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Post by smores on Oct 4, 2016 6:18:13 GMT -5
Very interesting post. Personally, I spend majority of my time on my PC. I feel there are a lot of advantages that come with it that you just can't get with consoles. Now I build my own computers, so I'm a bit bias, but nonetheless, I like the idea of being able to upgrade a piece of hardware, rather than having to go buy a new console to experience additional performance.
Actually, I bought an Xbox 360 last week because of a big sale going on just to see if I'd enjoy it. Honestly, I have only touched it a couple times. I really only like simulation type games, shooters, and The Golf Club (of course). After looking at game titles for Xbox, I felt like my options were very limited, but this is merely just my opinion of course.
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Post by stephan on Oct 4, 2016 8:44:28 GMT -5
It's a shame that the PC doesn't really get any relevant exclusives. This is highly subjective though. There are around 5 console exclusives that came out in the last 5 years that I´d be interested in playing, but there are dozens of games I´ve played that are PC exclusive or at least have superior PC versions, TGC being one of them. (I haven´t played TGC on consoles myself, but that seems to be the consensus)
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Post by tomkatt on Oct 4, 2016 10:09:56 GMT -5
It's a shame that the PC doesn't really get any relevant exclusives. This is highly subjective though. There are around 5 console exclusives that came out in the last 5 years that I´d be interested in playing, but there are dozens of games I´ve played that are PC exclusive or at least have superior PC versions, TGC being one of them. (I haven´t played TGC on consoles myself, but that seems to be the consensus) Totally agree here. I feel the same way. After playing many games in either 1440p or 2160p (4k) at 60fps or close to it, it's hard to go back to console games with 30 fps at 900p or 1080p at best. Especially when we're getting into texture quality as well. I played Max Payne 3 again recently with settings maxed on PC at 1440p and it just blows the console versions away. Heck, even at 1080p the PC version looks and runs way better. Quite a few games are like this, even when multiplatform. Not hating on console gamers or anything. I was 100% console gamer through the PS2/GC/XB-OG console generation, but with the PS3 and XB360 I got pretty disenfranchised. Modern consoles aren't unique experiences anymore, just stripped down PCs in walled garden OSes/ecospheres. I don't want to settle for an inferior experience for otherwise identical games. Plus, while the initial cost of a PC is higher, between being able to upgrade incrementally and the fact that games are often cheaper on PC, I'm pretty sure I've saved money on PC gaming in the long run.
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Post by Brighttail on Oct 4, 2016 12:41:13 GMT -5
This is the way I feel. I have a 34 in wide screen 3440x1440 monitor. It runs at 100MHz. I can play any title at max settings and still get higher than 60FPS consistently. Turning on my 1080p tv and watching things at 30FPS just is visually disappointing and to get that often you have to turn down settings.
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Post by Lowenberger on Oct 4, 2016 14:23:16 GMT -5
Its probably because I spend most of my workday in front of a computer, but the last thing I want to do is play my video games at a desk/computer.
Which is too bad, because the PC has way more exclusives for the types of games I'm interested in (Cities Skylines, Civilization, Starbound, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc.). Wish more of these would come to consoles.
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Post by mde8965 on Oct 4, 2016 14:50:42 GMT -5
Its probably because I spend most of my workday in front of a computer, but the last thing I want to do is play my video games at a desk/computer. Which is too bad, because the PC has way more exclusives for the types of games I'm interested in (Cities Skylines, Civilization, Starbound, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc.). Wish more of these would come to consoles. I play games on my PC from my recliner in my office/game room. The room is 11 x11ft and my tv is a 46" plasmato which the PC is connected. The controller runs on Bluetooth. So it's exactly the same playing games on my PC as it is on XBOne and PS4 which are also connected to the same TV. Through an AVR running a 5.2 home theater setup. The TV is about 5.5 ft from me.
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Post by dazzathfc on Oct 4, 2016 14:54:10 GMT -5
Seems to make more sense to use PC. It's more cost effective for a start. I can upgrade my gfx card for the same price as a console and it'll be 'up to date' for longer
Games are generally cheaper plus I prefer the online aspect of pc. It all just runs better in my opinion plus you can upgrade bits when you want
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Post by tomkatt on Oct 4, 2016 16:18:03 GMT -5
Its probably because I spend most of my workday in front of a computer, but the last thing I want to do is play my video games at a desk/computer. Which is too bad, because the PC has way more exclusives for the types of games I'm interested in (Cities Skylines, Civilization, Starbound, Stardew Valley, Rimworld, etc.). Wish more of these would come to consoles. I think this is something of a misconception. I mean, I've got desktop rigs, but my "gaming box" is a mini-ITX cube setup connected to my 43" TV. I play with wireless PS3 controllers from my comfy chair setup, not sitting at a desk. In fact, everything on that system is wireless, the controllers and the keyboard and mouse. Though it's predominantly controller enabled, I used to launch it with Kodi, or straight to Steam Big Picture mode.
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Post by nevadaballin on Oct 4, 2016 20:42:35 GMT -5
Everyone deserves their own flavor.
I spend my entire work day at a computer. The last thing I want to do when I relax to play some games is to be at a computer again. I don't even want to look at one by the end of my work day. Get the keyboards and mouse out of my hands. Plus the cost of a "do it all" gaming computer is very high.
I'm happy kicking back in my recliner with my "do it all" PS4 because it does all i need it to do. I'm not that hardcore of a person when it comes to video games.
Funny thing about serious computer gamers, they like to post their computer specs in their forum sigs/twitch pages (all over the internet, not here specifically) as if they were advertising their penis sizes... lol.
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 5, 2016 0:49:09 GMT -5
Seems to make more sense to use PC. It's more cost effective for a start. I can upgrade my gfx card for the same price as a console and it'll be 'up to date' for longer Games are generally cheaper plus I prefer the online aspect of pc. It all just runs better in my opinion plus you can upgrade bits when you want How often do you need to upgrade your GFX card? What about processor, Ram? A console lasts about 7 years.
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Post by tastegw on Oct 5, 2016 1:31:00 GMT -5
Seems to make more sense to use PC. It's more cost effective for a start. I can upgrade my gfx card for the same price as a console and it'll be 'up to date' for longer Games are generally cheaper plus I prefer the online aspect of pc. It all just runs better in my opinion plus you can upgrade bits when you want How often do you need to upgrade your GFX card? What about processor, Ram? A console lasts about 7 years. That all depends on the original hardware you chose. If you built a budget spec pc, you would need upgrades faster. If you built a high end spec pc, you can stretch that out much longer. as far as other hardware goes other than video card, as long as they are not a noticeable bottleneck to you GPU, you can get away with keeping them as long as they work. one of the main reasons video cards imo are the most upgraded hardware pieces is Direct X, and how programmers/developers take advantage of it and the newer versions. When there are major advances from one version to another, it gives consumers a good reason to upgrade so they can play and take advantage of it in that new hot game. CPU advances has gone rather stale since the introduction of the i7 line up years ago. Ram has made some strides, but it's mostly in frequency and timings, most of us have more than enough in size (gigs) so that isn't much of an issue. So the real gains from the frequency and times yields little real world notice ability, though those gains can be clearly seen in benchmarks, still nothing worth selling your house over. so ya, the biggest performance gains you can get in online gaming is from upgrading video card.
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 5, 2016 2:30:43 GMT -5
So I guess my question is how much would you spend over a 7 year period, including initial purchase to be able to play any game on the market?
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Post by tastegw on Oct 5, 2016 3:07:05 GMT -5
So I guess my question is how much would you spend over a 7 year period, including initial purchase to be able to play any game on the market? that is all up to the consumer and how much performance he/she wants. does he/she want 60+ fps on the highest settings? or are they more than willing to step down to a mid level range. I will take my Titan I bought nearly 4 years ago (44 months) into example: the price tag on that was outrageous, almost twice of its worth in power per watts. But it was all about timing for me, I was already building a brand new rig and wanted the best that i could get in the form of single gpu card. This titan is still kicking, and I am banking on it kicking for a couple more years at a minimum. even after 4 years, its still has the raw power to play the games I play maxed out, and I know that will likely not be the case years down the road, it has earned its keep so to speak. I could upgrade now to a gtx1080 and see a decent performance difference, but at this time its not needed, my current performance is not in need of an upgrade. in fact, nothing in my build will need replacing until it breaks or a game that i really want to play uses a new version of DirectX that the titan does not support. future proofing, costs good money up front, but saves money on the back end. Now, my story is a little extreme with the Titan, I could have gone with a GTX 780 at that time and upgraded it 2-4 years later for another card at that price point, and looking back, that would have been smarter in the long run, but i simply was not on a budget, and the titan was just about to be released, and there was a lot of hype (and benches to back it up). If i were to build a pc this month, it would get a GTX1080 in it, that should last much longer than my current titan will last me backed dated 4 years ago. the new line-up from nvidia seems to be quite a leap from the previous gen.
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Post by Brighttail on Oct 5, 2016 9:27:43 GMT -5
As Taste said many PCs can last for a very long time and still play games pretty well. I'm selling a PC I have from 7 years ago and I was able to play just about all the games I play today (with reduced settings) with no problem. I'm selling it for $300. It will play anything I threw at it at 1080p with 60FPS solid. You just have to turn settings down to medium. TGC is on Medium settings and was getting 70ish FPS at 1080p. So you don't have to upgrade as much as you might think.
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Post by dazzathfc on Oct 5, 2016 12:29:56 GMT -5
Seems to make more sense to use PC. It's more cost effective for a start. I can upgrade my gfx card for the same price as a console and it'll be 'up to date' for longer Games are generally cheaper plus I prefer the online aspect of pc. It all just runs better in my opinion plus you can upgrade bits when you want How often do you need to upgrade your GFX card? What about processor, Ram? A console lasts about 7 years. well my gtx 660 ti gfx card was released in august 2012 and my processor (i7 2600) came out in january 2011 both still going strong and running games on max settings. I reckon i'll get away with those 2 for another 2-3 years and then i'll upgrade to something that was new 1-2 years ago and then go again another 5-6 years later. I had a ps4 but rarely played it. I'll be honest and say I do download torrents but only single player games (naughty naughty) but I have mates who play pc online so we 'meet up' 2-3 times a week online to play some fifa, battlefield, warcraft etc all about preference
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