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Post by titaneddie on Dec 22, 2016 15:53:46 GMT -5
I only use the red brushes to cut away fairway from hazards, which works fine. But then other times not only does it cut the fairway away it actually lowers the ground as well. Any idea why sometimes the ground level is lowered and other times it isn't?
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 22, 2016 16:16:45 GMT -5
because the red brush is stupid and has no purpose. That's my answer and I'm sticking to it. The only time to EVER use it is if you are trying to lay rough over existing fairway or green.
Answer = Not sure...another reason I don't use it.
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Post by titaneddie on Dec 22, 2016 16:25:27 GMT -5
because the red brush is stupid and has no purpose. That's my answer and I'm sticking to it. The only time to EVER use it is if you are trying to lay rough over existing fairway or green. Answer = Not sure...another reason I don't use it. Lol thanks Reeb. If you don't know I'm guessing no one will. I thought maybe it had something to do with the elevation of the fairway you were trying to cut away... I ran some tests and that didn't seem to matter either.
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Post by Han on Dec 22, 2016 17:10:52 GMT -5
I use the red flatten brush quite a lot to trim bits of fairway down to get the exact shape i want or to smooth out a curve etc but I don't think I have ever had it lower the ground though. You sure you didn't use the red raise brush rather than the flatten one as I have a feeling that may do what you are experiencing (I can't get in game atm to check).
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Post by titaneddie on Dec 22, 2016 17:19:57 GMT -5
I use the red flatten brush quite a lot to trim bits of fairway down to get the exact shape i want or to smooth out a curve etc but I don't think I have ever had it lower the ground though. You sure you didn't use the red raise brush rather than the flatten one as I have a feeling that may do what you are experiencing (I can't get in game atm to check). I tried both. So I don't think that's it. But thinking about it I have another theory I'll check later when I get home. I wonder if it depends on if you start with own flattened plot as opposed to auto generated terrain plot. Cause when I was testing this on my previous made courses it didn't lower on my flat plots, only my auto gen plots....or it may have nothing to do with it lol.
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Post by Han on Dec 22, 2016 17:43:03 GMT -5
I dont think that's it either. I am currently working on a plot that's not flat (the whole thing is at least 100ft + above water level) and it still works fine for me.
If you are doing it on raised ground, you are still taking the brush below the water level aren't you ? If not I think that's why it may be happening although it shouldn't take the fairway away either then though so if it's still doing that as well then I'm not sure *shrug*
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Post by titaneddie on Dec 22, 2016 17:47:10 GMT -5
Yeah I am Han . I used it quite a bit on my last course and didnt have this happen. I've just been messing around on new project and that's when it started happening to me. And it actually did this to me on one my first courses which is why I never bothered to used the red brush again until the last few months. Well so much for my theory then.
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 22, 2016 18:00:14 GMT -5
Oh I could come up with an answer but I'm here to tell you just don't use it. There is nothing you can't do with the blue brush other than trim the fairway back and make it impossible to "overwrite" the texture. Just ignore them unless you are taking away from an existing fairway. That's my strong suggestion to save yourself many headaches
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 22, 2016 18:00:46 GMT -5
Oh I could come up with an answer but I'm here to tell you just don't use it. There is nothing you can't do with the blue brush other than trim the fairway back and make it impossible to "overwrite" the texture. Just ignore them unless you are taking away from an existing fairway. That's my strong suggestion to save yourself many headaches
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Post by titaneddie on Dec 22, 2016 23:05:49 GMT -5
For those that have any interest in this here are my findings...
If you don't do any flattening with the blue brush before you lay fairway down, using the red brush to remove areas of that fairway will also lower the terrain. Which is probably why you guys havnt encountered this, cause obviously it's always best to flatten the area first before laying down fairway. So yeah, whatever.
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 22, 2016 23:45:29 GMT -5
Sorry for not being very helpful. Ha! I just used to have so many issues because of those dumb red brushes
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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 23, 2016 12:42:37 GMT -5
There are two levels of terrain. What you see before surfaces are laid down is calles the Base Terrain. The red brush can be used to modify the base terrain. Once you do anything else (e.g. sculpt with the blue brushes, lay down fairway, rough, green, sand or whatever) that area becomes Modified Terrain. Essentially, all changes made with the blue brushes override the changes with the red brush. Once your terrain is modified, then making changes to the Base Terrain has no effect.
There is one scenario where things work differently, and that comes up when the Base Terrain is below the water table. When that happens, even if the modified terrain is above the water table, you cannot place fairway or green surfaces. That is why you can "cut out" pieces of fairway and leave the rough and the sand in place.
When I start out and I build my landscape before I build a course, I use the red brushes to modify the Base Terrain. After that, I use only the blue brushes unless I have trouble laying fairway or green surfaces down.
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 23, 2016 13:17:16 GMT -5
why? Why do you use the red brushes to do anything? The blue brushes do it also and you don't run into surprises...
Someone please tell me why you would use the red brushes to do terrain first. What is the point?
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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 23, 2016 13:23:12 GMT -5
I use the red brush initially so that I can clearly see where my Base Terrain meets the water table before I start building anything. It saves me from that issue where you can't place a fairway down.
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Post by mnguy12000 on Dec 27, 2016 15:34:56 GMT -5
I use the red brush initially so that I can clearly see where my Base Terrain meets the water table before I start building anything. It saves me from that issue where you can't place a fairway down. then you just use the red brush to raise the terrain up. I do not touch the red brush unless I run into that situation, then it is raise, red done.
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