Wind and elevation.

[bubbsboy100.]

Hi all.

New to this game and struggling. I dont want your secret formulas other than does elevation affect yardage, i summise it will, same as wind must.

Ive came from WGT, well im still running a big club in it in truth and its all in 3s with that.

Down 18 take 6 off.........headwind 21 mph add 7 on etc etc......more or less anyway.

Is this the same ?

[mde8965]

On wind, just do not assume all clubs are affected the same. They are not. Some of the folks around here have charted wind for all clubs...and it is a worthwhile exercise. I am in the process. It is very time consuming through.

[bubbsboy100.]

Cheers, yeah i will note whilst playing. In truth i am but sometimes i scratch my head thinking WTF lol

Early days

EDIT Of course it also depends on if ive timed joy stick use....poss why the WTF moments 

[grinder12000]

Elevation is a learning thing. For instance -Last night I had a 220 yard 40 foot DOWN shot - I took at LEAST 1 club off and even lofted the club a little more. After 100 rounds you start to get a small idea. LOL Just play and struggle and it all comes into focus very slowly, it truly does.

I was floundering in TGC1 for 100 rounds and then things started to come into focus around the 130 round area. Now I'm struggling but still learning things like wind and elevation and what works and what does not. You really do learn, you just don't notice it as fast as you want.


The ONLY thing I do automatically is off the tee.  15mph wind left to right is 15 clicks to the left.  But distance and horizontal ball speed means a lot with the wind.  It's very realistic.  

[parnsi]

Aug 7, 2017 8:18:09 GMT -5 grinder12000 said:

Elevation is a learning thing. For instance -Last night I had a 220 yard 40 foot DOWN shot - I took at LEAST 1 club off and even lofted the club a little more. After 100 rounds you start to get a small idea. LOL Just play and struggle and it all comes into focus very slowly, it truly does.

I was floundering in TGC1 for 100 rounds and then things started to come into focus around the 130 round area. Now I'm struggling but still learning things like wind and elevation and what works and what does not. You really do learn, you just don't notice it as fast as you want.


The ONLY thing I do automatically is off the tee.  15mph wind left to right is 15 clicks to the left.  But distance and horizontal ball speed means a lot with the wind.  It's very realistic.  

 I have been finding that off the tee a correct swing is way more important than wind...     you can aim left for a L to R wind but even if you are in the cone but its slightly left the wind wont bring it back..

[grinder12000]

Agree - off the tee wind is basically the same as TGC1 which makes sense. Ball speed is important with wind and off the tee the ball is going very fast.

[Deleted]

Wind off the tee is not impacted as much as shorter irons. The exception being anything under 100 seems to not be impacted at all. I have to stop allowing for it.

Lie angle has a greater impact on accuracy than win under 100 yards

[echomike2]

Wind angle question, If I have a 12mph headwind blowing from 315d to 135d do you play that as 12mph or 6mph? in calculations?

thanks john

[KenTremendous]

Assuming you have a flat lie that wont impact direction etc, play it as around 10 mph, but even that is dependant on which club you are using, as lofted clubs are far more impacted than lower irons/woods/driver etc.

[specialedd73]

Hi i have just came across your Question and i am wondering is it still the case that you have stuck rto your general rule of 3 times tables with wind and elevation I.E. 21mph 7 etc or have you changed since posting question

Cheers

Regards 

Eddie

[fadgewacker]

Elevation works in 3's

Wind, hell, I use "Skeg of Eye"...

[grantcrichter]

right now i am at:

downhill is /4 minus 1 yard
uphill is /3 minus 1 yard

so if the pin is 180 yards, 20 feet downhill, i take off 20/4 = 5 - 1 = 4yards. so that pin plays 176 for me
and if the pin is 180 yards, 21 feet uphill, i add 21/3 = 7 - 1 = 6yards. so that pin plays 186

also its an inexact science and im no world #1, so proceed with caution

[fadgewacker]

Yeah it's not an exact science, which is good, and also the way it is in real life.

I generally divide by 3 and then as I progress down to my lofted irons and wedges, add a yard every 2 clubs or so, just to account for the steeper angle of descent.

Skegging the wind factor into the equation, as well as distance you lose by cutting /drawing the ball against the wind are the other things you need to take into account and once more make this firmly a non mathematical event (should you decide to play that way). Some people like to ride the wind and calc it, I much prefer to fight the wind and control the ball flight.

[Deleted]

I play in metres. If you add the elevation to the distance, or subtract for downhill, it works out pretty spot on. Eg 100m, 5m uphill I’ll play for 105m. 100m 5m downhill I’ll play for 95m. It works out pretty close all the way through the bag with irons. Just remember to allow a little for your lie angle. If you’re hitting from an upslope it will naturally go a little higher and shorter, you’ll get a pull from a ball above your feet, and a push from a ball below your feet. Again, you’ll work out how much to allow over time.

My wind is in Kph. I generally use deloft into a headwind, it’s trial and error to work out how much for each club, and each wind strength, but if you make some mental notes you’ll keep improving as you play.

Eg . If I’m hitting into an 10kph headwind and deloft my 105 club (metres remember) to the line in the d of fade (in the loft window), it will go 111m.

[fadgewacker]

Dec 20, 2017 10:45:03 GMT -5 @bigm said:

I play in metres.

I'd rather die by calculation... Pah. Metres indeed...

We're confused about our measurements globally aren't we? USA is feet and inches, unless you're golfing (or footballing) where it's metres, where as here in the UK, it's the other way around.

Metres on a golf course indeed...