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Post by sparty404 on Jan 9, 2015 12:40:32 GMT -5
The difference between the top end of the PGA Tour and the bottom half or bottom third is significant. Really no way to compete and possibly not make any cuts. Not sure how these guys are dropping 59's and 55's on some of these courses but that is a discussion for another day.
I love TGC Tours but also want to feel like I can be competitive. I know you have a ton of courses as well - many of which may never get used. Any chance to create a PGA Tour "A" and a PGA Tour "B" or, at minimum, allow someone with a PGA Tour card to also enter Web.com events occasionally? I don't think some of us on the low end of the PGA Tour would create a competitive disadvantage for the upper end of the Web.com - the differences would be marginal if any. Thoughts? |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Jan 9, 2015 13:06:49 GMT -5
The difference between the top end of the PGA Tour and the bottom half or bottom third is significant. Really no way to compete and possibly not make any cuts. Not sure how these guys are dropping 59's and 55's on some of these courses but that is a discussion for another day.
I love TGC Tours but also want to feel like I can be competitive. I know you have a ton of courses as well - many of which may never get used. Any chance to create a PGA Tour "A" and a PGA Tour "B" or, at minimum, allow someone with a PGA Tour card to also enter Web.com events occasionally? I don't think some of us on the low end of the PGA Tour would create a competitive disadvantage for the upper end of the Web.com - the differences would be marginal if any. Thoughts? in relation to the first paragraph I am really disappointed that people think this way. There is no way to cheat or glitch on this game and it's unfortunate that those who aren't as good will always pose the question. Anyone I feel can do it because it's not even down to practice! I'm currently 12th in PGA and i play about 10 rounds per week! That is not extensive yet I am.able to compete because I work off the numbers like all the top players do! With regards to your point, I think what was raised in another thread would be a good option in the future to allow self demotion otherwise people may deliberately sit out 5 events just to move down! |
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Post by bubrave21 on Jan 9, 2015 14:46:03 GMT -5
Take a look at the Web.com tournament leaderboard for this week. I'm not so certain that you will find the refuge that you're looking for there either as scoring has been very good this week as well. This post by Tim from this morning is dead on for what TGC Tours should be for most of us. There are honestly a small percentage of players that will be at the top of the leaderboard on a consistent basis. It's all about setting personal goals, practicing like heck to achieve them and having fun with a great game and a great community of players. |
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Post by sparty404 on Jan 9, 2015 15:43:54 GMT -5
Take a look at the Web.com tournament leaderboard for this week. I'm not so certain that you will find the refuge that you're looking for there either as scoring has been very good this week as well. This post by Tim from this morning is dead on for what TGC Tours should be for most of us. There are honestly a small percentage of players that will be at the top of the leaderboard on a consistent basis. It's all about setting personal goals, practicing like heck to achieve them and having fun with a great game and a great community of players. Good link and good perspective. All that said, we should, as a community, continue to look for ways to make the competition part of this better. With all due respect to setting personal goals as a means to have fun, I could do that outside of TGC Tours. The awesome aspect of this was competing on a virtual golf tour with people other than myself. While I understand that indirectly, with personal goals, you may still need to compete to achieve them, the idea of being happy not making any cuts is demoralizing.
Something to consider is to make this less about all of the FedEx points, qualifying, etc. and just create and manage tours where players within a close skillset can actually have a chance. Maybe it's the "0-5 Handicap Tour" for example - where it is less about mimic'ing everything exactly like the PGA Tour and more about matching up players of similar caliber (the tournaments would not be handicapped). Make sense?
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Post by beefchief99 on Jan 9, 2015 16:24:46 GMT -5
I'm a fairly avid golfer and an even bigger video game nerd, so I try to look at this as a role playing experience. Based on how I shot at Q-School and my results after week one, I realize that it is going to be a struggle for me to stay in the Web.com tour. But that's ok! I look at it as I'm a grinder of marginal talent who REALLY wants to be a pro golfer, but doesn't really have the talent to win on the PGA. BUT if he can just grind it out and stay on the tour, he can eek out a living and improve his skills to make a run at the PGA. It beats going to Grad School!
If you just want to play something where you have a good chance of winning every week, then you are probably out of luck. There are over 200 people signed up for next tournament. That means if everyone was equal skill, you would have just a 33% chance of making the cut, much less winning the damn thing. Honestly though I think if you stick it out things will get easier. People who win 3 events get an automatic promotion, so that might weed out a few players over time. And there will be a good amount of people that just don't have the patience for something like this and will fall by the wayside. But I think the simulation and similarity to the actual PGA Tour is what drew a lot of people to this project in the first place. I say change nothing, see how this plays out, and if its not for you, don't sweat it, it is just a game.
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