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Post by davelzi7 on Oct 15, 2015 19:22:48 GMT -5
I just checked the member numbers of all the challenge circuit flights and CC-E has twice as many as any of the others.(630) In other words, in CC-E you are competing against twice as many players as any of the the other flights. Create a CC-F and put the bottom half of CC-E into it. This way all the flights would be approximately 250 to 350 players keeping things more even.
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Post by hmammoth on Oct 15, 2015 19:28:14 GMT -5
Because this weeks event was auto register, everyone, even inactive players were registered. Next tournament when you have to register manually will see all the inactive plays taken out of the player list and you should see things back to normal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 19:48:38 GMT -5
To expand on Daniel's thought...
CC-E, like the rest of the CC tiers, is made up of a massive percentage of inactive players who likely played a few weeks give or take and then gave up or play just here and there inconsistently. Web.com also has a large number of inactives as all players who were inactiv on PGA, Euro, and Web at the end of season one were put into Web.com.
If you look at the actual number of players who submitted scores, it breaks down like this:
PGA = 144 scores submitted out of 188 card holders. (76.6%) Euro = 113 scores submitted out of 148 card holders. (76.4%)
Web = 132 scores submitted out of 363 card holders. (36.4%)
CC-A = 47 scores submitted out of 168 card holders. (28.0%) CC-B = 75 scores submitted out of 288 card holders. (26.0%) CC-C = 95 scores submitted out of 293 card holders. (32.4%) CC-D = 126 scores submitted out of 369 card holders. (34.1%) CC-E = 125 scores submitted out of 631 card holders. (19.8%) CC-Z = 25 scores submitted out of 133 card holders. (18.8%)
So if you notice, there is not any regular tour right now who has more than 144 scores entered. The CC tiers will continue to rise a small bit, as I don't think they have a Thursday night deadline to post two rounds (maybe they do, I can't remember). But after midnight EST tonight, the PGA, Euro, and Web will have a cut line cut down the fields.
The True Sim actually has the most plays (189 out of 300 members) or 63.0%.
Like Daniel mentioned, after this week, only those that registered for a tournament will show in the field.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Oct 15, 2015 22:55:03 GMT -5
I just checked the member numbers of all the challenge circuit flights and CC-E has twice as many as any of the others.(630) In other words, in CC-E you are competing against twice as many players as any of the the other flights. Create a CC-F and put the bottom half of CC-E into it. This way all the flights would be approximately 250 to 350 players keeping things more even. I'd love to compete in a division where under 20% of the registered players actually compete. Don't be thrown off by the player's list...the registered scores is what matters and CC-E is the lowest right now out of any tier other than CC-Z. By the way....Daniel...loving the new signature...looks sweet.
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Post by davelzi7 on Oct 16, 2015 19:38:21 GMT -5
Understood. Thanks for the replies guys.
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Post by unclefester75 on Oct 19, 2015 20:40:23 GMT -5
To me, there is no skill difference between CCA and CCD.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Oct 19, 2015 23:28:02 GMT -5
To me, there is no skill difference between CCA and CCD. In the top 10 players of the tier you are not far from the truth. On any given week the top players in D can run with the top to mid players in A, but the separation is from the top down to the 70 cut line for demotion strikes. If you look at where the cut lines for those strikes are traditionally in D as compared to A, average players in D just wouldn't compete. It's a fine line and I think the crew here does an excellent job with promotions and exemptions to reward good play. The system for the most part works..that's why you won't see any drastic changes. You can vault through the tiers with hard work....trust me...but you have to be committed to getting better at the game in order to succeed.
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Post by Doyley on Oct 19, 2015 23:32:55 GMT -5
To me, there is no skill difference between CCA and CCD. Keep in mind in the last week of season 1 we skimmed the best of the best off each flight into the Web.com - so it left a lot of the flights remaining top players at approximately the same skill level. It'll work itself out in time.
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Post by coggin66 on Oct 25, 2015 4:39:49 GMT -5
To me, there is no skill difference between CCA and CCD. I agree that there is little difference between the bulk of the players in these divisions. This week (S2W2) the CCE winner beat everyone. After a couple of months of playing I'm firmly entrenched in the mid-pack of CCD. I shot a solid -26 this week and came 50th out of 126. My score would have put me 53rd (out of 88) in CCC, 45th (out of 71) in CCB and 44th (out of 53) in CCA (plus I came 52nd out of the 150+ in the True Sim).I know that is a steadily lower percentile in each tier but it doesn't seem as big a variation as it should be if the promotion / relegation system is working properly. If we are all similar in standard and we don't have cuts in CC, why bother with pooling us into the different tiers?
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Post by JV17 on Oct 25, 2015 15:41:30 GMT -5
Doyley is of course right... Give it 3 weeks... The cream will have risen to A, and the folks struggling will have dropped down.
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Post by canthitstraight on Oct 25, 2015 19:01:51 GMT -5
To me, there is no skill difference between CCA and CCD. I agree that there is little difference between the bulk of the players in these divisions. This week (S2W2) the CCE winner beat everyone. After a couple of months of playing I'm firmly entrenched in the mid-pack of CCD. I shot a solid -26 this week and came 50th out of 126. My score would have put me 53rd (out of 88) in CCC, 45th (out of 71) in CCB and 44th (out of 53) in CCA (plus I came 52nd out of the 150+ in the True Sim).I know that is a steadily lower percentile in each tier but it doesn't seem as big a variation as it should be if the promotion / relegation system is working properly. If we are all similar in standard and we don't have cuts in CC, why bother with pooling us into the different tiers? With the relaxing of promotion rules, it is just a matter of time before it works itself out. Before the tenth week, CCA will be as well populated as CCD
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