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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 7:47:18 GMT -5
You might look at above and say, what's the big deal? Well those shots alone are a 60 foot dispersion from the right to the left result. Lie, wind and axis hit certainly have an impact on ball flight and final landing spot. This is restricted to initial start line only. The initial start line should be impacted by lie, axis hit and maybe to a real small degree wind. "it's not what's happening though" With all that said, as I said in the support and bug forums, as long as it's happening to everyone, as bright has also said, great, I have moved on as my latest testing found it does happen across platforms and devices. I'm good with that. I'd be super duper if I could see a few screenshots of the effect happening to anyone else, but in the absence of such, I will assume it does. I mean really, without this effect, I would be dead eye dick, and no-one wants that.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 8:06:23 GMT -5
5k computer? Not easy to build one of those what are your specs? This game was intended to be played with a controller. The mouse swing is a poor representation of one... the only good mouse swing was Pga Championship Golf  Case: Corsair 780T CPU: Intel i7-4790K MB: Asus z97 Maximus Formula VII RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133MHz 4x4 GB w/custom red light bar GPU: MSI Gaming GTX 980 PSU: Corsair AX860i CPU Block: Swifttech H220X w/custom RoG Plate SSD 1 OS: Samsung XP941 256GB SSD 2 App: 2 x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (running in Raid 0) HDD 1: WD Velociraptor 600GB (used for local file transfers) HDD 2: WD Black 4TB LEDs: IceModz Case LED kit Cabling: Red/Black cables from ModDIY I've got an Asus RoG Swift monitor I play on and have modded things like the backplate of the GPU and the plate of the CPU to have the RoG logo on it. If you paid 5k for that you got hosed especially since won the overpriced MB in a contest The mouse swing in TGC pales in comparison to the controller method... it just does. I've been mousing since +freelook... the mouse is dead as an input device for golf games. |
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 10:06:08 GMT -5
The way I can see it with other ghosts is the string method I put up earlier. Even on ghost balls you can see if there is a left to right wind and they make a straight shot off the tee, there would be times you see the ball move left of the string then move to the right as the wind takes hold. Or you can see it jump unnaturally to the right.
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Post by crow357 on Jan 30, 2015 10:30:23 GMT -5
I could've swore I was at tgctours not HB. Maybe you should PM Lorin on their site. I'm pretty sure you won't get this fixed here, but I might be wrong /shrug
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Post by mcbogga on Jan 30, 2015 10:32:58 GMT -5
Wish hb would add more variation. That being said, dpi settings on computers is a discussion waiting to happen...
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 10:53:43 GMT -5
Wish hb would add more variation. That being said, dpi settings on computers is a discussion waiting to happen... Yeah I'm sure it is, but it would be impossible to regulate. Every mouse is different. Some have DPIs you can set, some are static. Turns out cheaper mice generally have a lower DPI setting. I checked the one my wife got with her laptop 5 years ago and it is a laser mouse at 600 DPI which would work very well with TGC. Then comes the question of do you question those who buy a controller, are they getting an unfair advantage? Do you make everyone buy a controller? How do you regulate that? It took me a good week to find a setting I was comfortable with and even now, my long putts over 40 feet suffer and I often come up woefully short, but it is a trade off since I'm probably 90%+ of straight shots. I actually found out about the DPI by following the HB forums. When I first started playing TGC I would shank 3/4 of my shots badly and almost gave up the game until I found out that it was because I was playing the game with a 3k DPI setting. Between that and the fact I have a 60 dollar mouse mat that can count all 3k of those DPI pixels within that square inch, it was no wonder. At 800 DPI I have 28.3 pixels in that one inch. Giving for some variance in the game I would estimate i have to hit 90% of those to register a straight shot or about 25-26. At 3k DPI I have to hit 2 and a half times that number which obviously is more difficult and because (at least with my mouse/mat) it is so exact that means my swing can't deviate more than 1/64 to 1/128 of an inch ever at that range. It also means where I take 1 inch to do a full power swing with 800 DPI, I would only need to do 1/3 of that (roughly) at 3k to get the same result. I know it is a lot to take in but I'm explaining it as best as I can to show that this tour couldn't truly regulate/enforce any rules on DPI settings. It would be too difficult and you would be penalizing people with more expensive/adjustable mice and rewarding those with 5 year old or 10 buck mice. It would be silly. (**NOTE** my math is not exact here, I didn't feel like getting out the calculator and get exact numbers, but I'm hoping you all get the general drift). As Taste said, I believe the game was originally intended for xbox type consoles and not PC. PCs have far more delicate settings that makes it more difficult to write comparable code. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 11:08:46 GMT -5
I could've swore I was at tgctours not HB. Maybe you should PM Lorin on their site. I'm pretty sure you won't get this fixed here, but I might be wrong /shrug I love the complainers complaining about complaints. However it's just an open discussion, let it be, if it does not interest you move on. Some people find this interesting, some don't, so what. Same can be said for each and every discussion everywhere on the planet on and in every forum, platform and device. Lets not forget opinions, everyone has them, it's how some react to opinions that they do not agree with that determines the character of the person. Some people listen with an open mind, some listen with a closed mind, some don't listen at all, and some look to shut them down all together. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure it won't get fixed here, so thx for the tip, tips. |
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Post by crow357 on Jan 30, 2015 11:24:39 GMT -5
Ah, my mistake. Thought he was looking for a solution, sorry.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 11:25:04 GMT -5
I could've swore I was at tgctours not HB. Maybe you should PM Lorin on their site. I'm pretty sure you won't get this fixed here, but I might be wrong /shrug The original point of this thread was to find out within our little community, who else has been experiencing this issue. I know Steve and I have been doing extensive testing with this to try and find out if it was single platform or if it was with just with one type of controller over the other. The only way was can investigate this properly is with the feedback of other golfers since neither of us can play on all the platforms to test it ourselves. With all this information we have started a thread on the HB forums and have been relaying the information we have collected from our own testing and the information provided here by the helpful golfers. |
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Post by williamhotel on Jan 30, 2015 11:35:11 GMT -5
Looking at the title I thought this thread had something to do with porn. ...me too.  |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jan 30, 2015 13:30:33 GMT -5
Wish hb would add more variation. That being said, dpi settings on computers is a discussion waiting to happen... Yeah I'm sure it is, but it would be impossible to regulate. Every mouse is different. Some have DPIs you can set, some are static. Turns out cheaper mice generally have a lower DPI setting. I checked the one my wife got with her laptop 5 years ago and it is a laser mouse at 600 DPI which would work very well with TGC. Then comes the question of do you question those who buy a controller, are they getting an unfair advantage? Do you make everyone buy a controller? How do you regulate that? It took me a good week to find a setting I was comfortable with and even now, my long putts over 40 feet suffer and I often come up woefully short, but it is a trade off since I'm probably 90%+ of straight shots. I actually found out about the DPI by following the HB forums. When I first started playing TGC I would shank 3/4 of my shots badly and almost gave up the game until I found out that it was because I was playing the game with a 3k DPI setting. Between that and the fact I have a 60 dollar mouse mat that can count all 3k of those DPI pixels within that square inch, it was no wonder. At 800 DPI I have 28.3 pixels in that one inch. Giving for some variance in the game I would estimate i have to hit 90% of those to register a straight shot or about 25-26. At 3k DPI I have to hit 2 and a half times that number which obviously is more difficult and because (at least with my mouse/mat) it is so exact that means my swing can't deviate more than 1/64 to 1/128 of an inch ever at that range. It also means where I take 1 inch to do a full power swing with 800 DPI, I would only need to do 1/3 of that (roughly) at 3k to get the same result. I know it is a lot to take in but I'm explaining it as best as I can to show that this tour couldn't truly regulate/enforce any rules on DPI settings. It would be too difficult and you would be penalizing people with more expensive/adjustable mice and rewarding those with 5 year old or 10 buck mice. It would be silly. (**NOTE** my math is not exact here, I didn't feel like getting out the calculator and get exact numbers, but I'm hoping you all get the general drift). As Taste said, I believe the game was originally intended for xbox type consoles and not PC. PCs have far more delicate settings that makes it more difficult to write comparable code. I think if it ever became an issue to the point where masses were leaving over it, then tgctours would have to exclude PC players! But I'm sure it will never come to that! |
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 13:42:00 GMT -5
Well I just got a reply from HB on this issue from Lorin. "The game was designed to be played with a mouse at 800 DPI. So having it at 800 DPI is certainly not cheating. If you turned it below that I would think you would have to move the mouse like 8 inches to even get a swing. Is anyone playing below 800? " www.hb-studios.com/forum/index.php?topic=9051.0;topicseenSo I'm hoping this closes the discussion as without knowing it, I nailed the DPI setting that was intended by HB |
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2015 14:26:07 GMT -5
lol Thank god that's over with.
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Post by schatuk on Jan 30, 2015 14:28:59 GMT -5
That suggests to me that the lie adjustment isn't a hard number, but a range of alteration of direction, much like lie percentages offer a range of distance alterations. Probably a bigger range of possible outcomes for bigger sloping lies.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 16:22:24 GMT -5
That suggests to me that the lie adjustment isn't a hard number, but a range of alteration of direction, much like lie percentages offer a range of distance alterations. Probably a bigger range of possible outcomes for bigger sloping lies. Well it is obvious that the more slope the more the ball is going to move right or left. What we were talking about was from the tee or level lie. |
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