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Post by ErixonStone on Sept 11, 2017 12:44:49 GMT -5
Last week, I played 1 hole and quit. That is given a strike nowadays. Didnt used to be in TGC1. To stop people from continually doing what you did i think I don't care about the strike. I quit after one hole which is the same as missing a cut or finishing last. I just think there's some distinction to be made between DQ (which implies that there was some rule broken) and DNF (no rule was broken, but the player did not complete all rounds). And there's a distinction between DNF and DNP (did not play or quit).
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Post by staypuft39 on Sept 11, 2017 12:53:20 GMT -5
That is given a strike nowadays. Didnt used to be in TGC1. To stop people from continually doing what you did i think I don't care about the strike. I quit after one hole which is the same as missing a cut or finishing last. I just think there's some distinction to be made between DQ (which implies that there was some rule broken) and DNF (no rule was broken, but the player did not complete all rounds). And there's a distinction between DNF and DNP (did not play or quit). Would it not be breaking a rule to walk off the course on hole 1, not submitting a scorecard? Never seen a DNF in golf before, only other sports. Maybe a WD though? In real life, surely anyone not finishing is withdrawing during a round, not just walking off to the pub without telling anyone.
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Post by Doyley on Sept 11, 2017 13:04:36 GMT -5
Definitely need to tweak these but not sure when we'll get to it - hopefully soon!
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Post by ErixonStone on Sept 11, 2017 13:34:09 GMT -5
Would it not be breaking a rule to walk off the course on hole 1, not submitting a scorecard? Never seen a DNF in golf before, only other sports. Maybe a WD though? In real life, surely anyone not finishing is withdrawing during a round, not just walking off to the pub without telling anyone. It's not the same as breaking a rule such as failing to report a penalty stroke, more probably than not causing a ball to move during address, or improperly marking your ball on the green. Playing one hole is akin to tweaking your back or not being able to activate your glutes and then walking off the course to the scorers' tent. It's totally fair to "earn" a strike or double-strike. So, while we're throwing around mildly consequential suggestions, I made this one without much thought.
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 11, 2017 14:16:53 GMT -5
Went down 34 places for a 21st place finish come at me
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Post by tk05 on Sept 11, 2017 17:25:37 GMT -5
a bit lazy of a question but are all the WD's people that played but didn't finish 2 rounds? or do you get count as a WD regardless if you play or not?
i finished my rounds but i think my second round didn't get finished before the cutoff so i'm in the "played but didn't post" category. was a bit confused because the society said the event didn't close for another 2 days but i see we're sticking with the original schedule (i understand why the society said 2 days fwiw). nbd, just checking what constitutes a WD
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Post by ErixonStone on Sept 11, 2017 17:39:26 GMT -5
a bit lazy of a question but are all the WD's people that played but didn't finish 2 rounds? or do you get count as a WD regardless if you play or not? i finished my rounds but i think my second round didn't get finished before the cutoff so i'm in the "played but didn't post" category. was a bit confused because the society said the event didn't close for another 2 days but i see we're sticking with the original schedule (i understand why the society said 2 days fwiw). nbd, just checking what constitutes a WD Playing one shot but not finishing constitutes a withdrawal and earns a strike or a double strike. Not playing at all is as if you never registered and does not cost a strike. I think both of these are represented by "DQ" but have different consequences.
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Post by tk05 on Sept 11, 2017 17:45:09 GMT -5
a bit lazy of a question but are all the WD's people that played but didn't finish 2 rounds? or do you get count as a WD regardless if you play or not? i finished my rounds but i think my second round didn't get finished before the cutoff so i'm in the "played but didn't post" category. was a bit confused because the society said the event didn't close for another 2 days but i see we're sticking with the original schedule (i understand why the society said 2 days fwiw). nbd, just checking what constitutes a WD Playing one shot but not finishing constitutes a withdrawal and earns a strike or a double strike. Not playing at all is as if you never registered and does not cost a strike. I think both of these are represented by "DQ" but have different consequences. i checked, there's DNP and DQ so i guess the difference is clear.
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Post by Doyley on Sept 11, 2017 18:02:46 GMT -5
We still have to look over this again - think it's showing DQ for those that didn't play a shot and that's not our intention. FYI, we don't differentiate from a WD and a DQ - they basically mean the same thing in that a player started the event but didn't finish. I'll look to change it to WD as there really aren't any reasons for a DQ anymore that stay on the leaderboard and everyone here associates DQ'd players with cheaters which isn't the case at TGCT.
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Post by tk05 on Sept 11, 2017 20:10:27 GMT -5
We still have to look over this again - think it's showing DQ for those that didn't play a shot and that's not our intention. FYI, we don't differentiate from a WD and a DQ - they basically mean the same thing in that a player started the event but didn't finish. I'll look to change it to WD as there really aren't any reasons for a DQ anymore that stay on the leaderboard and everyone here associates DQ'd players with cheaters which isn't the case at TGCT. i was just confused because there were 15 WDs from last weeks event which seemed like a lot. if they were people that made a stroke but didn't finish their rounds, than that makes sense. i was thinking it was people who were on the active roster but didn't play at all because 15 seems like a high number. i did just randomly check a few people on this weeks leaderboard and saw that "did not play" is also an option which is what i think it would/should say (obviously) if you don't play. WD definitely sounds a bit more polite over DQ and the tournament recap labels them as withdrawn players anyway. on the season summary for each player it's DQ. really just semantics, i was more curious if you'd get the strike if you didn't take a stroke in that week's tournament
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Post by Doyley on Sept 11, 2017 21:42:32 GMT -5
i was more curious if you'd get the strike if you didn't take a stroke in that week's tournament Not supposed to - if you did just confirm it for me and we'll make sure it's fixed. Mind's a bit mush with all the stuff we've done the past two weeks.
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Post by Friz on Sept 12, 2017 7:13:50 GMT -5
Question on exemptions...if you get an exemption and are automatically entered but unable to play, if you don't take a stroke in your exemption tourney do you roll over to the next week or drop back down?
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Post by Doyley on Sept 12, 2017 10:28:31 GMT -5
Question on exemptions...if you get an exemption and are automatically entered but unable to play, if you don't take a stroke in your exemption tourney do you roll over to the next week or drop back down?Sup Supposed to roll over to the next week until you eventually play. Not sure there's been a case that's tested it yet so if you're the first let us know how it goes!
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Post by waldini1985 on Sept 15, 2017 1:33:57 GMT -5
Finally cracked the top 100, up from 124 to 84, a juicy 40 place jump. Next target, zee top 50. Might take a while... congrats buddy
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