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Post by beamstas on Jun 29, 2017 8:35:10 GMT -5
What is causing my shots to do this? Im using tour clubs. In TGC1 all my shots were straight as indicated by the white line, I very, very rarely hit outside of the cone. There was some slight deviation either way, but almost always center. I played most of my golf on the WEB tour and made it to PGA before the end of TGC1, almost always had 100% fairways hit due to my accuracy with the stick. In TGC2 im getting shots like this.. I KNOW that I am moving the stick straight up to the middle, maybe it could be a slight bit off, but there is no way in hell I am swinging the stick to the 1 o'clock position. What is causing my shots to be so far off centre at times? Is it that the visual representation isn't actually what your stick is doing, for example I was swinging to slightly off centre and it represents it as being way off centre? I just don't understand how i'm getting shots so far outside the cone at times? It actually makes me want to not play this game as it's infuriating.. I know that my swing isn't that far off centre.. It's never been that far off centre yet on TGC2 its showing me as swinging to 1 oclock or 11oclock when in TGC1 I would miss a fairway maybe 1 in 4 rounds because I was almost always perfectly straight. What else could be affecting this? It's almost like the visual representation is inaccurate, it is wildly exaggerated for example you swing slightly off centre and it shows that you swung WAY off centre? EDIT: Using XBOX one controller on PC (same as I used on TGC1). EDIT2: I understand on one of the pictures my backswing was "SLOW" but this shouldn't affect the visual representation of where I swung with the stick, right? Sure, it should affect the shot, but I didn't actually swing my stick to where it says I did.   |
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Jun 29, 2017 8:51:33 GMT -5
If you're playing on PC with a controller, make sure you've gone into steam big picture mode and calibrated your controller. The first day I played, I had the same kind of feeling "there is no way I'm that far off." I went into steam to see what calibration settings were available since I had never really checked, and found settings that allowed me to select support for the type of controller I am using (ps4) and was able to use their auto-calibrate function. Once I did that, things started making more sense.
That said, since I don't have a brand spanking new controller, I do feel there is an issue with the analog stick deadzone. I can't say if it's the same on console, but even after calibrating, I will have random shots that go way left/right and/or are either "very fast" or "very slow" when I know damn well it was the same swing as the one before it that was fine. Best I can guess - based on what I know about my controller in other games - is that the 3-5% deadzone I will typically use is coming into play on these 5-8 shots per round. Seeing as PC mouse players have a sensitivity setting in game, I would LOVE to have the ability to set a very small (>5%) deadzone on controller analog sticks. This would make a huge difference in the consistency of input, for me at least.
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Post by beamstas on Jun 29, 2017 9:57:50 GMT -5
So out of interest (after coming last in the PGA Society Event) I loaded up Black Brook and changed my Clubs to Player.. I went -11 with no shots outside the cone, a couple of timing errors but the line was nearly perfectly straight every time. I'm assuming being on the "TOUR CLUBS" exaggerates any deviation from centre by a large amount, causing big misses to the left or right... that is pathetic in my opinion.. If you swing the club and its 1 or 2 degrees off centre it shouldn't represent it as swinging towards 1 o'clock.. The line should show where your stick actually went. The difference between PLAYER and TOUR clubs is absolutely incredible.. I struggle to break par on TOUR and can shoot -11 at 1am when im falling asleep using Player clubs. I don't think there is an issue with my controller as I played a round on both settings and the misses were represented as MUCH larger on Tour.. At least make the visual representation of your swing correct and make the cone smaller (like TGC1 did)..?? I want to like this game I really do but It's actually infuriating when the screen is telling me im swinging to 1 o 'clock and I'm not.. Can't deal with this right now I'm going to put the game down for a couple of days..... There is no level playing field I could play PGA events on PLAYER clubs and score well or use TOUR and come dead last... Maybe I just hate losing and coming last on the society event by multiple strokes but It's really annoyed me. I can deal with my timing being off and hitting big hooks but the cone is pretty big you can't tell me I can't swing the club inside that  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:05:29 GMT -5
I literally can not hit it straight with the player clubs. Haven't even tried the tour clubs. My tempo is perfect/perfect every time, but I'm pulling everything. Very frustrating.
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Post by mcbogga on Jul 2, 2017 18:13:39 GMT -5
I have a suspicion that something else than the straightness of the movement is causing some of these results. Went from living on the edge of the cone to straight-lining it is my playsession earlier but didnt feel I was moving the stick any straighter really. Speed or acceleration or some other tempo component may be at play... P/P feedback on the swings so not that.
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Post by beamstas on Jul 2, 2017 21:49:00 GMT -5
I have a suspicion that something else than the straightness of the movement is causing some of these results. Went from living on the edge of the cone to straight-lining it is my playsession earlier but didnt feel I was moving the stick any straighter really. Speed or acceleration or some other tempo component may be at play... P/P feedback on the swings so not that. I see @edi_vedder like your post I was watching his stream and out of a bunker his line went to like 10 o clock and in tgc1 he was always within 1 or 2 pixels of perfeftly straight so I agree there is definitely something else at play, there is no way such a good player would swing their stick almost sideways. It almost exactly mirrored the screenshot i posted above... i feel like sometimes im swinging straight and its way off line. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 3:41:49 GMT -5
Is there any actual description from HB on what we should be doing?
Why is there no game manuals anymore?
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Post by pc17 on Jul 3, 2017 5:21:17 GMT -5
Basically, I'm in the same boat as you guys. The swing sensitivity for the Tour Clubs is just too great. So much so, that when you hit a shot left, and then hit a shot right, you have no idea what you're done wrong, and that's the frustrating thing about it all. If you don't know what you're done wrong, how the hell can you put it right. As a result of trying a few rounds with the Tour Clubs and feeling as though I'm not actually in control of my own shots, rather than rage about it all, I've now dropped to the Player Clubs. To me these clubs feel the most natural, whereby, I expect to hit a few wild shots just like any Pro would in real life, but still feel rewarded when I get it right.
My only fear, is that most people will want to play with Tour clubs, because they want to hit as far as they can. But I can see a few people reaching for a straight line controller because the frustration will get the better of then. I just hope the Admin guys will be on the lookout.
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Post by mcbogga on Jul 3, 2017 5:30:59 GMT -5
What you call frustrating, I think is intriguing.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Jul 3, 2017 7:08:35 GMT -5
My only fear, is that most people will want to play with Tour clubs, because they want to hit as far as they can. But I can see a few people reaching for a straight line controller because the frustration will get the better of then. I just hope the Admin guys will be on the lookout. Ya..don't want too many people doing what the admins do  |
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Post by edi_vedder on Jul 3, 2017 19:11:51 GMT -5
What you call frustrating, I think is intriguing. What are you going on about? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 2:59:55 GMT -5
What you call frustrating, I think is intriguing. What you call frustrating, I think is intriguing. What are you going on about? the way I see it Bogga is saying that he wants to work it out. Like me but I'm not sure I have the patience or time. The bunker is a perfect example. Every bunker shot I have played the swing indicator says way right or left. But why? What is the correct way to play the bunker shot? Smooth tempo? Slow? Fast? Full loft? No loft? I want to know!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 3:04:48 GMT -5
I have a suspicion that something else than the straightness of the movement is causing some of these results. Went from living on the edge of the cone to straight-lining it is my playsession earlier but didnt feel I was moving the stick any straighter really. Speed or acceleration or some other tempo component may be at play... P/P feedback on the swings so not that. I see @edi_vedder like your post I was watching his stream and out of a bunker his line went to like 10 o clock and in tgc1 he was always within 1 or 2 pixels of perfeftly straight so I agree there is definitely something else at play, there is no way such a good player would swing their stick almost sideways. It almost exactly mirrored the screenshot i posted above... i feel like sometimes im swinging straight and its way off line. Note that out of a bunker or the rough there lies a much narrower "perfect spot". Look at your two pics in the OP. The second pic shows how a shot from a penal lie plays. Look how much narrower the cone is in that one. That would explain why you can be so far out of the cone and so far off target. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 3:09:35 GMT -5
I have a suspicion that something else than the straightness of the movement is causing some of these results. Went from living on the edge of the cone to straight-lining it is my playsession earlier but didnt feel I was moving the stick any straighter really. Speed or acceleration or some other tempo component may be at play... P/P feedback on the swings so not that. I see @edi_vedder like your post I was watching his stream and out of a bunker his line went to like 10 o clock and in tgc1 he was always within 1 or 2 pixels of perfeftly straight so I agree there is definitely something else at play, there is no way such a good player would swing their stick almost sideways. It almost exactly mirrored the screenshot i posted above... i feel like sometimes im swinging straight and its way off line. The cone is much smaller out of the bunker. So anything non almost perfect will be severely exaggerated. With Perfect downswing, the line outside of the cone is all about how straight you shot is. There is virtually no way to hit it str8 out of a penal lie without the aid of a straight shooting device within the cone with a P/P. |
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Post by nevadaballin on Jul 4, 2017 8:40:45 GMT -5
A discovery i made late last night - or I was just really partaking too much in something - what you think is the bottom (6 o'clock) of your analog stick really isn't. I'll leave it there for now. It isn't your push up that is causing this.
I'll be experimenting more with this after work today.
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