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Post by CongoGB on Sept 19, 2015 2:12:43 GMT -5
Really didn't expect to place as high as I am - very pleased!
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Post by ed68bogus on Sept 19, 2015 2:47:51 GMT -5
Really didn't expect to place as high as I am - very pleased! Played your ghost as usual Gary, when you started round one birdie, birdie, birdie I sensed this course suited you. Glad to see you kept it steady from then on in and didn't have your signature round 3/4 collapse to let me in. Seriously well played on this course, hats off mate....
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 19, 2015 6:15:24 GMT -5
It is almost like Bradley really really really wanted to win this tournament or something. Talk about overkill.
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Post by silap on Sept 19, 2015 10:02:58 GMT -5
Congratz Bradley excellent play. I think this means we really have a final on our hands next week. Whoohoo!!
If my calculations are correct than; if either Bradley or Ian wins the DP World Tour Championship, he will win the whole shebang even if the other comes in solo 2nd.
Good luck guys!!
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Post by Alexander Salvator on Sept 19, 2015 15:30:43 GMT -5
Seems to be my best tournament ever with a T6 at -12. Still hated every minute playing this course. biggins, you already designed some great courses. This one just isn`t. You can argue what you tried to achieve with this course and for what purpose it was designed. But just look at the ratings: Round 4 got an avg. rating of 5.2 (I think it was the sunday course). 5.2 ! That says it all. To argue against that is like a company trying to convince its costumers that a poorly received product is just great and the costumers simply do not understand it. But the costumer is always right. With no wind, softer greens the golf course maybe is ok. I still doubt it would be fun to play. But with these winds and firm greens it is defintely tricked up. You refered to the green of a scottish golf course. Ok. But please show me a golf course with 18 greens like on this course and the same tricked up pin positions you chose. @ Bradley: Wow, just wow.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 19, 2015 16:15:00 GMT -5
Aren't many links golf courses have SLOW SLOW SLOW greens?
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Post by edi_vedder on Sept 19, 2015 18:25:08 GMT -5
Mr. Garcia... thank you for make me feel lika a simpleton! -32, are you serious? I'm 31 strokes behind, that definitely hurts! Awesome score! Kudos!
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Sept 20, 2015 1:35:59 GMT -5
Congratulations Brad G, VWP indeed bud, brilliant, and well played all who competed.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Sept 20, 2015 4:46:20 GMT -5
4th place and 17 shots behind the winner. Gotta laugh
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Post by Roosroan on Sept 20, 2015 5:37:15 GMT -5
Congrats to Bradley. This guy is good.
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Post by biggins on Sept 27, 2015 4:19:05 GMT -5
Seems to be my best tournament ever with a T6 at -12. Still hated every minute playing this course. biggins, you already designed some great courses. This one just isn`t. You can argue what you tried to achieve with this course and for what purpose it was designed. But just look at the ratings: Round 4 got an avg. rating of 5.2 (I think it was the sunday course). 5.2 ! That says it all. To argue against that is like a company trying to convince its costumers that a poorly received product is just great and the costumers simply do not understand it. But the costumer is always right. With no wind, softer greens the golf course maybe is ok. I still doubt it would be fun to play. But with these winds and firm greens it is defintely tricked up. You refered to the green of a scottish golf course. Ok. But please show me a golf course with 18 greens like on this course and the same tricked up pin positions you chose. @ Bradley: Wow, just wow. That analogy isn't quite right. It'd be more like a 28 handicapper playing the Championship tees on a course much too difficult for them. Twelve under sounds about right for T6th. Now, would you mind explaining what you mean by 'tricked up'? You refer to the winds and the firm greens but this doesn't really tell us anything. The approaches to the greens are designed with the firm greens in mind - like many links courses worldwide. The pin positions aren't 'tricked up'. They're just in tough positions. Are they tougher than in real life? Probably. But then how often do tour players throw darts at certain areas of greens? To make the course tougher, the pins need to be tougher. I think that players generally play the game with a sense of disappointment when they fail to birdie every hole and this tends to manifest itself as frustration at the course. 'Tricked up', doesn't really mean anything. As far as I can make out, it tends to mean whatever the player considers too difficult for his skill level.
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Post by mcbogga on Sept 27, 2015 5:02:42 GMT -5
I enjoyed the challenge. Would much rather play this type of course every week than any -60 birdie-fests. Just not resembling golf at all and leave a bad taste.
Brad showed that this course was very much manageable - just at a skil level most of us do not possess. I stand corrected in earlier comments.
My definintion of a tricked up course is one that treats good shots and poor shots the same - or one where there is a very signifikant luck element. In one way the game is tricked up with a shot difficulty that generally does not make a difference between great, good and so-so execution. The birdie-fest courses are also tricked up - as they present the same result (birdie) to both great and mediocre shots.
This course - IMO - balances on the line, but Brad showed that in fact great play is rewarded.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 15:54:14 GMT -5
Just to add, I very much 'do' know how to setup a course. I imagine I'm one of few who has genuine experience in that area. Also I do not accept that this is 'tricked up'. You have options on the tee. Some of them are pretty straightforward if you want your par. There are 'right' sides of fairways, and there are times when a shorter shot would benefit. And, yes, there are some killer pin positions. If you feel agitated that you've managed to overcook a putt and you've rolled off the back of the green then you'll appreciate how it feels for the pros when they do them same thing. I'd be interested to see what the GIR stats are for those that are complaining that the greens aren't holding and compare that to some of The Opens over the years. Muirfield - 2013 Open GIR: 60.5% Royal Balwearie - 2015 BMW Masters GiR: 56.4% From what I remember Muirfield was a beast that year being too firm and players moaning, sound similar? Haha. I'll have to find some more data for other events.
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Post by mcbogga on Dec 1, 2015 6:00:09 GMT -5
Muirfield - 2013 Open
Winning Score: -3 10th place: +3
Royal Balwearie - 2015 BMW Masters
Winning score: -32 10th place: -10
(In a reduced field)
#losethegridalready #nomoreinstasaves
;-)
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