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Post by mcbogga on Jul 21, 2016 18:03:08 GMT -5
What will happen once TGC2 comes out? 1. A group of fanboys will rush to the forums to basically spew gooey warm love all over the forums. 2. A group of trolls will come in and say how horrible it is, how it's not a real 2nd edition of the game and state their desire to see Anthony Kyne sacrificed to the dark lord. 3. Another group will say they're sick of the fact a game launch is dominated by the two extremes of opinions. 4. My game play will still suck. So like Brexit but with 1 and 2 reversed?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 18:04:31 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by bruce on Jul 22, 2016 8:52:39 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ?
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Post by jarednich on Jul 22, 2016 9:26:09 GMT -5
As a PS4 user, I'd gladly pay to have the current build they are testing and then pay again when the new game comes out.
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Post by HB_KeithC on Jul 22, 2016 9:57:52 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ? TGC2 will run on consoles for sure. HB would not create a 2nd game that would now only run on PCs after TGC1 ran on consoles. There is this huge misconception that TGC1 is a "simple golf game". There is nothing simple about how the game is built. By having the entire course in play and not just the hole you are playing means that the entire course is rendered with physics active on all objects. Battlefield gets away with just having the area you are in rendered plus they just have a flat sky texture, it is not dynamic like TGC. TGC has atmospheric lighting that interacts with the sky and mountains.
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Post by pyates on Jul 22, 2016 9:59:58 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ? One of the key facts about TGC2 is the updated engine. That should mean that despite the graphics and resource upgrades the game should run better. Unity 4 wasn't built specifically for the current generation of consoles or graphics cards, plus the original game wasn't built to get to the level that it did. So hopefully we can have a decent amount of cake and get to eat it as well. Also, not everyone is fortunate enough to get out on the links to enjoy our great sport in the sunshine so may not be an alternative option for all
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 10:22:15 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ? TGC2 will run on consoles for sure. HB would not create a 2nd game that would now only run on PCs after TGC1 ran on consoles. There is this huge misconception that TGC1 is a "simple golf game". There is nothing simple about how the game is built. By having the entire course in play and not just the hole you are playing means that the entire course is rendered with physics active on all objects. Battlefield gets away with just having the area you are in rendered plus they just have a flat sky texture, it is not dynamic like TGC. TGC has atmospheric lighting that interacts with the sky and mountains. I've done beta testing for games for almost 15 years and it's always amazing how people think games are "simple" to design.
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Post by tastegw on Jul 22, 2016 10:26:49 GMT -5
i dont know what tgctours will do, but im hoping they jump all over tgc2 and get something going as soon as they can:
qschool qualifiers for a month, then jump right into whatever week the pros are at. ( we will have plenty of courses out in the first day alone from imported courses, and most of those will be of quality i think)
with the polls i ran a few weeks ago both here and over at tgc forums, of the total players who voted, 90% or more of us will have the game on opening day. (68 out of 73 voters here) (62 out of 67 voters there)
maybe all thats just wishful thinking. but i do know this, after tgc 2 is released, there will be zero reason for me to ever load up tgc 1 again.
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Post by yaters on Jul 22, 2016 10:40:10 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ? TGC2 will run on consoles for sure. HB would not create a 2nd game that would now only run on PCs after TGC1 ran on consoles. There is this huge misconception that TGC1 is a "simple golf game". There is nothing simple about how the game is built. By having the entire course in play and not just the hole you are playing means that the entire course is rendered with physics active on all objects. Battlefield gets away with just having the area you are in rendered plus they just have a flat sky texture, it is not dynamic like TGC. TGC has atmospheric lighting that interacts with the sky and mountains. Nicely said Keith. Do you have any idea if TGC2 will have the same graphic quality on XB1 and PS4? I believe TGC1 runs at only 900p on XB1 now. It may be too early to know this, but hoping that's at least a goal. Edit: PS - looking for a way to convince my wife it is time to upgrade the ol' TV. Not sure if my obsession with a golf game is a good route, but it might be the arrow in my quiver to tip the scales
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Post by Brighttail on Jul 22, 2016 12:41:26 GMT -5
My guess is that TGCT will move to TGC 2, latest and greatest n all. I would even imagine they may play a shortened season 3 while giving everyone a month or 2 to buy, test, practice before they start things up. Eventually I would think they would drop TGC 1 after the season concludes, thus giving everyone ample opportunity to upgrade. At the same time, I would expect a forum where volunteers could still host tournaments for those not wanting to go over. Sorta like we have TST here. Not official but still running on the site.
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Post by pyates on Jul 22, 2016 14:01:18 GMT -5
i dont know what tgctours will do, but im hoping they jump all over tgc2 and get something going as soon as they can: qschool qualifiers for a month, then jump right into whatever week the pros are at. ( we will have plenty of courses out in the first day alone from imported courses, and most of those will be of quality i think) with the polls i ran a few weeks ago both here and over at tgc forums, of the total players who voted, 90% or more of us will have the game on opening day. (68 out of 73 voters here) (62 out of 67 voters there) maybe all thats just wishful thinking. but i do know this, after tgc 2 is released, there will be zero reason for me to ever load up tgc 1 again. Personally, I don't think you'll see any of my old courses immediately. I'll get myself familiar with the new tools and give the ones I want to send over a new lease of life. I'll probably build a TGC2 course or 2 in TGC1 and release to TGC1 just to port it across to TGC2, then spend a short while adding the new shiny bits before they emerge I imagine many will be in the "Just get it over to TGC2" camp in which case they may benefit from the initial surge in players... or be hit by the huge wave of courses
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Post by anubus94 on Jul 23, 2016 15:07:49 GMT -5
I really doubt Console users will be able to run TGC2, On a lot of courses now it chugs pretty badly. We don't need more eye candy, it seems to basically ruin really good games. As I said before though, how a simple golf game brings rigs to there knees I don't know, especially when there are games like Battlefield series that have action going on everywhere. Ok make a few trees move and the water ripple a bit, maybe a stray animal or bird move, but thats about it. The game is plenty detailed enough in its present state. If you want more detail, get outside and play the real game, and maybe even get hit by a ball or two. Do we actually have to see every individual blade of grass move independently ? TGC2 mentioned it will upgrade from Unity 4 game engine to Unity 5. Unity 5 has big improvement in physics engine which TGC may use (or maybe they completely wrote their own custom one) as well as shaders and lighting and probably many optimizations. It is possible TGC2 will run smoother on PS4 and with a huge user base on xbox and PS the devs will probably make sure it is playable. Here is a video showing performance (increase by nearly 50%) compare for one game but the developers may have optimized other things in an update on that game but having a good engine is the biggest key on top of optimized art assets:
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Post by anubus94 on Jul 23, 2016 15:11:30 GMT -5
Personally I am looking forward to TGC2 as it is promising increases in difficulty to keep the scores more uniform. The lowest recorded round in PGA tour tournament golf is 59 and tournaments rarely have winners with better than -20 for 4 rounds. On this game, scores are consistently in the upper 50s for top players. Making it harder to execute a perfect swing every time and loft to desired distance will be a huge improvement IMHO. But I do think that TGC tours should give the game several months before cutting over to allow everyone time to move over to it and also let the initial bugs settle out that is inevitable with any new game release title.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 1, 2016 7:17:32 GMT -5
I would be happy if they just fixed what is wrong with the current game and released it as TGC2..after all it would be an entirely different game. Too many flaws in this game that have never been addressed.
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