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Post by Brighttail on Jan 29, 2015 21:38:39 GMT -5
This is honestly ridiculous at this point. I played 3 rounds today. Here are my findings.
How i measured this was placing two pieces of tape on my monitor. One on the ball and one about 1/2 way up with a piece of string between the two. I used a ruler to validate they were the exact same distance from the edge of my monitor.
30-35% of my tee shots exhibited some sort of ball squirt, where the ball would start either right or left of the string anywhere from 1-4 degrees. This is on a tee shot where it is absolutely a 100% level lie.
Throughout my game, I played on one of the easiest and most level courses out there, again 30-35% of my approach shots also exhibited the same behaviour.
When it came to putting and chipping I did not observe this ball squirt.
What does this mean? It means when playing under low wind situations, a 3-4 degree ball squirt that goes in the same direction of the wind blowing, you might end up 8-12 feet away from the pin on either side. If the wind is 8-14mph, this distance rises to 20-30 feet! The higher the wind the worse that little squirt is emphasized.
Simply put in a game that penalizes you for a swing that isn't straight, it shouldn't penalize when you hit a straight shot, even if it is random. When trying to cut the corner or fly over a bunker on a tee shot, this issue can mean the difference of a second shot in the fair way or in the heavy rough/bunker.
I have been waiting and waiting for some comment from HB on this to let us know if this is a "bug" or an intentional aspect of the game. This makes a difference to me, because do I start experimenting with ways using draw/fade or adjusting my aim to take into consideration of a possible ball squirt or do I wait for the fix. The only thing they have verified is that this apparently happens across all platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:52:40 GMT -5
use a controller to rid yourself of the leadbelly effect.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 29, 2015 22:06:22 GMT -5
use a controller to rid yourself of the leadbelly effect. Why should I have to do this? HB said it is cross platform so controllers should do the same and some have reported it as being so? Also why should I spend more money, use a controller i'm not familiar with to 'fix' something that shouldn't need to be fixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 22:21:06 GMT -5
just deal with the leadbelly effect then...your choice.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 29, 2015 22:42:45 GMT -5
just deal with the leadbelly effect then...your choice. When you have a 5k computer, one shouldn't have to buy a 'controller' to get a game to work properly. If what you are saying then is using a controller you don't have this issue, which is an unfair advantage anyone that has one. Maybe we should ban controllers and make everyone buy a ps2 to USB or other adapter so mice have to be used. Either way thanks for the info, HB needs to know about this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 23:55:11 GMT -5
5k computer? Not easy to build one of those what are your specs? This game was intended to be played with a controller. The mouse swing is a poor representation of one... the only good mouse swing was Pga Championship Golf  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 0:06:54 GMT -5
just deal with the leadbelly effect then...your choice. When you have a 5k computer, one shouldn't have to buy a 'controller' to get a game to work properly. If what you are saying then is using a controller you don't have this issue, which is an unfair advantage anyone that has one. Maybe we should ban controllers and make everyone buy a ps2 to USB or other adapter so mice have to be used. Either way thanks for the info, HB needs to know about this. you can thank leadbelly and all the other mice users who set their mice up to hit perfectly strait nearly all the time without being scared of missing the white line at all. as i watch your ghost balls, you are not far from that, but you still miss from time to time, so ya, thank those guys. Steve2golf said he looked into the coding, and found that HB put in that variance for mouse users alone, (if im wrong, please correct me steve) btw, if you got a 5k computer, buying a 30 dollar controller shouldnt be an issue, but trust me when i say it, you would have more fun using the controller, but im guessing your defense is the same as noel1969's. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Jan 30, 2015 0:25:33 GMT -5
30-35% of my tee shots exhibited some sort of ball squirt, where the ball would start either right or left of the string anywhere from 1-4 degrees. This is on a tee shot where it is absolutely a 100% level lie. Absolutely sure? I find my ball flying left or right from time to time on tee shots as well without any understandable reason, and I doubt that all tee boxes are absolutely leveled on some of the user designed courses! |
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Post by anquila1978 on Jan 30, 2015 2:36:35 GMT -5
use a controller to rid yourself of the leadbelly effect. Why should I have to do this? HB said it is cross platform so controllers should do the same and some have reported it as being so? Also why should I spend more money, use a controller i'm not familiar with to 'fix' something that shouldn't need to be fixed. It is across platforms, which is in the thread on HB. Must be that using a controller reduces the effect on pc. |
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Post by roddymacd on Jan 30, 2015 3:26:15 GMT -5
It happens on xb1 as well I've seen it with low winds you think you've hit it straight you end up 10/30ft left or right makes no sense.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 6:24:13 GMT -5
5k computer? Not easy to build one of those what are your specs? This game was intended to be played with a controller. The mouse swing is a poor representation of one... the only good mouse swing was Pga Championship Golf Case: Corsair 780T CPU: Intel i7-4790K MB: Asus z97 Maximus Formula VII RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133MHz 4x4 GB w/custom red light bar GPU: MSI Gaming GTX 980 PSU: Corsair AX860i CPU Block: Swifttech H220X w/custom RoG Plate SSD 1 OS: Samsung XP941 256GB SSD 2 App: 2 x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (running in Raid 0) HDD 1: WD Velociraptor 600GB (used for local file transfers) HDD 2: WD Black 4TB LEDs: IceModz Case LED kit Cabling: Red/Black cables from ModDIY I've got an Asus RoG Swift monitor I play on and have modded things like the backplate of the GPU and the plate of the CPU to have the RoG logo on it. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2015 6:35:30 GMT -5
5k computer? Not easy to build one of those what are your specs? This game was intended to be played with a controller. The mouse swing is a poor representation of one... the only good mouse swing was Pga Championship Golf Case: Corsair 780T CPU: Intel i7-4790K MB: Asus z97 Maximus Formula VII RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133MHz 4x4 GB w/custom red light bar GPU: MSI Gaming GTX 980 PSU: Corsair AX860i CPU Block: Swifttech H220X w/custom RoG Plate SSD 1 OS: Samsung XP941 256GB SSD 2 App: 2 x Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (running in Raid 0) HDD 1: WD Velociraptor 600GB (used for local file transfers) HDD 2: WD Black 4TB LEDs: IceModz Case LED kit Cabling: Red/Black cables from ModDIY I've got an Asus RoG Swift monitor I play on and have modded things like the backplate of the GPU and the plate of the CPU to have the RoG logo on it. Sounds average..................... |
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 30, 2015 6:37:58 GMT -5
When you have a 5k computer, one shouldn't have to buy a 'controller' to get a game to work properly. If what you are saying then is using a controller you don't have this issue, which is an unfair advantage anyone that has one. Maybe we should ban controllers and make everyone buy a ps2 to USB or other adapter so mice have to be used. Either way thanks for the info, HB needs to know about this. you can thank leadbelly and all the other mice users who set their mice up to hit perfectly strait nearly all the time without being scared of missing the white line at all. as i watch your ghost balls, you are not far from that, but you still miss from time to time, so ya, thank those guys. Steve2golf said he looked into the coding, and found that HB put in that variance for mouse users alone, (if im wrong, please correct me steve) btw, if you got a 5k computer, buying a 30 dollar controller shouldnt be an issue, but trust me when i say it, you would have more fun using the controller, but im guessing your defense is the same as noel1969's. Well I believe you are wrong about variance for mouse users as there are others who have stated on this board and on HB's board that with controllers they have simlilar issues. The Admin over on HB have stated there that all platforms are equal, supposedly, but I've asked a few more specific questions we'll see. As for not every tee box is perfectly level, then it would say every shot on that tee would act the same way but it doesn't from round to round. Concerning my ghost balls, as I have stated in another post while there are items like axis control and angle swapping, I keep those off at all times really cause they are a pain and it would be unfair. What IS fair is that I turn down the DPI of my mouse down from 2k to about 800. The reason is that I find I can make a nice, smooth one inchish swing that feels more natural. Like most things it is simple math, mice can go from low DPI all the way up to 9000 DPI. If in one inch at lets say at 650 DPI, your mouse only has to go straight over 25 points to be straight. At 6500, it has to cover 250 points in that same inch to remain straight. I am proud that most of my swings are straight or just barely off cause I practice that aspect consistently to have muscle memory as you would in real golf. Before people go all apeshit and say "that isn't fair", simple 12 bux mice are about 800-1000 DPI standard and cannot be changed while the more expensive ones as I said are scalable. I would say that me buying a controller would be more inappropriate as I'm circumventing the fact I'm a PC owner. That being said, my point as to why should I buy a controller isnt about price, it is about comfort of use. I like and am used to the mouse swing. It is unfortunate that your first response is to "get a controller" which is the same as "you should play it like 'I' play" or don't complain. That is a silly argument. The point is one platform should NOT be different than others. The game already is challenging enough without introducing random ball paths for no reason. |
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2015 6:43:59 GMT -5
Looking at the title I thought this thread had something to do with porn.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 7:27:22 GMT -5
When you have a 5k computer, one shouldn't have to buy a 'controller' to get a game to work properly. If what you are saying then is using a controller you don't have this issue, which is an unfair advantage anyone that has one. Maybe we should ban controllers and make everyone buy a ps2 to USB or other adapter so mice have to be used. Either way thanks for the info, HB needs to know about this. you can thank leadbelly and all the other mice users who set their mice up to hit perfectly strait nearly all the time without being scared of missing the white line at all. as i watch your ghost balls, you are not far from that, but you still miss from time to time, so ya, thank those guys. Steve2golf said he looked into the coding, and found that HB put in that variance for mouse users alone, (if im wrong, please correct me steve) btw, if you got a 5k computer, buying a 30 dollar controller shouldnt be an issue, but trust me when i say it, you would have more fun using the controller, but im guessing your defense is the same as noel1969's. You are quite right I did that, I seen that as well, however exactly 1 day after I said that, I retested and found the squirt in the controller as well. So yes, I did find it initially for mouse users only, then a short time later found it across all devices on 2 platforms. I cannot say my latest testing found any advantage for PC or x-box no matter the device, they all squirt now for me. For me anyway the next step was to find if it was an effect for everyone, so I followed a few ghosts to see if there was a way to determine if they were squirting or not. There is no possible way for me to determine one way or the other if the effect is across all users. The camera moves to follow cam to quick no matter the setting and the initial viewing line is determined by the designer placement of the octagon making the direction look like a jump. If anyone wishes to see the effect for themselves, I published a "164 yard uneven hole". Just type 164 in search box. You can then use the wind gauge to determine your initial starting line. Use restart, because it is just meant to test start line, not air or finish line. If you find your starting line is exactly determined by lie, wind and axis hit, ie, starts right or left or center of the wind gauge depending on the shot you just made, your result is "not" indicative of the result I'm seeing. See below for i.e    So as you can see from above the start line is right left or center, completely random. Result is duplicated with dead straight controller, dead straight mouse, PC, Xbox no matter. Test for yourself, I would certainly be interested to see your screenshots like above. |
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