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Post by hmammoth on Feb 12, 2016 6:34:48 GMT -5
Rejoice people of the web, no time for a match report as I must play my first round in the Irish championship. A pity though as it was a round full of drama, including the worst attempt at shot shaping ever, a round where inches stopped a ace, eagle and birdie, brilliant recovery shots and woeful putts for a final score of three under.
To Chris, maybe a little break is what you need, come back to us fit and raring to go. I understand what you mean by missing out on the cc majors, I to was looking forward to them but progress has been made, and progress will come again. I mean look at Chris Lewis and Dean Huddleston, if he, I mean they can be in the top ten after three rounds and fighting for exception so can we.
To Dean, an official complaint about our match play game will be filed. You were serious trouble on the eight before the rain delay, about to go two down, it's a disgrace we had to replay the eight again, I should have been awarded that hole.
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Post by HeMan1202 on Feb 12, 2016 7:33:06 GMT -5
Im sorry if i cost someone a cut. This will be my second dq so ill also be suspended next week. Maybe a blessing. Gives me time to calm down and decide if I want to continue my time here. I know next weeks course is 4 different courses. So being suspended next week will probably keep me from throwing in the towel. Sorry brother, but I am not sure why everyone is being so nice to you. So you don't like the set up, OK, you're not going to like every one of them. Voice your complaint in a reasonable way for the course selector and move on. Quitting a tourney mid tourney (much less doing it twice) is a d**k move IMO. Just finish and then take a week or two off. FYI, tee boxes and pins are moved all the time per round IRL. Even green speeds are not always the same. Rain softens and slows and heat dries them up, it happens. Sorry it isn't fun for you but reading 10 posts about it isn't fun for me. Finish the f'ing tourney and move on man. I would permanently boot you for doing this sh!t on purpose.
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Post by feng187 on Feb 12, 2016 8:04:13 GMT -5
Im sorry if i cost someone a cut. This will be my second dq so ill also be suspended next week. Maybe a blessing. Gives me time to calm down and decide if I want to continue my time here. I know next weeks course is 4 different courses. So being suspended next week will probably keep me from throwing in the towel. I'm sorry man but tend to agree with HeMan1202 on this one, its not like you really have anything to moan about you are 3 shots off the top 30 and playing a 3rd round setup that most of the field have struggled on so a half decent score will move you up even further, a top 20 is a good result in Web with the quality of the field . I would understand if you were struggling but clearly you are not as you are making cuts here on Web and not finishing out the tournament, I checked your only other tournament on Web that you finished and but for 1 hole where you had an 8 you would have been up with my score and I just missed on an exemption and felt I played very well that week. So if you decide after your suspension that you want to throw in the towel, what does that mean exactly quit the game, or ask for demotion?
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Post by HeMan1202 on Feb 12, 2016 8:25:58 GMT -5
I didnt do it twice iced. I didnt get to tee off last time. Dont like my post? Ignore them. Other wise shut the @!$# up and go jump off a cliff. All you did was take exactly what I said and put it in a negative way. I did voice my complaint in a reasonable way. People responded and so I replied to them. Show me one other post that I have complained about any other thing! Nothing except course conditions changing so drastically from round to round. Im glad to know you dont like my post. Ill try to post more now. Even green speeds change in real life? No sh%$ dumbass, im not a @!$#ing 5 yr old child. This isnt real life. There isnt rain in between rounds or enough heat to firm them up. Its virtual golf, so what can/does happen irl has absolutely nothing to do with what can be done on this game. Heman, go @!$# yourself Wow, angry much?
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Post by naldy89 on Feb 12, 2016 8:57:47 GMT -5
Im confused. Seems like more people complain about the changing conditions then anything. At least that was the case in cc. And i havent seen anyone defend it here either. Of course you cant please everyone with course selection, i think everyone understands that. But, why do the conditions have to change so drastically from day to day? I feel everyone has their right to an opinion, and I don't think you have some crazy/out of right field opinion by any means. Thant being said, I would not go as far as to say that "more people complain about the changing conditions then anything". If you total up the number of players complaining vs. the number of players in the field, it's probably like 2%.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Feb 12, 2016 9:11:35 GMT -5
I do track the complaints and just over 80%! Is courses selected are to easy.
This is the first changing conditions complaint I've had so far.
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Post by superace33 on Feb 12, 2016 10:12:41 GMT -5
Im confused. Seems like more people complain about the changing conditions then anything. At least that was the case in cc. And i havent seen anyone defend it here either. Of course you cant please everyone with course selection, i think everyone understands that. But, why do the conditions have to change so drastically from day to day? It rained Wednesday night hence the soft conditions Thursday. It was a torrential downpour on Friday's round but stopped that afternoon. The course is built on a very sandy plot so it drains incredibly well, mixed with high winds Friday night the course firmed up extremely fast and the greens were rolled and the bedknifes were dropped. They figured scores were getting to low so they let her dry out and sped her up as much as possible. In all honesty though I didn't mean for the greens to be that fast and firm on Saturday's round I wanted it to be a more gradual change for the weekend but I certainly don't think conditions should be the same every day when weather is involved. (I did have it raining on Fridays round)
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Post by nickweis on Feb 12, 2016 11:16:06 GMT -5
Nice comments from the greens keeper there Jordan. I think when HB studios introduces more than 3 firmness settings it will be a relief for designers and course selectors. The difference between medium and firm greens is drastic and there really isn't much anyone can do about it at the moment.
Greens need to be designed to accommodate shot making on firm greens and these ones were.
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Post by jarednich on Feb 12, 2016 12:01:09 GMT -5
The conditions are the same for everybody, aren't they?
My over par round 4 isn't Jordan's fault. It isn't the courses fault. It's the dummy holding the controller's fault.
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Post by hmammoth on Feb 12, 2016 12:14:14 GMT -5
The conditions are the same for everybody, aren't they? My over par round 4 isn't Jordan's fault. It isn't the courses fault. It's the dummy holding the controller's fault. Its staying up half the night playing rocket leagues fault.
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Post by jarednich on Feb 12, 2016 12:46:24 GMT -5
The conditions are the same for everybody, aren't they? My over par round 4 isn't Jordan's fault. It isn't the courses fault. It's the dummy holding the controller's fault. Its staying up half the night poorly playing rocket leagues fault. FIFY
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Post by ErixonStone on Feb 12, 2016 12:57:10 GMT -5
It's very strange to go from playing super soft and then super firm on the same course. Courses that tend to be soft, play to medium firmness on even the driest of days. Courses that tend to play firm only soften up so much, even after heavy rain.
Same thing with green speeds. I wouldn't expect the same course to go from 101 putt distance to 187, even over the course of four days.
The course conditions don't have to be the same across 4 days, but the changes shouldn't be so significant that the course is completely different from Friday to Saturday.
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Post by Slymas on Feb 12, 2016 13:07:13 GMT -5
Im sorry if i cost someone a cut. This will be my second dq so ill also be suspended next week. Maybe a blessing. Gives me time to calm down and decide if I want to continue my time here. I know next weeks course is 4 different courses. So being suspended next week will probably keep me from throwing in the towel. Sorry brother, but I am not sure why everyone is being so nice to you. So you don't like the set up, OK, you're not going to like every one of them. Voice your complaint in a reasonable way for the course selector and move on. Quitting a tourney mid tourney (much less doing it twice) is a d**k move IMO. Just finish and then take a week or two off. FYI, tee boxes and pins are moved all the time per round IRL. Even green speeds are not always the same. Rain softens and slows and heat dries them up, it happens. Sorry it isn't fun for you but reading 10 posts about it isn't fun for me. Finish the f'ing tourney and move on man. I would permanently boot you for doing this sh!t on purpose. I would have to agree it is poor form to just DQ your selve. You obviously have the skill to play in Web, so what if some weeks you don't like the tour. I used to play counter strike professionally and I wouldn't dropped out because of a map I didn't like. Bud just play it out and finish you could get a top 30 or 20 with what you have so far to me that is a good week in my books.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Feb 12, 2016 13:35:38 GMT -5
Some topical music to sooth the mood
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Post by bigtallchris on Feb 12, 2016 13:46:29 GMT -5
My two cents:
I like the changing conditions, it's more realistic. But I do agree that they shouldn't change so drastically throughout a tournament, which moves away from realism.
Looking at the current leaderboard, I am realizing that not knowing about the slooooow green speeds for the first couple of holes in round two (and the 2 or 3 extra putts because of it) is going to cost me an exemption. But while I'm very disheartened/disappointed/dismayed by that, I'm over it and OK with it and have learned a new tip along the way that has already made my game a bit better.
As has been said many times, we all play the same course and conditions, so all's fair in firmness and winds!
I also agree that quitting (not because of personal reasons) halfway through a tourney AFTER MAKING THE CUT, is a d!(k move. You made the cut!!! What's the problem??? Are you a member of the "participation trophy" generation and get all butthurt whenever you do something and don't get an award for it? I've played 17 tourneys on the Web tour now and have only made 35% of the cuts, missing many of them by only one stroke.....but you don't hear me whining. I love the tougher competition, it's made me a better player, and now I'm within striking distance of the top-10 for this tourney (although I know a couple of double-bogeys in round 4 hurt me too much).
I really have no idea what Chris (the "csabo17" guy, not me) is whining about, and I see that many of the posts of his that others have quoted are now gone. So, he must've deleted them. Just finish out the tourney (especially if you make the cut!), state that you don't like the changing conditions, and move on.
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