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Post by KenTremendous on Sept 20, 2017 13:06:25 GMT -5
Thumb only guy here too.
I place the controller on my lap in front of me and bash...well just rest it, not place.
Nothing more complicated than that.
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Post by lessangster on Sept 20, 2017 13:35:53 GMT -5
Left thumb on left stick for me to I sort of pull back but try and keep the tempo at the top then when I’m hitting it straightest my thumb just seems to slide up the stick on the downswing. Ooo err missus.
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Post by chumley on Sept 21, 2017 6:57:01 GMT -5
Until I read some of this thread I was having an awful time controlling my Wood and Irons (3-9) but wedges and putting, apart from all too often green misreads, was pretty much OK.
I abandoned the thumb method and used the forefinger/thumb method it its place. A Eureka moment. Improved on a course I played earlier today from +18 to +5. Hit 80% of the fairways missing only when the ball rolled off into light rough. The drive lengths improved by 15 or more yards. In the earlier game I only hit 35% of the fairways.
I've completed 3 miserable rounds of Q School and whilst one reasonable round won't make any difference to where I end up I have some hope that I am on the right track to at least feeling competitive.
I'm so glad I read this thread and felt I had to come back and make a comment.
Now, back to the practice range to work on my putting.
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Post by frank70 on Sept 21, 2017 7:17:25 GMT -5
Forefinger/thumb technique should be considered anchoring .....  Seriously: It's way easier to stabilize the stick using two fingers. I tried it a little bit on the range and was surprised how good and repeatable it was on the first try. I could easily see me playing more consistent with that technique. But in a way it felt mechanical to me. I haven't "felt" my swing as i do playing with the thumb only. Of course it's a legal way to play (nobody could survey it anyway). But i have played with the "thumb only"-method since the TW days. I like the challenge and won't change my technique. |
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Post by mrohde4 on Sept 21, 2017 11:36:30 GMT -5
Forefinger/thumb technique should be considered anchoring ..... Seriously: It's way easier to stabilize the stick using two fingers. I tried it a little bit on the range and was surprised how good and repeatable it was on the first try. I could easily see me playing more consistent with that technique. But in a way it felt mechanical to me. I haven't "felt" my swing as i do playing with the thumb only. Of course it's a legal way to play (nobody could survey it anyway). But i have played with the "thumb only"-method since the TW days. I like the challenge and won't change my technique. Given that the term "anchoring" in real golf is synonymous with cheating, your post speaks from both sides of the coin. It's one thing if an assistive mechanical device is being used. That's cheating, but this technique involves a human hand operating a video game controller. You want to limit fingers? I don't care if the player uses ten fingers, toes or butt cheeks. It's about moving a joystick half an inch. I used thumb only since recently, but all this means is maybe we've been playing incorrectly all this time. Maybe they should start drug testing, and implementing mandatory video streams, and pace of play penalties too. |
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Post by frank70 on Sept 21, 2017 11:45:56 GMT -5
Forefinger/thumb technique should be considered anchoring ..... Seriously: It's way easier to stabilize the stick using two fingers. I tried it a little bit on the range and was surprised how good and repeatable it was on the first try. I could easily see me playing more consistent with that technique. But in a way it felt mechanical to me. I haven't "felt" my swing as i do playing with the thumb only. Of course it's a legal way to play (nobody could survey it anyway). But i have played with the "thumb only"-method since the TW days. I like the challenge and won't change my technique. Given that the term "anchoring" in real golf is synonymous with cheating, your post speaks from both sides of the coin. It's one thing if an assistive mechanical device is being used. That's cheating, but this technique involves a human hand operating a video game controller. You want to limit fingers? I don't care if the player uses ten fingers, toes or butt cheeks. It's about moving a joystick half an inch. I used thumb only since recently, but all this means is maybe we've been playing incorrectly all this time. Maybe they should start drug testing, and implementing mandatory video streams, and pace of play penalties too. I put a smiley behind “anchoring“ for a reason. Of course it's absolutely okay to play this way. I find it in a way easier to pull of straight shots, but i have no feel playing. Therefore i stay with the thumb. Easy!! |
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Post by mrohde4 on Sept 21, 2017 12:04:06 GMT -5
Forgive me as perhaps that came across a tad sensitive. I would recommend this grip to anyone on the verge of quitting the game completely or who are convinced they cannot use Tour mode. And I'd disagree that there's no feel, drawing and fading on command is arguably possible with this method, but it takes time and many reps. Still no concrete way to avoid fast/slow swings.
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Post by bearfan3417 on Sept 21, 2017 12:42:51 GMT -5
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Post by Royce on Sept 21, 2017 13:27:55 GMT -5
I use my thumb only, never have once contemplated trying a "anchored" thumb+index finger style, feels way to awkward this way hitting a few shots in the designer........but then again I don't have any issues pulling a stick back 1/2" and pushing to the top in a straight motion, never found this difficult in original and not much difference for me in TGC2.
Only time I miss the cone (when sober at least) is on a severe sidehill lie, and I swear the game expects some type of angled path because I'm fairly confident I use the same motion as always but get a massive two way miss, whereas when I miss the cone from just a poor swing I'm ALWAYS right. Not sure I've ever hit a draw on the cone in fact unless it's a severe sidehill lie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 19:04:20 GMT -5
To be clear I am taking the club back with my pointer alone then pushing it down with my thumb alone. So it's a two part swing. I don't hold the stick with both fingers. It might be a little easier to hit it straight then using just a thumb but the timing is harder because you have a slight delay between the finger and thumb . It took me a while to get tgc2 swing down. I had major issues with slicing and then fast swings. I still mess up obviously but I have the feedback off so I don't even know if I am hitting it perfect all the time. I can definitely tell if it's fast ds and usually if it's a slow ds. I also play totally by feel and using two fingers for me feels more like a golf swing. My finger is the takeaway and my thumb is the downswing.
I have played this way since tiger on ps2 . I have no clue if I came up with it or I copied it. I certainly would not say it's cheating. I only play TST anyways and lucky if I get a top 20.
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Post by paulus on Sept 21, 2017 20:04:23 GMT -5
I did give the chess grip a run out - 15 mins of anti-cone. So back to thumb only. Many ways to get it done I guess...
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Post by nantez88 on Sept 22, 2017 7:09:12 GMT -5
Noooooooo not the claw crip 😂
I'm all thumbs I sit in my arm chair and my elbows are by my side, tight to the chair for no movement. I anchor the pad into my lap area and my wrists are also resting on my lap and I use my thumb. Kind of half way down my thumb and my thumb out horizontally.my index fingers in between the back buttons pointing towards each other kind of like a 45° shape, hard to explain. I used to use the tip of my thumb but it was too wild and created snap hooks.
Weird but solid technique and I won't sit anywhere else and play it is my gaming chair 😂 I've found several factors that can cause bad shots just from the positioning of your elbow and wrists it's mental and quite sad but certainly effects the swing in a big way. 😂
I'm a grown man going on about a swing technique for a game here ffs thank God the misses doesn't read this
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Post by frank70 on Sept 22, 2017 7:11:40 GMT -5
Noooooooo not the claw crip 😂 I'm all thumbs I sit in my arm chair and my elbows are by my side, tight to the chair for no movement. I anchor the pad into my lap area and my wrists are also resting on my lap and I use my thumb. Kind of half way down my thumb and my thumb out horizontally.my index fingers in between the back buttons pointing towards each other kind of like a 45° shape, hard to explain. I used to use the tip of my thumb but it was too wild and created snap hooks. Weird but solid technique and I won't sit anywhere else and play it is my gaming chair 😂 I've found several factors that can cause bad shots just from the positioning of your elbow and wrists it's mental and quite sad but certainly effects the swing in a big way. 😂 I'm a grown man going on about a swing technique for a game here ffs thank God the misses doesn't read this Sounds exactly how i grip the controller .... only you are playing way better!! |
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Post by Royce on Sept 22, 2017 9:05:27 GMT -5
To be clear I am taking the club back with my pointer alone then pushing it down with my thumb alone. So it's a two part swing. I don't hold the stick with both fingers. It might be a little easier to hit it straight then using just a thumb but the timing is harder because you have a slight delay between the finger and thumb . It took me a while to get tgc2 swing down. I had major issues with slicing and then fast swings. I still mess up obviously but I have the feedback off so I don't even know if I am hitting it perfect all the time. I can definitely tell if it's fast ds and usually if it's a slow ds. I also play totally by feel and using two fingers for me feels more like a golf swing. My finger is the takeaway and my thumb is the downswing. I have played this way since tiger on ps2 . I have no clue if I came up with it or I copied it. I certainly would not say it's cheating. I only play TST anyways and lucky if I get a top 20. Oh I don't care what you use to swing your little stick, toes, fingers, thumbs or nose whatever works for you mate! Your double finger method sounds interesting & I see how that would feel more like a 2 part swing. I tried it on the range a few times and was brutally awful, terrible tempo and even worse cone path. My biggest swing issue right now is still tempo, I've come to grips with that fact that I will hit a lot of slow/perfect swings and I've just adapted my distances. The only way I can consistently get perfect/perfect is if I listen for the avatar swing "swoosh" & get zoned into a rhythm, but I like to play while watching TV or listening to music so whatever. Concentration is rewarded with this swing mechanic IMO and that's a great thing. I just wish there was an "overswing" component to the tempo, because as it stands right now knowing a hard max distance a ball will travel just makes scoring that much easier....can't believe that HB didn't implement this..... I will say your ball flight when we play live turnbased has some wicked draw action on it, not sure if that's just an artifact of where you aim compared to what I see on my screen or if you use draw either via the loft mechanic or natural stick movement. Let's get a game sometime. |
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Post by frank70 on Sept 22, 2017 9:12:34 GMT -5
To be clear I am taking the club back with my pointer alone then pushing it down with my thumb alone. So it's a two part swing. I don't hold the stick with both fingers. It might be a little easier to hit it straight then using just a thumb but the timing is harder because you have a slight delay between the finger and thumb . It took me a while to get tgc2 swing down. I had major issues with slicing and then fast swings. I still mess up obviously but I have the feedback off so I don't even know if I am hitting it perfect all the time. I can definitely tell if it's fast ds and usually if it's a slow ds. I also play totally by feel and using two fingers for me feels more like a golf swing. My finger is the takeaway and my thumb is the downswing. I have played this way since tiger on ps2 . I have no clue if I came up with it or I copied it. I certainly would not say it's cheating. I only play TST anyways and lucky if I get a top 20. I just wish there was an "overswing" component to the tempo, because as it stands right now knowing a hard max distance a ball will travel just makes scoring that much easier....can't believe that HB didn't implement this..... This!!!!! Game could be so much more immersive and challenging with this rather small gameplay change! |
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