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Post by Andrea on Feb 9, 2016 15:28:20 GMT -5
Now now gentlemen, I do not want people thinking I'm god like when there are plenty of people who have already shot lower than me in this tournament! Oh and Andrea, it was a measly -49 if you were referring to me But on a serious note. Wag, you hit the nail on the head a couple of posts up where you've said yourself that you missed 30+ putts to lower your score. Imagine if say half or 2/3rds of those fell, which on another day they probably would have. That is why I've finished -49 and you've finished -19. I literally had everything drop for me. I could have comfortably lost 15 shots along the way had I not been on my A game and if you had a little more luck there probably would have only been a couple of shots between us. Consistency is without doubt the key so whilst a 30 shot difference looks big on paper, the margin is certainly not that large. I played the first two rounds of the Web tournament for practice and finished up -25, which looking at the first round scores would probably get me a top 10 spot as we speak. When I tried the Web tournament the previous week I don't think I'd have even made the cut so again, consistency is the word. I've been fortunate thus far too in that the greens have been pretty slow, which most definitely favours me. If we get to play on fast greens then I assure you my scores will not be so low as I simply cannot control the ball. Honestly, don't beat yourself up about it and worry about the likes of me. Once you find that consistency and get a rhythm going, you'll wonder what you were worrying about all along. And as I said under the other thread you created, if I'm shooting like you when I'm 58 then I'd be mighty proud. You're right -49 (I mixed up your scores with Shaun Devlin's I think) BTW I wasn't implying anything fishy on your side, not for a second - I was truly impressed by the performance of such a new player. Not by "the score itself" if you know what I mean (I scored -62 with more than a few silly misses for what is worth ). I didn't know all the story (now I do ). But don't underestimate yourself - I think you'll be ready for WEB (at least) in a couple of weeks. And anyways I too think that @wagtunes with a couple of adjustment to his game will be perfectly capable to pull off that kind of scoring in a course like Spirit Mountain. I'm curious now Wag - were did you struggle this week?
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Post by Andrea on Feb 9, 2016 15:36:37 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I opened a thread in suggestion box that if somebody takes Q School and doesn't compete in his first event within 30 days, he has to take Q School again before he can compete so that he's placed in the tier he belongs. You can read my reasons there. I'm not going to repeat the whole post here. I saw that. I'm totally with you on that idea. There's no one's fault of course (Paul's in this case ) but when something like this happens (accidentally or not) it could really prevent more than a few promotions per week. Of course if someone is committed to sandbagging you can't prevent it anyways - cause he would play bad the "second" Q-School attempt anyways. But, the thing sandbaggers fail to realize (and I'M NOT POINTING FINGERS - at all!), is that winning in CC, when you are qualified for higher tours is kinda pointless...cause the amount of points won't get you that far. Unless they're doing it for the badges
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 15:39:30 GMT -5
Now now gentlemen, I do not want people thinking I'm god like when there are plenty of people who have already shot lower than me in this tournament! Oh and Andrea, it was a measly -49 if you were referring to me But on a serious note. Wag, you hit the nail on the head a couple of posts up where you've said yourself that you missed 30+ putts to lower your score. Imagine if say half or 2/3rds of those fell, which on another day they probably would have. That is why I've finished -49 and you've finished -19. I literally had everything drop for me. I could have comfortably lost 15 shots along the way had I not been on my A game and if you had a little more luck there probably would have only been a couple of shots between us. Consistency is without doubt the key so whilst a 30 shot difference looks big on paper, the margin is certainly not that large. I played the first two rounds of the Web tournament for practice and finished up -25, which looking at the first round scores would probably get me a top 10 spot as we speak. When I tried the Web tournament the previous week I don't think I'd have even made the cut so again, consistency is the word. I've been fortunate thus far too in that the greens have been pretty slow, which most definitely favours me. If we get to play on fast greens then I assure you my scores will not be so low as I simply cannot control the ball. Honestly, don't beat yourself up about it and worry about the likes of me. Once you find that consistency and get a rhythm going, you'll wonder what you were worrying about all along. And as I said under the other thread you created, if I'm shooting like you when I'm 58 then I'd be mighty proud. You're right -49 (I mixed up your scores with Shaun Devlin's I think) BTW I wasn't implying anything fishy on your side, not for a second - I was truly impressed by the performance of such a new player. Not by "the score itself" if you know what I mean (I scored -62 with more than a few silly misses for what is worth ). I didn't know all the story (now I do ). But don't underestimate yourself - I think you'll be ready for WEB (at least) in a couple of weeks. And anyways I too think that @wagtunes with a couple of adjustment to his game will be perfectly capable to pull off that kind of scoring in a course like Spirit Mountain. I'm curious now Wag - were did you struggle this week? -62!!?!! I did see two of those posted so clearly you're one of them! That is an absolutely sensational score and just goes to show how good some people REALLY are. I'm not a new player mate, just new to TGC Tours. Won't go into detail again but I bought the game when it first came out, had a few months on it before selling my console and recently bought another but sadly headed immediately to Q-School without taking into account the changes that had been made to the game over that 12 month period. I've accustomed myself well to the changes but in all honesty, I don't see myself improving much. Watching some of these PGA/Euro players, well they're on another planet. I'd like to aim for Web one day but whether I'm good enough to stay there is another matter. Just being part of the tour is the main thing. It's certainly what the game was crying for and the guys that run it should be very proud in what they've achieved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 15:56:00 GMT -5
Now now gentlemen, I do not want people thinking I'm god like when there are plenty of people who have already shot lower than me in this tournament! Oh and Andrea, it was a measly -49 if you were referring to me But on a serious note. Wag, you hit the nail on the head a couple of posts up where you've said yourself that you missed 30+ putts to lower your score. Imagine if say half or 2/3rds of those fell, which on another day they probably would have. That is why I've finished -49 and you've finished -19. I literally had everything drop for me. I could have comfortably lost 15 shots along the way had I not been on my A game and if you had a little more luck there probably would have only been a couple of shots between us. Consistency is without doubt the key so whilst a 30 shot difference looks big on paper, the margin is certainly not that large. I played the first two rounds of the Web tournament for practice and finished up -25, which looking at the first round scores would probably get me a top 10 spot as we speak. When I tried the Web tournament the previous week I don't think I'd have even made the cut so again, consistency is the word. I've been fortunate thus far too in that the greens have been pretty slow, which most definitely favours me. If we get to play on fast greens then I assure you my scores will not be so low as I simply cannot control the ball. Honestly, don't beat yourself up about it and worry about the likes of me. Once you find that consistency and get a rhythm going, you'll wonder what you were worrying about all along. And as I said under the other thread you created, if I'm shooting like you when I'm 58 then I'd be mighty proud. You're right -49 (I mixed up your scores with Shaun Devlin's I think) BTW I wasn't implying anything fishy on your side, not for a second - I was truly impressed by the performance of such a new player. Not by "the score itself" if you know what I mean (I scored -62 with more than a few silly misses for what is worth ). I didn't know all the story (now I do ). But don't underestimate yourself - I think you'll be ready for WEB (at least) in a couple of weeks. And anyways I too think that @wagtunes with a couple of adjustment to his game will be perfectly capable to pull off that kind of scoring in a course like Spirit Mountain. I'm curious now Wag - were did you struggle this week? Andrea, this week was just a snow ball of a lot of things. 1) Seeing the top sponsor score before even teeing up was discouraging. On my best day there is no way I shoot 14 under. 10 under, maybe. But that's on my best day. I average 7 under per round on this course. 2) Missing putts by literally inches early on began the frustration. 3) A bad drive off the tee (one of only 3 the whole day) cost me 3 strokes that really set me back. That caused me to have to play catch up and with the already existing pressure, that's just no way to play. By round 2, after shooting 2 under round 1, the pressure was totally off because I knew I was already out of it. The rest of the day was simply missing one putt after another by inches. I missed an ace by 10 inches and an eagle by 2 feet. all day it was a case of "close but no cigar." I couldn't buy a birdie putt to save my life. How I even shot 19 under is a miracle considering how many birdies I missed by inches. At least 7 or 8 per round. It was beyond frustrating. However, this tournament was not without its pluses. 1) My new controller has almost completely straightened out my drive. The only reason for the bad shots off the tee were hole 13 where I tried cutting it around the tree too closely to get that extra yardage. That was a strategic mistake that I won't make again. 2) My approach shots were much better on average. I had quite a few within 5 feet. Those were most of my birdies. However, the ones from 10 to 12 feet were the ones I missed by inches. With those going in, today was a whole different story and I'd probably be competing for to 10 again like last week when I finished T10th. 3) I was more relaxed than ever. It was the first time I was confident in my own ability even though I knew I wasn't quite good enough to shoot in the 50s. This will help me in future tournaments. 4) I made some adjustments to how I handle the wind in both judging and playing it and they made a considerable difference. It easily saved me at least 2 or 3 strokes each round or this day would have been an even bigger disaster. All in all, if I can consistently put all this together, I should be okay. I'm definitely better than I was 6 months ago when I was shooting in the 80s and 90s. It's coming. It's just coming slowly.
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Post by TimB on Feb 9, 2016 16:16:00 GMT -5
Wags, this may or may not help.
But I can totally relate to playing the catch up game, did that for a very long time. It's too stressful and caused me to make many mistakes or take chances that put me in trouble.
Now for the last 4 weeks this is my routine.
Saturday I avoid the spoiler thread.
When I start the tournament (after a quick round to dial out my slice) I avoid looking at the leader board, I spam the A button until I hear John start speaking at the start of the round.
I then immediately turn off all ghosts.
I then play my round, in between holes when the leader board is shown, I look away, spam the A button until the next hole starts.
Thats how I play my entire tournament. I once clicked through the score card but have since learned to catch that.
I'm done worrying about what or how others are playing. I go out play my rounds the way I play and seem to do better. I have my own style of play and for better or worse I have to use that to my advantage and not try and adjust my play to way other people play.
That's what seems to have helped me anyway.
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Post by TimB on Feb 9, 2016 16:22:42 GMT -5
Also, look at my avatar. Thats from today at Fossmill where my tee shot put me in very heavy rough. Instead of trying to make up distance and get out of there, my go to shot for that situation is a pitching wedge and just get back on the fairway, then try and salvage par or at worst bogey.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Feb 9, 2016 16:27:11 GMT -5
Also, look at my avatar. Thats from today at Fossmill where my tee shot put me in very heavy rough. Instead of trying to make up distance and get out of there, my go to shot for that situation is a pitching wedge and just get back on the fairway, then try and salvage par or at worst bogey. Hey...I was there saw it 1st hand
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Post by TimB on Feb 9, 2016 16:29:37 GMT -5
What an ugly round. I started out bad when we couldnt get connected i raced through to catch up to you on the 1'st green, 3 shots to get there lol..then missed my bogey putt unreal lol
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Post by Andrea on Feb 9, 2016 16:43:51 GMT -5
You're right -49 (I mixed up your scores with Shaun Devlin's I think) BTW I wasn't implying anything fishy on your side, not for a second - I was truly impressed by the performance of such a new player. Not by "the score itself" if you know what I mean (I scored -62 with more than a few silly misses for what is worth ). I didn't know all the story (now I do ). But don't underestimate yourself - I think you'll be ready for WEB (at least) in a couple of weeks. And anyways I too think that @wagtunes with a couple of adjustment to his game will be perfectly capable to pull off that kind of scoring in a course like Spirit Mountain. I'm curious now Wag - were did you struggle this week? -62!!?!! I did see two of those posted so clearly you're one of them! That is an absolutely sensational score and just goes to show how good some people REALLY are. I'm not a new player mate, just new to TGC Tours. Won't go into detail again but I bought the game when it first came out, had a few months on it before selling my console and recently bought another but sadly headed immediately to Q-School without taking into account the changes that had been made to the game over that 12 month period. I've accustomed myself well to the changes but in all honesty, I don't see myself improving much. Watching some of these PGA/Euro players, well they're on another planet. I'd like to aim for Web one day but whether I'm good enough to stay there is another matter. Just being part of the tour is the main thing. It's certainly what the game was crying for and the guys that run it should be very proud in what they've achieved. Yup! My PSN ID is just below the avatar here on the left Think I'll friend you up on PS4 - I'm sure sooner or later you'll be up on Euro and we're gonna be battling on the same courses
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Post by Andrea on Feb 9, 2016 17:00:00 GMT -5
You're right -49 (I mixed up your scores with Shaun Devlin's I think) BTW I wasn't implying anything fishy on your side, not for a second - I was truly impressed by the performance of such a new player. Not by "the score itself" if you know what I mean (I scored -62 with more than a few silly misses for what is worth ). I didn't know all the story (now I do ). But don't underestimate yourself - I think you'll be ready for WEB (at least) in a couple of weeks. And anyways I too think that @wagtunes with a couple of adjustment to his game will be perfectly capable to pull off that kind of scoring in a course like Spirit Mountain. I'm curious now Wag - were did you struggle this week? Andrea, this week was just a snow ball of a lot of things. 1) Seeing the top sponsor score before even teeing up was discouraging. On my best day there is no way I shoot 14 under. 10 under, maybe. But that's on my best day. I average 7 under per round on this course. 2) Missing putts by literally inches early on began the frustration. 3) A bad drive off the tee (one of only 3 the whole day) cost me 3 strokes that really set me back. That caused me to have to play catch up and with the already existing pressure, that's just no way to play. By round 2, after shooting 2 under round 1, the pressure was totally off because I knew I was already out of it. The rest of the day was simply missing one putt after another by inches. I missed an ace by 10 inches and an eagle by 2 feet. all day it was a case of "close but no cigar." I couldn't buy a birdie putt to save my life. How I even shot 19 under is a miracle considering how many birdies I missed by inches. At least 7 or 8 per round. It was beyond frustrating. However, this tournament was not without its pluses. 1) My new controller has almost completely straightened out my drive. The only reason for the bad shots off the tee were hole 13 where I tried cutting it around the tree too closely to get that extra yardage. That was a strategic mistake that I won't make again. 2) My approach shots were much better on average. I had quite a few within 5 feet. Those were most of my birdies. However, the ones from 10 to 12 feet were the ones I missed by inches. With those going in, today was a whole different story and I'd probably be competing for to 10 again like last week when I finished T10th. 3) I was more relaxed than ever. It was the first time I was confident in my own ability even though I knew I wasn't quite good enough to shoot in the 50s. This will help me in future tournaments. 4) I made some adjustments to how I handle the wind in both judging and playing it and they made a considerable difference. It easily saved me at least 2 or 3 strokes each round or this day would have been an even bigger disaster. All in all, if I can consistently put all this together, I should be okay. I'm definitely better than I was 6 months ago when I was shooting in the 80s and 90s. It's coming. It's just coming slowly. It's mostly a "mind thing" then I think the game will come to you sooner than you'd be expecting and you'll gonna climb up the ranks as you deserve. A tiny bit of advice, if I may. I used to be so nervous too on my official rounds trying to catch X or Y guy on the leaderboard. After a couple of unsatisfying results I started playing my rounds sooner (cause I have the spare time) and/or without looking at the leaderboard or worrying about cuts (in my case). I never use ghosts (I never have - they distract me). Usually by Sunday night I've completed my Euro rounds and I found out that like that, "on my own against the course" I play much better. Then I move onto CC with my CC-buddy on Monday and then I try to play WEB and PGA too. Every week. If I can't I play RRCC Tour (which is tied to this topic ) - a more relaxed tour where there are no promotions/demotions, a leaderboard reset every four weeks, and the events consist in 3 rounds on 3 different courses, instead of the same 4 times. Mixing up all this with a couple of signature courses (like Magnolia) helped my game more (like A TON MORE) than practicing the tourney course over and over. Why? Cause I think, and that's my opinion of course, that playing a lot of different courses instead of one per week slowly gives you a better understanding of a large array of situations, preventing you to panic out of your comfort zone. Of course I still practice the tourney course at least 2 or 3 times to get a feel for the greens (which is key) and I get on the first 5-9 holes just before starting the official rounds to refresh my memory, but broadening my courses-horizons totally made me a much confident player Also the more variety of greens you play the more you'll develop that sort of "automatic-memory" on slopes that than applies to every situation. It just takes time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 17:05:31 GMT -5
-62!!?!! I did see two of those posted so clearly you're one of them! That is an absolutely sensational score and just goes to show how good some people REALLY are. I'm not a new player mate, just new to TGC Tours. Won't go into detail again but I bought the game when it first came out, had a few months on it before selling my console and recently bought another but sadly headed immediately to Q-School without taking into account the changes that had been made to the game over that 12 month period. I've accustomed myself well to the changes but in all honesty, I don't see myself improving much. Watching some of these PGA/Euro players, well they're on another planet. I'd like to aim for Web one day but whether I'm good enough to stay there is another matter. Just being part of the tour is the main thing. It's certainly what the game was crying for and the guys that run it should be very proud in what they've achieved. Yup! My PSN ID is just below the avatar here on the left Think I'll friend you up on PS4 - I'm sure sooner or later you'll be up on Euro and we're gonna be battling on the same courses Honestly, Web at the very best will be as far as (hope) I go sir. I don't have enough time to commit to the game to really improve so I would imagine I'll hit the wall in the next few weeks and then all these other people will be reeling me in! Speaking of the Web, I just finished that tournament in -42 but the gods really are on my side at the minute. I've no idea how many chipped shots I managed to hole (off the green of course! - greens are lightening fast in Rounds 3 & 4) but it must have been a good 7 or 8. Obviously consistency is important but luck really does play a part too. No one shoots incredibly low without a little bit of luck. I'm having my fair share at the minute but it won't last.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 17:25:40 GMT -5
Wags, this may or may not help. But I can totally relate to playing the catch up game, did that for a very long time. It's too stressful and caused me to make many mistakes or take chances that put me in trouble. Now for the last 4 weeks this is my routine. Saturday I avoid the spoiler thread. When I start the tournament (after a quick round to dial out my slice) I avoid looking at the leader board, I spam the A button until I hear John start speaking at the start of the round. I then immediately turn off all ghosts. I then play my round, in between holes when the leader board is shown, I look away, spam the A button until the next hole starts. Thats how I play my entire tournament. I once clicked through the score card but have since learned to catch that. I'm done worrying about what or how others are playing. I go out play my rounds the way I play and seem to do better. I have my own style of play and for better or worse I have to use that to my advantage and not try and adjust my play to way other people play. That's what seems to have helped me anyway. Thanks Tim. I actually prefer to know what I'm up against. That way it gives me something to shoot for and it normally relaxes me. If I see the scores are high, it gives me confidence that I can beat them. If they're low, it takes off the pressure. This was just an odd week because the scores were extremely low. That's what threw me. Next week I'll be fine back in E Class. I have no pressure there other than to just avoid a demotion strike which I know I can do with ease. It may not be much to shoot for, but for me, it's enough.
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Post by mikenym84 on Feb 9, 2016 17:47:18 GMT -5
Wags, this may or may not help. But I can totally relate to playing the catch up game, did that for a very long time. It's too stressful and caused me to make many mistakes or take chances that put me in trouble. Now for the last 4 weeks this is my routine. Saturday I avoid the spoiler thread. When I start the tournament (after a quick round to dial out my slice) I avoid looking at the leader board, I spam the A button until I hear John start speaking at the start of the round. I then immediately turn off all ghosts. I then play my round, in between holes when the leader board is shown, I look away, spam the A button until the next hole starts. Thats how I play my entire tournament. I once clicked through the score card but have since learned to catch that. I'm done worrying about what or how others are playing. I go out play my rounds the way I play and seem to do better. I have my own style of play and for better or worse I have to use that to my advantage and not try and adjust my play to way other people play. That's what seems to have helped me anyway. I've started to do this also. The pressure for me is real on the weekly flight and the results tend to be really really awful. This week I barely looked at the leaderboard and just played my game. I still play with ghost balls though as I feel eerily alone when I'm out on the course without them. Although they can get distracting when I putt.
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Post by meunier33 on Feb 9, 2016 17:52:22 GMT -5
I shot under what I expected to do at -20 but may avoid a strike because the field seems small this week.
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Post by elguapo79 on Feb 9, 2016 18:12:07 GMT -5
--- However, it's kind of too bad that I'm up on C, gonna probably end up at -25 if I'm lucky and get sent BACK to D, while acido will probably be 5-10 strokes better than me, and deserving of moving UP to D with his score. Yeah that is a little sad, but hey on the other hand this shows me how hard it is to move up the ranks. I will have fun in CC-E, too because I can see an improvement in my game and that is the only thing that matters for me. I won't stop trying to move up though. Self-fulfilling prophesy: I ended up -25, thanks to an 8 on a par 4 (hole 15 perhaps?) on round 4. Yeeesh! 61, 68, 59, 67. Up down up down.
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