - The other thing that continually helps me is the practice swing, where you can click the joystick and take practice swings on the tee. Driving ranges don't do it for me, because I'm not concerned about where the ball goes, if I can't hit the tempo consistently in the first place. Its aggravating to wait for the ball to land when I just want to see my tempo. So on the first tee, I'll go into practice shot mood, and sit there and swing and see from the meter exactly what I'm doing. I'll sit there for probably 20-40 strokes watching that meter, until I can get even close consistent with my tempo and straightness. But that helps me more than anything. If I feel my tempo getting off, I go into practice swing mood and sit there and do it until I get the feeling back. or at least close to it.
I hope that helps in some way! oh and for me, I can't tell a difference in the putters.
Thanks....I guess the only reason i want to play the pro or master clubs is just in case i do advance to those tours that will not allow beginners. I feel like i would have to learn the game all over again at that point if i need to upgrade. It's an unlikely scenario though since i dont play the game more than 4 or 5 rounds per week. |
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Post by grantcrichter on Oct 19, 2018 13:01:21 GMT -5
i started on pro and get some wonky outcomes because i cant keep my swing line in the blue box, and have rare tempo issues
played a few rounds with ladies clubs and i have beaten my pro club score every time. no swing lines outside the giant box, no tempo issues
probably will play half of q school with pro clubs, half with ladies clubs and see what happens
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Post by andybarrell on Oct 22, 2018 7:42:51 GMT -5
After a few practice rounds on different courses
+30 and worse with Master...total waste of time
+15 and worse with Pro...better but still not enjoyable
-5 to -10 with Beginner....scoring is hands down better and the game is more enjoyable
was never good enough to compete when on World Tour, and would never be good enough to make the Pro tours using master clubs, so if i was to play on tour i would use beginners and enjoy life on the CC Tours and ignore the Pro Tours completely.
Remember its not real money..its a game and to me a game would need to be enjoyed to be played more than once
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Post by Robbo on Oct 22, 2018 11:07:08 GMT -5
I agree regarding clubs and enjoyment.
I'll finish Q-school with Pro clubs and then use Beginner clubs to enjoy the game in CC-G or CC-Z, where I'll no doubt be placed and stay for the foreseeable future.
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Post by andy6467 on Oct 23, 2018 11:23:55 GMT -5
I agree regarding clubs and enjoyment. I'll finish Q-school with Pro clubs and then use Beginner clubs to enjoy the game in CC-G or CC-Z, where I'll no doubt be placed and stay for the foreseeable future. i am doing the same. forcing myself through Q school using the master clubs and will then probably switch back to the beginners. Currently struggling to break 90 at st. bedes using the masters. lol |
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