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Post by mattf27 on Aug 9, 2018 22:44:49 GMT -5
I'm exhausted and just getting home, so I don't have anything more elequent to say right now other than I can't believe I actually won! There were so many great courses in this thing, I figured it had to go to one of them.
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Post by warhawk137 on Aug 9, 2018 22:47:34 GMT -5
There were so many great courses in this thing, I figured it had to go to one of them. It did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 22:48:34 GMT -5
ANNOUNCEMENT: Final ResultsThese are the rankings of the final 6 courses remaining in the competition, with payouts going to the top three finalists. Congratulations guys! 1. Hickory Creek by mattf27 - wins a gold TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5, a trophy card for his forum signature, and a real trophy to be sent to his house! 2. Monterey Bay by mayday_golf83 - wins a silver TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 3. The Kraken by Terry Grayson - wins a bronze TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 4. Razorback Ridge by sharky215. Riverbend Golf Club by lajvol206. Lion's Gate Resort by PithyDoctorGFor those interested in seeing the scores for the contest, broken out by the scores from lowest to highest received for each course, and the final average, please click this link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kutBqvEqyCw9SdMYeYpH4sqWehWyj1TcX61aJXXCkbE/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Aug 9, 2018 22:58:21 GMT -5
Thanks to all the designers for their hard work and excellent courses. Congrats to the top 6 tagged above, but there were no losers here -- you should all be proud of what you put out there for the community to play and enjoy.
I have no written feedback, but anyone who'd like me to stream a round on their course should PM me so we can work out a time convenient for both of us.
Thanks to Eric for running this contest and to my fellow judges for some enjoyable discussion and debates about these courses.
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Post by culallen on Aug 9, 2018 23:15:57 GMT -5
ANNOUNCEMENT: Final ResultsThese are the rankings of the final 6 courses remaining in the competition, with payouts going to the top three finalists. Congratulations guys! 1. Hickory Creek by mattf27 - wins a gold TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5, a trophy card for his forum signature, and a real trophy to be sent to his house! 2. Monterey Bay by mayday_golf83 - wins a silver TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 3. The Kraken by Terry Grayson - wins a bronze TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 4. Razorback Ridge by sharky215. Riverbend Golf Club by lajvol206. Lion's Gate Resort by PithyDoctorGFor those interested in seeing the scores for the contest, broken out by the scores from lowest to highest received for each course, and the final average, please click this link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kutBqvEqyCw9SdMYeYpH4sqWehWyj1TcX61aJXXCkbE/edit?usp=sharing Wow...the judges really did not like my course! Lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 23:27:14 GMT -5
The greatest danger of the contestants asking for their scores... ...is the contestants seeing their scores.
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Post by joegolferg on Aug 10, 2018 1:59:02 GMT -5
Great competition, great courses and good banter. Well played Mayday knocking me out, but I was quite surprised to see you get beat in the end. I honestly thought Monterey was the winner. Congrats to you, Matt. Top course, mate.
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Aug 10, 2018 2:38:13 GMT -5
ANNOUNCEMENT: Final ResultsThese are the rankings of the final 6 courses remaining in the competition, with payouts going to the top three finalists. Congratulations guys! 1. Hickory Creek by mattf27 - wins a gold TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5, a trophy card for his forum signature, and a real trophy to be sent to his house! 2. Monterey Bay by mayday_golf83 - wins a silver TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 3. The Kraken by Terry Grayson - wins a bronze TGCT sponsorship donation for season 5 4. Razorback Ridge by sharky215. Riverbend Golf Club by lajvol206. Lion's Gate Resort by PithyDoctorGFor those interested in seeing the scores for the contest, broken out by the scores from lowest to highest received for each course, and the final average, please click this link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kutBqvEqyCw9SdMYeYpH4sqWehWyj1TcX61aJXXCkbE/edit?usp=sharing Wow...the judges really did not like my course! Lol For what it's worth I thought it was a great course, loved the idea of being able to plot your own route to holes. It makes it easier if your swing is of or the winds are blowing, but the bunkers placed along the plot doesn't give you an easy route. Congratulations Matt on the win and well done to the other finalists. Actually well done to all of us for putting our courses out there into a contest that about tactics and twists. Hopefully we've all took something away from the contest whether it be a boost or some feedback to improve our designing. I know it's given me a new perspective and approach to designing. Thanks to Eric and the judges as well for putting a lot of time and effort into it. You've all got free plays on the 23rd best course in the contest lol.
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Post by SAM on Aug 10, 2018 3:45:45 GMT -5
Many congratulations to all the podium placed winners especially Matt & his Hickory Creek for taking gold. I really enjoyed the format of the Survivor contest & how it differed from all before it. Big, big thanks to VctryLnSprts (Eric) & all the judges for their hard work from concept to completion. I think I know where I'm going wrong....... (when it comes to competitions that is). Superior sight lines, vistas, bling & polish aren't enough when up against superior layout, routing & strategical aspects (the actual golfing side of things). I'm almost there & annoyingly have been, not long ago with The Club At Montecito but I'm struggling to repeat that success. Looking forward to keeping tabs on ErixonStone (Patrick Lawless)'s "Rookie Design Battle" contest which should tide us over until the first TGC2019 soiree
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Aug 10, 2018 6:03:03 GMT -5
Great competition, great courses and good banter. Well played Mayday knocking me out, but I was quite surprised to see you get beat in the end. I honestly thought Monterey was the winner. Congrats to you, Matt. Top course, mate. Thanks Joe! I, for one, am not surprised that Hickory Creek one. After my win vs. the Kraken and Sonoma Sands' early exit, Matt's course was the one course I was worried about. I felt Monterey was it's equal, but knew it would be a coin flip if left for the judges to decide. That certainly played into my strategy throughout the contest. Props to you on a course that felt like Raynor had been reincarnated and given a copy of TGC2. That style of course may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I've enjoyed that style ever since playing Chicago Golf Club in the original TGC, along with a lot of pitt1976's works. Can't wait to see how Briarcliff turns out.
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Aug 10, 2018 6:14:53 GMT -5
I think I know where I'm going wrong....... (when it comes to competitions that is). Superior sight lines, vistas, bling & polish aren't enough when up against superior layout, routing & strategical aspects (the actual golfing side of things). I'm almost there & annoyingly have been, not long ago with The Club At Montecito but I'm struggling to repeat that success. ^^ Exactly this Simon. You are definitely one of the best planters in the game, however my round at Lockwood felt like it could have been on any number of your previous courses. Improving the golf will absolutely take you to the next level. I would consider taking a page from joegolferg 's playbook and studying the template holes. Not saying everything has to be geometric like a Raynor design. But the classic template holes are classics for a reason -- they provide the golfer plenty of options and, often, the one that yield the best chance at birdie often brings the most peril into play as well. Providing a golfer with something to think about, something to overcome on every shot definitely enhances the playing experience. I for one, have been on a template kick of late for that reason -- trying to understand how angles, camber, fairway/hazard placement and contouring enhance the strategic interest of a golf hole. I definitely think that has helped me in my last two courses.
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Aug 10, 2018 7:06:28 GMT -5
OK, so here's that long post I promised to write as I'm up WAY earlier than I wanted to be this morning. First off, let me start by saying I'm absolutely thrilled with finishing second. Yes, I would have loved to have won, but I felt this was a major step forward for me from previous design contests. I've had a habit of losing to the eventual winner in these things. While that continued, I know I left it all on the table this time and was just edged by another designer who did the same. There's no shame in that. Congratulations to mattf27 on a phenomenal course. After playing Hickory Creek in beta, I knew he would provide strong competition and he didn't disappoint. Matt might not have had a showstopper, drop-the-mic hole, but he did exactly what he did with Corozal in the Nat. Treasure contest -- put out 18 beautiful works of art that while, on the surface, seemed pretty straightforward kept you on your toes the whole round. I was enamored with Corozal when I judged it and I was equally enamored by Hickory Creek. His championship is well-deserved. I further offer congratulations to Terry Grayson on his third-place course. I'm as guilty of anyone for under-appreciating the course he put out at the onset, but the Kraken was defintely a course that grew on me as we went along and proved a worthy top-3 finisher. He also made the gutsiest move of the competition, calling his shot in the second round the way he did. The move worked out spectacularly on his behalf. As much as we love to bust Terry's chops about putting out goat ranches this, as some other noted designers have mentioned, was his finest hour in the designer ... so far. Additionally, major credit goes out to our novices, including sharky21 lajvol20 hippystein & ddixjr509 -- all of whom stole the show with incredible designs, especially considering their lack of previous publishes. I knew David was on the right track after judging his Nat. Treasure course, and he followed that up with The Olmsted. Razorback Ridge, Riverbend and Dragon's Pass were phenomenal courses period. What they were able to display in this contest bodes very well for the design community moving forward. While I'm not a huge fan of the "Survivor" TV show, this format proved to be very engaging. The show's slogan of "Outwit, outplay, outlast" definitely applied here. This contest was all about matchups, more specifically, manipulating matchups into your favor. I'll confess now that, very early in the results portion of the competition myself and a few others formed a secret alliance. With a gut feel for the overall rankings, an understanding of the plot twists Eric was providing and a little well-placed influence on our fellow competitors at the right time, we were able to help dictate several of the matchups over the course of rounds 2, 3 & 4. Havre Hills getting a bye in round 2, Lost Oaks falling and Mav losing the captaincy, and how the courses were broken up into teams in round 3 were no accident. They all involved strategy and lobbying. That influence may have even played a role in how the lineup for round of revenge was cast . While I'm not going to disclose who aligned with me, and leave them to divulge that information if they wish, they know who they are and their support and teamwork are what made the strategy plays successful. Now time for the thank yous. The first of which has to go to VctryLnSprts for putting on this contest. It evolved into its own monster and, like any contest, there was perhaps a little too much drama at some points along the way, but this contest managed to engage the design community for the better part of 5 months. It also produced 25 excellent courses for grateful schedulers and players to enjoy. On all fronts, no matter how stressful I know it was on Eric at times, this contest was an unquestioned success. To the judges, who I won't tag for fear of omitting one, thank you again for your time, dedication and deliberation. Having recently sat in the judge's chair, I know full well the hours you put into this and the tough calls that had to be made along the way. I hope you, in turn, have learned a thing or two from the other side of the glass that helps improve your own designs going forward. I know judging the National Treasure contest absolutely helped me with Monterey Bay. I thank @griff for having me on that panel. He took some time with me to break down McNaughton following its first-round exit in last year's Summer Showdown, but it took a bit of a sabbatical from the game, returning with a renewed energy and judging that contest for his words to really sink in for me. That's all I've got for now. Congrats to the winners. Thank you to the organizers/judges and a tip of the cap to all who entered. ~ Jeremy
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Post by joegolferg on Aug 10, 2018 7:31:17 GMT -5
Follow that speech, Matt... 🎤
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Post by Terry Grayson on Aug 10, 2018 8:21:04 GMT -5
This contest was a lot of fun, the twists , turns, survivor motif created a lot of action....
Just wanted to thank Eric and his panel of judges for all the hard work
There were a lot of spectacular courses released and I was honored to be a part of it
Congrats to MattF for the top prize and also Jeremy for his 2nd place... Two great courses .... and to all the designers outstanding work
It was a blast.
Terry
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Post by sharky21 on Aug 10, 2018 9:34:35 GMT -5
To follow what terry said I thought this was a great contest really had a blast watching how everything shaked out with all the twists and turns. So thanks Eric for all the hard work you put in. And to all the judges thanks for all your hard work really appreciate all the time and effort you guys put in to make this contest as fun as it was.
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